Beffums

Congrats! Now you get to add to the insanity of the others, as they all realize "it really IS there!!!!!" (ah, the bliss of living far enough away to not be able to really search for it). so, does this mean you'll soon be taunting the others? oops, I meant encouraging them?

Congrats!!!!!

I think this is an historic event. To the best of my knowledge, this is the first appeal brought to the forums that has ever been granted. I will admit to quite honestly believing that the whole "take it to the forums" thing was just pro forma to brush people off. I am quite pleased to have been proven wrong. my faith is being restored -- yay!! and, congrats azbliss. maybe on a trip home to PA I'll be able to swing by and find this one someday.

what about to see how many different *types* of caches it can find? micro vs 20-gallon tub. puzzle vs ammo can under a fallen log. virtual vs earthcache. etc etc. Just because a TB can't fit into a cache doesn't mean it can't sit within a foot or two of it -- close enough for a picture (and most cachers can be intelligent enough to take a pic that isn't a spoiler). Alternatively, you could designate "home" caches. So, for my travel bugs, once they finish their "race" this year to find mittens, the three little kittens will be racing back to their home caches. Elemental will be aiming for Elemental's Escape (here in Evansville), Xander will head to Xander's Hideout, and Sweet Bambina to Baby's Pad. You could pick out 5 caches around the state for each TB, and see which one makes it to the most of their 5 (or 10 or however many you pick) Um, other options... you could do something like This is travel bug "N" -- he is searching for a cache beginning with the letter N in every county in Indiana. This is travel bug "O" -- he is searching for ... (don't pick Q or X, you get the idea - A or T might also be bad, since there are too many caches that start with them "A ___", "The ___") lemme think some more...

just in case, if anyone else is as lost as to where each county might be as I am/was (hey, we've only lived in this state for 6 months), the state has a pretty map (non-colorable) at map of indiana the colorable page doesn't give you a template to fill in, just a list of county names to click on.

Mine now to just figure out what counties we've found caches in... it was a lot easier to figure out what states we'd done!

FYI Deermark, if you're uncertain between the 11th or the 18th of March, U of E and USI are both on spring break on the 11th. Beffums was thinking about having a similar event on either the 11th or the 4th at USI in order to decrease the number of muggles around and depending on interest and when people could make it. We'd both also love to go on the next trail mix... As for improving the next trailmix, how about jetdryers in front of us to dry up the mud! yeah, but I can always hold on mine until after Spring semester ends -- Deermark's sounds much more interesting than my idea.

FYI Deermark, if you're uncertain between the 11th or the 18th of March, U of E and USI are both on spring break on the 11th. Beffums was thinking about having a similar event on either the 11th or the 4th at USI in order to decrease the number of muggles around and depending on interest and when people could make it. We'd both also love to go on the next trail mix... As for improving the next trailmix, how about jetdryers in front of us to dry up the mud! yeah, but I can always hold on mine until after Spring semester ends -- Deermark's sounds much more interesting than my idea.

ok, since I whined, and she replied, I must say THANKS MAMA JANE!!!!!!! (and soccerboy and bballgirl!!!) we couldn't get to all your new caches today - we didn't leave Evansville until after dusk, so the cemeteries were out by the time we reached Patoka. But, thanks thanks thanks thanks. we didn't have to drive to Kentucky to go geocaching! woot!

actually, the honey wasn't a tb, and doesn't have an owner for it. it just has a piece of paper saying it's trying to get to Florida. no geo-name or real name. no tracking number. I was sort of at a loss on it.

congrats!

I'm going to guess that the consensus is that we should feel free to go ahead and just chuck it in the trash? (I kinda had the same response to a jar of honey in the woods... Ammo cans are NOT air tight after all!)

HUH????? Wulf hmm, either you hadn't been following the thread where your avatar won, or there are two team tigger internationals, OR, you can't relate it to caching in indiana. I'll guess it's the third. SO, see, I figured, you'd be using the hiking skick when you would go out caching, in Indiana -- see, it fits, right? Just never figured I'd find out about it here first.<g> Look for it make the rounds of the events we attend. Maybe we'll borrow Son of Cyclop's idea and make it a TB. Wulf oh - sorry to spoil the surprise! oops but still, congrats!

HUH????? Wulf hmm, either you hadn't been following the thread where your avatar won, or there are two team tigger internationals, OR, you can't relate it to caching in indiana. I'll guess it's the third. SO, see, I figured, you'd be using the hiking skick when you would go out caching, in Indiana -- see, it fits, right?

Ok, this is carrying over from a different thread in the forums, but it does have to do with caching in Indiana -- congratulations to Team Tigger for winning one of the top avatar sticks -- they look amazing! (maybe we'll meet at an event for caching in indiana in the future, and I'll get to see it some day)

I hope that this isn't taking this too far afield. But, if any reviewers could chime in -- could you also let us know if there are some errors that are only really common for specific TYPES of caches? (the obvious one is forgetting to give coords for all stages of a multi, but I'm just wondering, before I ever try to place anything beyond a traditional or a multi, if there's a major one for CITO's, or for Mystery caches, or for _____ that we chould be aware of before we try to place the cache). if this is straying too far off topic, I apologize up front

maybe, but does anyone know if the discussion in the forums actually resulted in the cache being approved as it was? it's weird that after the very public discussion of the whys and why nots of the cache, now all of us that don't live wherever that cache will one day (hopefully) be will never know the outcome. and we have too little info to try to continuously keep searching for new listings to see if it's appeared. (or else we'd have to admit to having WAY too much time on our hands) one of the OP's (of that thread) last post kinda hit the point - it's like reading 755 pages of an 800 page novel. (ok, that's just kinda sorta close to what they said, but I didn't have their quote handy - you get the idea)

much better - thanks!

Actually, I have been wondering the same thing, as we found a jar of honey, wrapped in lots of plastic, but honey nonetheless, in an ammo can. we pulled it, but I haven't chucked it yet, in case I shouldn't. it's not an "official" TB, but does have a travel goal, etc etc edit: oops, I also had missed the TB # - sorry

I think that's a perfectly valid idea for a cache. I think the original issue was caches that are OVER-filled with tracts. Caches that are OVERfilled with any one item are a problem (maybe with the exceptions of seed caches and ones filled with CITO kits, but I'm betting that someone is offended even by these). I believe that most cache owners hope for some level of variety in their caches, even if it's a theme cache. As such, if there are so many pieces of one thing that you can't fit in a new item, trade out, and discretely dispose of the item later if you do not want it. Don't trash all of what's in there, but I think it is ok, if you open a cache, and it has 100 of the same pamphlet, to say that 3 or 4 would be plenty to leave behind. as to the original question - you are not alone. I've also found caches that are filled to the brim all with a pamphlet promoting something. Some were religious, some were not. My decision on what to do varied. If I wanted to leave something in the cache, and it fit, I generally left it all there. If there was so much that I couldn't close the cache without removing some, I removed some (even if I didn't trade in. what's the value of a cache left open to the elements?). I've never removed all, but that is your decision (how many are "equal" in value to what you left in trade?) I've yet to come across a cache where the pamphlets were wet, etc, but in that case, I would remove all as trash, as I would any items in any cache that had been destroyed by the elements. Then again, even in that case, I'd probably try to leave some trade items in return. (then again, my logs are often the "took nothing, left ___" variety)

I upgraded and they're still not showing. hmmm.

and, in the defense of the Indiana reviewer, JAPTKD and I have been on a cache placing binge this month, so he's had at least 20 caches to review already, just from what we've placed. The first 15, all approved in 5 hours or less. I panicked when the last 5 took about 36 hours or so, but he got to them. Your time will come. (I PROMISE, we put out no new caches today. I PROMISE!!!) I know, you are sitting there thinking you've lost favor. you missed a tiny sign denoting change of land ownership or some other such thing. But, likely, he's just busy. He's generally really really effecient, so I figure we can't complain if every once in a while it takes him more than 45 minutes to find our new postings and approve them who knows - maybe he actually found time to go find a cache or two himself!

I thought the font was actually larger, and overall, I really like it. The only problem I have is that there seems to be a bit of a bug, at least with my account. Most of the time when I click on a profile, I do not get tabs at the top to switch the pages (they're there, and I can click and switch things, but they are just a line, with no words, and are hard to highlight). It's happened on three computers when logged in on my account. JAPTKD (my hubby) has checked the same profiles with his account and not had it happen. (note: I do not think the computer is uot to get me. I figure mine is just one of several accounts hitting the glitch). but overall, I give the changes a thumbs up. maybe you can reset preferences within your software to increase font size for your main computer? edit: to clarify, I figure bugs are always part of the process when making software changes; but also that they likely don't get fixed if TPTB don't know about them

ok, this will be going slightly off topic (I'm an Indiana cacher), but this "problem" affects all areas I believe. One of the most amusing caches in our area is Do NOT find this cache there are versions of this all over, but that's the one up our way. One thing I noticed was that after it was placed (and after a few of us found it), the logs on other caches got a bit longer. maybe there IS a point to wally world micros... good luck getting a sentence or more out of your finders.

If you just are really into extreme caches, this one is not *that* far away, and from what I've been told (friends have found it), it's a WOW cache. Earth, Wind, Fire, Water (aka GCJJTP) note: it requires a partner for at least one stage, unless you are a very, VERY advanced climber. enjoy the trip - Chapel Hill is great!