Vinny & Sue Team

Geocaching is not banned in National Parks. Am I mistaken? Or are you disagreeing with my imprecise terminology? I thought physical caches are not allowed in national parks. At least in the few I've checked. Under current NPS policy, there is no blanket ban on geocaching in national parks. Rather, individual parks can decide whether or not to allow geocaching. NPS geocaching guidance: http://www.nps.gov/policy/GPSguidance.pdf For instance, North Cascades NP is on the verge of allowing physical caches - but then, they are rather remote and want to drive awareness and visitation (and funding) of their park. Mt Rainier NP, otoh, is unlikely to ever allow physical caches, as they get all the traffic they can handle; but they have several great virtuals and earthcaches. This is true. I have personally found and logged caches placed in NPS-managed national parks in the Rocky Mountain states, so no one can ever try to tell me that all caches are banned in all national parks.

This thread should not exist in the first place. HC broke the law. He paid the price and it should have been left at that. Instead he brought it here. Why? Other than the fact that he was on his way to a geocaching event when he broke the law what has any of it got to do with geocaching? That aside he broke the law and asked the people here to side with him. Sorry. We all make mistakes, what we do next is what counts. Very well put; thank you for saying it so well!

Well furtunatly for you, it is illigal in Canada to take the picture of someone without their permission (as per the Access to Information and Privacy Act). So the only way to legaly do this in Canada would be to have a notice in the area, and/or on the cache listing page... Much the same is true in the state of Maryland in the US, and in several other US states, with the exception of photos taken in certain defined public spaces such as city streets and sidewalks.

Geez, I've read all the posts to this point and some agree with me, some don't. Some agree I was victimized, some say I should have known better and got what was coming to me. But all in all it was a civil discourse. Now comes this out and out blatant personal attack on me. You don't know me from Adam, but felt it was within your right to spew such virtriol my way? Talk about unwarranted negativity and hostility! I've always felt the GC forums were pretty much a viper pit and had reservations about posting on here in the first place. That's why I only have 56 posts in 4+ years as a Premium Member. I guess that's why you have 3887... You may wish to read my post again. There is, and was, no personal attack upon you as a person. Anyone halfway competent in reading and comprehending the English language can and will tell you that there were absolutely no personal attacks against you in my post. However, there were indeed a number of accurate observations -- that is, reportage -- offered in my post about your BEHAVIORS, that is, about what you wrote and what you reported that you did in and about the situation. You may wish to learn to draw a distinction between the two things, else you may run into some bumps in life and end up takiing offense where none was needed. By the way, I have received several private emails from folks who have followed this thread reminding me that I forgot to list two particular behaviors in the list in my earlier post; I agree with their joint assessments, and so, here goes; the behaviors that I forgot to list were the following: Displaying unbridled arrogance by leaving your vehicle on someone else's private property and then trying to create distraction by finger-pointing and blaming the property owner/lessee (i.e., KFC) when your vehicle was, as would be expected, towed. Victim mentality Denial. Enuf said. To me, this kind of behavior that you exhibited is akin to driving your car in front of a moving train as it approaches and parking it on the tracks, so that the train will hit your car, and then, in the wake of the crash, huffing and puffing and trying to blame the railroad and the train engineer for the fact that the train, as would simply be expected, hit your vehicle and demolished it. Allow me to remind you that no one forced you to leave your vehicle parked on KFC's private lot, and rather, that was your personal choice. Why not own your behavior rather then engage in denial and huffing and puffing? You are burning a lot of calories, and carrying a lot of anger, rage and blame, where none need be expended nor carried. Frankly speaking, your behavior, as described and exhibited in each of your posts in this thread in a public forum, where all the world can see your words, makes me ashamed to be a geocacher.

Zackly! Those threaded plug caps were not designed to be waterproof. The answer is to use a waterproof cap or plug, such as the one suggested by a recent poster.

God bless you! You kinda hit the jackpot with your post! You hit almost all of the biggies in one post, namely: MAJOR sense of self-entitlement whining unwarranted negativity and hostility refusing to accept responsibility for your own behaviors blaming everyone but yourself throwing bricks at straw men inventing dramas and "causes" where there are/were none, and expecting others to rally to your hoax "cause". Amazing feat there, fellow! Shining example of mature behavior by a geocacher, both on the street and on the forum. It is behavior like yours that is taking geocaching to a new level. P.S. I wrote the above post primarily because I have just received legal papers from Sioneva advising me that I would be permanently banished from the First International Discount Church of Sioneva unless I sent a post to the forum immediately; the Church Imprimaturs and Nihil Obstat Examiners apparently felt that I had been asbsent from the forum for too long.

God bless you! You kinda hit the jackpot with your post! You hit almost all of the biggies in one post, namely: MAJOR sense of self-entitlement whining unwarranted negativity and hostility refusing to accept responsibility for your own behaviors blaming everyone but yourself throwing bricks at straw men inventing dramas and "causes" where there are/were none, and expecting others to rally to your hoax "cause". Amazing feat there, fellow! Shining example of mature behavior by a geocacher, both on the street and on the forum. It is behavior like yours that is taking geocaching to a new level.

You have raised a timely issue. And... there actually exists an entire thread -- one which I started several months ago -- devoted to stigmatic cachers. However, I think that one of the atheist-leaning or pagan-leaning moderators moved the thread to the Off-Topics section of the forum in an ill-guided attempt to stifle it, so you may need to look there.

********* (((bump))) *********

What is a "Retirement Card" that you refer to here??? Pocket Cache I know...is it similar to that??? Take it from me: Retirement cards are great! I would say that over 30% of my finds have been "retirement card" finds, dwarfed only by my 140,000 finds/attendeds on ten events (one attended smiley for each microsecond that I was present at the events) and by my backdated "finds" on long-abandoned archived caches around the world whose owners left the sport years ago! About my only finds that have been easier than the above-listed ones have been the finds that I have purchased in bulk lots via Ebay auctions. Life is great, and moral relativism makes it even all the more fun! I am happy!

Yes, there has been a degradation and degeneration of the sport in several realms as the masses have flocked to join and participate in it. What was it that John Malkovich shouted in a recent movie? Something about the proliferation of morons, and the ascendancy of the League of Morons. Well, a significant number of members of the League of Morons have discovered geocaching, and the sport has changed as a result. Regression to the mean, and all that, you know... Ultimately, however, it does not bother me much at all, and I certainly do not sit around and worry about it. Rather, I am simply grateful that this sport exists, and that there are a number of good hides out there, as well as sincere cache hunters who appreciate high-quality caches. I do sneer condescendingly at the morons once in a while, but they, and their behaviors, do not, for the large part, matter much at all. .

Really really nice attitude there... in fact, stellar attitude! It should serve you real well in life. You obviously realize that it is much better -- and waaaayyy more fun -- to complain than to observe the requirements of a cache listing, and also much more fun to vent spitefully while sputtering furiously than to have gratitude and appreciation for the Earthcache listing. Good job there! ....Actually, for those who may be wondering, I do realize that I have likely been sucked in by yet one more troll post from one of Sioneva's many sock puppet accounts.... sigh...

Ugh.... Yuck! How is this any different from the inane, mindless, hopelessly narcissistic -- and infinitely annoying and irritating -- "25 Things About Me" virus-like meme that has been making its way around Facebook and other social networking sites over the past few months? Haven't you got anything better to do with your time, such as perhaps kicking a dog, robbing a bank, disabling all the red light cameras in your town, waterboarding your in-laws, or stuffing your face with junk food laden with hydrogenated oils and empty calories? Do you REALLY NEED to plague me with this inane drivel? sigh....! There oughta be a law... .

Interesting. I had not thought of that outcome using the new ALR guidelines. Is the opposite true now? If a Non-PM logs a PMOC using the Groundspeak approved "back door" can the cache owner delete their log for it? If you think of it a PMOC is an ALR cache provided your not a member. Relevant text above rendered in bold. Briefly, your statement is grossly incorrect, and the actual reality is far different has been discussed numerous times on the forum.

Well gosh, Vinny, that's helpful! But I could just use this Artesian well. So... let me get this straight: You came here and begged us repeatedly to give you product ideas for your business, and yet you have turned my suggestion into a JOKE? Sorry... I had mistakenly believed that your request was sincere, and that you were seriously looking for product suggestions for natural skincare products for geocachers. Now that I know that you are an idle dilletante who was simply trolling for the fun of it, I will refrain from sharing further product suggestions.

If I were in your area I'd probably send you daily emails asking why you hadn't looked at my cache page yet. Just kidding, of course. Seems to me you are making some baseless assumptions. In the many threads on this topic, almost everyone who uses the audit logs just finds it another interesting aspect of the game. I remember exactly ONE instance of someone receiving unwelcome emails. For the record, all of my hides from here on will be PMO's because: I like looking at the audit logs. I like to encourage people to support the website. I don't care if people who are not PM's find and log the cache. I don't care if you find a way to look at the listing without having your visit added to the audit log. It's a game! Exactly! I agree! The percentage of PM geocachers who have used info from the audit logs on their PM caches to send inappropriate emails/PMs to cachers who looked at the audit page is ridiculously low, perhaps one in a million. I personally love the audit log feature on our many PM and Platinum Member caches, and the more folks who visit my cache listing pages, the more I enjoy it! .

I am assuming that you are sure that this phenomenon that you are seeing is truly one of fake finds, and is not simply due to the fact that perhaps the geocacher found the cache and signed the log under a team name and then later decided to log the finds online under her/his own account name. This phenomenon of logging hoax fines or fake finds seems to be a growing trend, and, if it were me (and this is true for most local geocachers whom I know as well), I would delete these fake finds in a second. I certainly would not bother to waste my time in sending the phony find logger a note of explanation, for he/she knows very well what they are doing, and they do not deserve any time or effort on my part. And, if the phony find cacher persisted in re-logging their fake finds, I would report them to Groundspeak, so that Groundspeak can disable their account.

One more reason not to do paperless caching, and one more reason to go back to paper caching, no?

These posts sound like fun! And they sound like a cute way to welcome a new cache into the world! This is a great idea, and thank you for sharing it!

It is well-known in the healthcare field that low-dose radiation from natural sources has been shown to enhance biological responses for immune systems, enzymatic repair, physiological functions, and the removal of cellular damage, including prevention and removal of cancers and other diseases. Despite the fact that radiation hormesis, aka radiation nutrition, has recently become a major fad in the alternative health world and even, to some extent, in the mainstream healthcare world, witnessed by the fact that several books and have been published by MDs and others in the healthcare field on that topic in the past few months alone, there is nonetheless currently a real dearth of radioactive soaps, radioactive skincare lotions, radioactive clay pastes and radioactive mud packs in the marketplace for use on the skin in eliminating inflammation due to insect bites, sunburn, windburn, poison ivy and other irritants from plants and in repairing past damage. In fact, in the USA, the only producer/vendor of such radioactive products that I can think of is my friend and colleague Jay at Nighthawk Minerals in Colorado. So, since geocachers regularly encounter all the situations listed above (i.e., insect bites, sunburn, windburn, poison ivy and other irritants from plants) and since at least perhaps 40% of geocachers are users of alternative health products, I would like to suggest that you create an all-natural and organic line of products as follows: radioactive uranium soap, containing finely-powdered/milled uranium ore radioactive thorium soap, containing finely-powdered/milled thorium-rich sands radioactive skincare lotion, containing from 5% to 35% finely-powdered uranium ore radioactive mud packs, containing from 50% to 80% finely-powdered uranium ore, admixed with selected calcium bentonite clays radioactive dry packs sealed in plastic sleeves, containing 50% to 80% finely-powdered uranium ore, admixed with sodium bentonite clays Further, since many folks are now starting to drink radioactive water enriched with radon and radon progeny, you may wish to also come out with a bottled water product for geocachers and other outdoor sports aficionados, exhibiting a radiance of at least 100,000 pCi/L. You would produce the water in a stainless steel tank filled with crushed uranium ore, of course. Hope this helps! . Just a quick post to add a belated footnote to my above post for the OP: If you should need help in designing and formulating any of these radioactive skincare products or radioactive water products, I am willing to work with on this; I am a well-recognized internationally-known R&D and product development consultant in this field (and in a number of related fields) and can deliver prototype product samples to you within four weeks of initiation of contractual product development services. .

It is well-known in the healthcare field that low-dose radiation from natural sources has been shown to enhance biological responses for immune systems, enzymatic repair, physiological functions, and the removal of cellular damage, including prevention and removal of cancers and other diseases. Despite the fact that radiation hormesis, aka radiation nutrition, has recently become a major fad in the alternative health world and even, to some extent, in the mainstream healthcare world, witnessed by the fact that several books and have been published by MDs and others in the healthcare field on that topic in the past few months alone, there is nonetheless currently a real dearth of radioactive soaps, radioactive skincare lotions, radioactive clay pastes and radioactive mud packs in the marketplace for use on the skin in eliminating inflammation due to insect bites, sunburn, windburn, poison ivy and other irritants from plants and in repairing past damage. In fact, in the USA, the only producer/vendor of such radioactive products that I can think of is my friend and colleague Jay at Nighthawk Minerals in Colorado. So, since geocachers regularly encounter all the situations listed above (i.e., insect bites, sunburn, windburn, poison ivy and other irritants from plants) and since at least perhaps 40% of geocachers are users of alternative health products, I would like to suggest that you create an all-natural and organic line of products as follows: radioactive uranium soap, containing finely-powdered/milled uranium ore radioactive thorium soap, containing finely-powdered/milled thorium-rich sands radioactive skincare lotion, containing from 5% to 35% finely-powdered uranium ore radioactive mud packs, containing from 50% to 80% finely-powdered uranium ore, admixed with selected calcium bentonite clays radioactive dry packs sealed in plastic sleeves, containing 50% to 80% finely-powdered uranium ore, admixed with sodium bentonite clays Further, since many folks are now starting to drink radioactive water enriched with radon and radon progeny, you may wish to also come out with a bottled water product for geocachers and other outdoor sports aficionados, exhibiting a radiance of at least 100,000 pCi/L. You would produce the water in a stainless steel tank filled with crushed uranium ore, of course. Hope this helps! .

Glad to help. Thank you for having asked. The consumer products that would be most useful to me as a geocacher are those listed below; each should be all-natural, organic and free of synthetics; list follows an inexpensive jetpack which will stay aloft for at least 19 14 minutes on one fueling what's 5 minutes? a small inexpensive personal helicopter capable of traveling at least 150 mph and capable of traveling 500 475 miles on one tank of fuel what's 25 miles? a small and safe and reliable interdimensional portal that will allow me to find caches on thousands of alternate dimensional worlds your interdimensional caching permit was pulled because you couldn't leave the nanny goats (and their interdimensional counterparts) alone and you know it, Vinny Hope this helps! I want to change my answer.... Vinny's just griping, I have already provided him with his desires with only slight variations as indicated (and I had no need to SPAM or do "market research" on these forums, either. I knew my market.) It was jennie donkeys, not nanny goats, but I can say no more due to the gag order imposed upon me by the Fourth Interdimensional Circuit Court at the time of my conviction. .

mmmmmm... yummy! yes! yes! yes! Thanks for bringing up the joys of unfolding spring! I LOVE ticks, mosquitoes, spiders, cave crickets, snakes ('specially venomous snakes!), and I never use any kind of insect repellent nor any other repellent or "protective" thingies, as they might alienate the cute friendly ticks, mosquitoes, flies, and spiders. Thank you for reminding me of the joys of spring! I am very lucky and very blessed, compared to many of you, as I live in the mountains of western Maryland, and thus our mosquitoes and/or ticks, in addition to carrying West Nile virus and the Lyme disease spirochete, also carry Babesiosis and Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever, and our wild rodents and their fecal material also carry plague (Yersina spp.) and hantavirus! We are indeed blessed, and thus I make sure never to wear any insect repellent, so as to avoid accidentally rejecting the wonderful gifts of God and Mother Nature! . LOL! One of these days, if you aren't careful, that hand is gonna reach down and smack you right in the back of the head. Until then I hope to continue to enjoy your posts. Thanks for the chuckle. Actually, I was totally telling the truth. About the only insects that bother me a bit are biting black flies, and we rarely encounter them around here, so they are not a worry for me. As for all the other things, I love them!

Glad to help. Thank you for having asked. The consumer products that would be most useful to me as a geocacher are those listed below; each should be all-natural, organic and free of synthetics; list follows an inexpensive jetpack which will stay aloft for at least 19 minutes on one fueling a small inexpensive personal helicopter capable of traveling at least 150 mph and capable of traveling 500 miles on one tank of fuel a small and safe and reliable interdimensional portal that will allow me to find caches on thousands of alternate dimensional worlds Hope this helps!

Judging from disclosures in past threads and on some profile pages, a small but significant number of geocachers, including several who post regularly on the forum, seem to sign the paper log but choose to forego logging most or all of their finds online. And, speaking from direct experience, I can tell you with great certainty that from one to two out of ten (that is 10% to 20%) of geoachers who have signed the logbooks on long-lived wilderness caches that require significant hikes in this area of Maryland have never filed those finds online.