georgeandmary

A waterfall. george Wanna go for a ride?

quote:Originally posted by Jomarac5: quote: georgeandmary wrote:What you should do is leave a note in the cache that explains Jomarac's solution. Georgy, Georgy, Georgy, If you had half the brain that you were born with you'd realize that the 2oldfarts' cache was plundered -- not degraded by poor trading practices, hence my comments about a solution don't work in this case -- you see, the person(s) who did this are no longer there and are most likely never to return. Well, in that case, write "Don't plunder me." On the lid and that will fix the problem. george Wanna go for a ride?

quote:Originally posted by 2oldfarts (the rockhounders): I'm open to suggestions! What you should do is leave a note in the cache that explains Jomarac's solution. quote: If people were to trade with a concience this problem would probably go away. Yes, there is bound to be a certain amount of degradation of all caches but the idea here is to slow it down so that the fifth person to a cache doesn't end up with a box of worthless broken junk. That way, when someone finds the cache, they'll know that it's wrong to trade down. It's obvious that most people did not realize that to begin with. george Wanna go for a ride?

quote:Originally posted by Jomarac5:logscaler asked the following questions: _1) What is your answer to the problem?_ It's really a common sense issue -- obviously, leaving cigarettes or bottle caps or a used spoon is not appropriate and those that leave such items need to realize that this is doing nothing to enhance the sport. If people were to trade with a concience this problem would probably go away. Yes, there is bound to be a certain amount of degradation of all caches but the idea here is to slow it down so that the fifth person to a cache doesn't end up with a box of worthless broken junk. Let it now be know that the problem has now been solved. Let all future threads be markwelled to this simple solution. Why didn't someone think of it before? george Wanna go for a ride?

quote:Originally posted by Jomarac5: If you don't have something of value to offer the discussion, then why say anything at all? ***** The most valuable thing to take away from this thread is that caches get traded down so don't let that ruin the experience. What more do you want. george Wanna go for a ride?

Here are some facts about geocaching that are never going to change. Caches get traded down. Page descriptions often don't tell everything. Complaining about either is a waste of time. Considering that a small portion of geocachers that actually participate on the forum, you're not going to reach enough people to change the situation. Now, you can either go through each cache adventure with the eminent doom of crappy contents, or enjoy the the experience in it's simplest forms. It's an easter egg hunt. I appreciate it when someone hides a cache, any cache. I don't disparage them when they don't leave stuff thats 'good enough' for me. Thank you to all you cache hiders. A simple film cannister with a note is enough for me. Anything more is a bonus. Now, if you've found this sport, and you've come to the conclusion that you don't like caches with junk in them, and you don't like caches that are harder than the page describes then you're in trouble. It's like taking up golf and complaining the tall grass on the edges. It's part of the sport that isn't going away. Your only other solution is to hunt new 1/1 caches that have been well stocked and say so on the page... but then again.. it just may be full of junk. george Wanna go for a ride?

quote:Originally posted by L.O.S.T.hoomdorm:I don't consider putting my life in danger because someone failed to clearly state the risks in the cache page the start of a great adventure. Maybe you should take all those golfballs you've been collecting and pick a safer sport. Under you list of complaints you have 1) The cache was harder than described and 2) the cache was not full of good stuff. Fore!!!! george Wanna go for a ride?

quote:I did a 3/4 cache yesterday, actually underrated. Had been trying to get to this one since February. I knew you had to likely cross some water but the cache description said nothing else. Ended up that the water was a very swiftly moving inlet flowing into the ocean. Most places were over my head but in a RARE FEW you could touch bottom but with your feet sinking way into the sand & making walking quite difficult, especially with the current. So anyway, yesterday I finally manage to get across the water! Woohoo, so excited, this cache must be great, right? Well, I'm only the second finder & was disappointed to say the least when I opened it to find a sucker, a worn out paper book of matches, an old lighter, a very worn out golf ball, a dirty coming apart tiny stuffed toy, a free keychain & an opened box of wire connectors. Here is what I would consider the start of a great adventure and you let the contents of the cache ruin it for you. I don't even remeber what is the boxes I find, I remember what it took to get there. quote: Funny, since you don't know me it's interesting that you can tell me how I will one day feel. I guess I'm under the assumption that one day you can enjoy the trip and not the trinkets. I may be wrong, maybe you'll never just find the joy in the trip. Be prepared for much disapointment. george Wanna go for a ride?

quote: Some people have to quit like they're so high & mighty because they are just in it for the hunt. quote: What gets me is the same old group of folks who reply over and over about how they only care about the find & not what's in it. Well great! So quit posting about it & let others who care about what's in a cache discuss it. What really get's me is people explaining that they walk away from a cache disapointed because there wasn't a treasure chest inside. Once you've been around long enough to see how many times this thread has come and gone you can start to let the trinket fetish go. Once you can reach that point you'll never walk away disapointed because of the contents. One of us is living in a world of disapointment. It's not me. Caches get traded down. (period) george Wanna go for a ride?

You know, I could really care less what is in the cache. It can be filled with golf balls, or gold bricks. I'm not in this for the trinkets and I kind of wonder about those who are. The log book is what I look for. george Wanna go for a ride?

I clip mine to the back of my camelbak so that it's got a clear view of the sky. I don't want to be tempted to look at the screen while rolling down the trail and if the bike and I part ways it's more likely to suffer damage strapped to my bike than to me. george Wanna go for a ride?

quote:Originally posted by Duelly:I thought of another ? for you guys. Any of you CVCers run or use WiFi? Post the coordinates. george Wanna go for a ride?

No comment on the article, but I don have one on the photo... What's that white stuff all over the ground and around the cache? Is it dangerous? george Wanna go for a ride?

I call them micros and describe them as necessary on the cache page. george Wanna go for a ride?

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quote:Originally posted by Marky: I think I saw ClayJar mention that he was thinking about a palm version of watcher. drool drool drool drool george Wanna go for a ride?

that's what we need, a pure gpx viewer for the palms. It really would simplify much of this stuff. george Wanna go for a ride?

I might be able to help you out here. I was planning a new cache near an I-5 exit about 90 miles south of Sacramento, Patterson exit. It wouldn't take long to get up north from there but if you want to drop it off further north, I can't help you. george Wanna go for a ride?

quote:Originally posted by flask:i also expect 13 year old boys to think fart jokes are very funny. At exactly what age do guys stop thinking fart jokes are funny? I'm closing in on 33 and there's nothing like a good fart joke.... unless it's a good fart. george Wanna go for a ride?

I went back and looked at my profile for climbing that day and it was only 6000 ft. Oh well. The high altitiude one kind of scares me. I'm sitting here watching a National Geographic show on people going to Nepal and getting altitude sickness. I haven't done much hiking above 9000 ft so going 11000 is kind of spooky. I wanted to do a deep hike into Emigrant Wilderness last summer but my hiking parter never materialized. It's a wilderness area so bike are a no no so I'd have too hoof it. Chuguy went in and hid a bunch more caches along his route. Dang that Chuguy. Thirteen miles in and 13 miles out. I'm not used to walking that far. I'd have to spend the night. http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=32867 Now there are 4 caches on the trail. george Wanna go for a ride?

I often write down what a take and leave.. it's simple......tnln. On the rare occasion that I do trade i try to mention it but don't often list what it was. george Wanna go for a ride?

Do you feel guilty about it? I know I'm lessening the server load by spending less and less time on the site... that's a good thing. But somehow I feels strange that going to the actual web site is becoming less necessary as more time goes on. Now when personal maps return, I may find my self returning.. but I can do all that off line also. george Wanna go for a ride?

Ever since I've had all the .gpx files available using the pocket querries and all the .gpx software that is available now I've been spending less and less time on the actuall web site. I used to spend hours going through cache listing and finding the next closest caches in our areas and I just don't need to any longer. I still spend a lot of time on the forum but not on www.geocaching.com proper. Now if you could just find a way to automatically log my finds through some palm software... just sync and boom.. Everything logged. george Wanna go for a ride?

Ugh. I'm worn out. 25 miles in Henry Coe 7000+ ft of climbing 5 caches found 1 ftf 1 dnf 1 cache hidden 1 person crashing hard 1 pretty waterfall those are some good numbers. george Wanna go for a ride?

What every you do, don't pull the classic newbie hide and place the cache in a patch of ivy. There are more creative ways to make a cache difficult to find than ivy. It's not fun to look through and often results in the ivy getting torn up. george Wanna go for a ride?