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What do you define as a "long time"? B. A cache that hasn't been logged since 01/01/10 What makes that a magic date?

Ummmm... that was said. And early-on. And that was done. To no avail. The CO basically told the OP to take a long hike off a short dock.

Wow! I haven't even seen a Decon container for maybe five years, at least. I don't think many of our hiders go to Army surplus stores for their containers anymore, since ammo cans have become too expensive.

he said he stumbled upon it a week ago and didn't know what it was. His wife told him it was a geocache and that he was supposed to "move" it for someone else to find. At least they thought they were helping.

So... was that the correct answer? :ph34r: (nevermind... I was answered in the very next post. Rats!) Nope! It wasn't the right answer. I dunno... he sounds like he knows what he's talking about. Are you sure you're not the one with the wrong answer?

Of course. Sometimes it is fun to have a difficult to find cache! That's why we have D5 ratings. Not on every cache, but sometimes people really enjoy being challenged to the extreme. Nothing wrong with that.

Are you aware of the Lonely Cache filter on Project-GC.com? http://project-gc.com/Statistics/LonelyCaches

I like KB. He's a really nice guy. But... I wouldn't call most of his caches I found "well maintained". He does, to his credit, do regular maintenance runs on schedule. However, this means it can take weeks, months, a year, or more for some caches to get repaired/replaced containers (to fix the cracked and leaky margarine container), wet mush of a logbook fixed, rough coordinates adjusted, or checking on placements so that it is still hidden in the manner he intended (hint and description accurate, etc.). But I do like the guy. I just can't abide thinking that 4000-8000 caches are actually maintainable, no matter how you spend a retired life. Not only do I totally agree with you, but I don't think you would find anybody in Minnesota to disagree with you. I didn't know there were that many cookie tins in the entire world until I started finding KB caches!

Crown King of micro spew. Agreed.

Huh? No way!! That totally, and I do mean totally, depends on the individual. It depends on how much time they have to dedicate to cache maintenance (as opposed to cache finding), it has to do with the quality of container they use, it has to do with a good many things. I'm not sure how many active hides I have out right now, but I have placed 150 caches in my years as a geocacher, and a good deal of them are still active. A good many of those are what you called "individual/quality/scenic caches" (my hides) Other people shouldn't even own one hide.

Amen! Thank you for that.

Sounds like bribes to get people to find his cache.

Until they are replaced by robots, reviewers will never be 100% consistent. For that matter, I'm not sure about the robots. Firmware and software updates, new versions, etc will probably cause them to disagree with each other at times, too. Even our courts are not consistent. That is why we have appeals. I will agree that some reviewers seem to have their own personal guidelines that are not shared by other reviewers. That I wish they would not allow. But when it comes to judgement calls, each person is going to be different. Oh, and GZ should be as close as possible.

I just wanna add that not all dogs are reviewers. Just in case anybody was wondering.

A friend had a cache that was actually a fake bottom to an outdoor water fountain. He had attached a piece of velcro to that fake bottom (in plain view) and a lot of people posted DNFs and NMs because of it. The cache was there all along!

OMG! That must be tough for you to hear!

Of course you don't have to recheck logs; no one suggested that you must as that is totally up to you. However, if I was promised a longer log by someone claiming a find in the field, I would, out of courtesy (and interest of course) check for a longer log that would describe, in more depth, their caching experience. It is nice, and convenient for me, that Project Geocaching does that for me by sending a notification when someone has edited their log. And for just how long am I supposed to keep checking for this longer, improved log? And how often? I have a lot of caches out there. That's a lot of checking. "More later" logs suck. I can at least understand them a teensy bit when it comes to FTFs, but in any other case, there is no reason for them at all. Wait until you can write the final log.

Yeah yeah...we got it. You certainly do seem to enjoy saying that...almost as much as Clan Riffster enjoyed commenting on Rosie O'Donnell's posterior. And Toz referred to puritans and panties.

<snip> ... And cache owners don't get notifications for edits. Project Geocaching provides notification of log updates. Nice, but irrelevant until Groundspeak provides them. You can't expect every cache owner to even be aware of Project Geocaching, much less use it. "More later" is another wrong way of logging. Geocaching.com does provide you with the tool to see any changes to the logs (if you feel that is important) - go back and re-read the logs where a finder has promised a more detailed log later. Yeah, right. Isn't enough that I hid the cache and maintain it, without having to check up on each one to see if any of the logs have been edited?

From the Hiding Your First Geocache page: Step 3 - Placing Your Cache Once you arrive at the location of your hide, it is critical to obtain accurate GPS coordinates. This is the very heart of the activity, after all. And from the guidelines themselves: Listing Guidelines for All Geocaches Technical Requirements Listings must contain accurate GPS coordinates. You must visit the cache location and obtain the coordinates with a GPS device. GPS usage is an integral and essential element of both hiding and seeking caches and must be demonstrated for all cache submissions. Projecting waypoints from a specific location already defined by set of coordinates is permissible. For geocaches that include additional waypoints see the guidelines specific to those cache types. (bolding is mine)

Not seeing much in the way of "FTF prizes" these days. They used to be more common. My personal preference is... please don't encourage the FTF race further by providing "prizes".

<snip> ... And cache owners don't get notifications for edits. Project Geocaching provides notification of log updates. Nice, but irrelevant until Groundspeak provides them. You can't expect every cache owner to even be aware of Project Geocaching, much less use it. "More later" is another wrong way of logging.

That depends, really. I've seen plenty of folks who are able to churn out descriptive and/or entertaining logs in short order. Folks with a lot higher numbers than myself. It's in quotation marks. So does that mean it's not true or just that you posted it to try to annoy everyone? Since i'm "newer" to the forums, please tell me more about the subtle differences between "Quotation marks" & Fixed it for ya

Would you believe 8,054? (I have no idea how many are active at any one time) Or 4,537?