RoadRunner
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In Nevada, and most other places, it illegal to enter an abandonded mine. The State tries to seal them off, but it is not cheap, so they try to get the most unstable or higher risk ones first. (Higher risk = in popular off road enthusiest areas).
I believe what A & J Tooling is refering to is the minefields in war zones. I doubt you will find any geocaches inside the marked areas, but I have found some geocaches just outside the minefield fence along the access road.
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You can find the background here <Link>
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It's not mine.
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For the past several weeks, in the mornings, I've been seeing this roadrunner sitting on a fence near my house. Most mornings, its had its feathers ruffed out (as in the photos below) as if it was trying to absorb some of the morning sun. Yesterday, I finally managed to get a photo of it.
I think I know that bird.
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Happy Holidays!
and all that jazz.
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On the Roadrunner theme, heres a couple shots of a hide by a friend of mine who puts out some great ones.
What do you do with a bowling ball that you find while out caching?? Make a cache out of it of course! A local dentist had the statues already, so it was a perfect fit.
I will have to put this one on my "must do" list.
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I would like to vote for Nevada Geocaching.
Why does my vote say Ringbone?
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And a Joyous New Year!
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the picture of the rather cartoonish stick of "dynamite" is the actual TB. The other is just a picture of a (very ill-conceived) prototype that wasn't used.
Was there a request for cartoonish dynamite?
I think I published that cache.
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Since I couldn't put it any better than this....
Do you own multistage or mystery/puzzle caches that were published more than five or six months ago? If so, the parking, intermediate and final stage coordinates may be in reviewer notes, e-mail messages you sent to the person who was your reviewer at the time, or perhaps just in your personal notes if the cache was published before 2003-2004 when we started looking beyond the coordinates at the top of the cache page.
There's now a new feature on your cache page - a way to document the waypoints associated with your cache, in addition to the obvious posted one. You can add waypoint coordinates to help other geocachers - like a parking area or a trailhead. For the paperless caching crowd those additional waypoints can be magically downloaded to a PDA and GPS. Pretty cool.
You can also add coordinate waypoints to help us - your cache reviewers. That would include the final coordinates of a mystery cache, and the intermediate and final coordinates of a multistage cache. This category of added waypoints can be set to be only be visible to you and to an administrator/reviewer like myself using a new reviewer’s tool.
While having your coordinate information documented with your cache page can be helpful to you, your reviewers will probably gain the greatest benefits. And what helps your reviewers also helps you, but we will get to that a little later.
Here's why we ask that you do this:
Whenever we review a new cache submission we have to be sure that it's not too close (less than .1 mile, or 528 feet) to another cache, or to the intermediate stages of another cache. We are not so concerned with the ficticious posted coordinates of a mystery cache, but we don't want your container being found while someone is searching for another one. When a new cache is submitted in a cache-rich area we have to check for the nearest caches, then open as many as a dozen nearby cache pages, retrieve that "note to reviewer" and compare the new cache's coordinates to those of the old cache. It's very tedious and time consuming.
The "waypoints" feature has been added to help the cache reviewers. With this plus a new reviewer tool, we can click on a link that will show the reviewers at a glance how close the new cache is to the starting and ending coordinatess of all other caches in the area. It's a great help, but it relies on those waypoints being recorded to provide a comprehensive view.
Here's where you can help us: If you own a multistage or mystery cache please go to your cache page and click on "waypoints" at the top right section of the cache page. You'll then see a page where you enter your coordinates and make some selections.
These Waypoint Types can be selected from the drop down menu:
Parking Area
Trailhead
Stages of a Multicache
Question to Answer
Reference Point
Final Location
Next there is an entry box for a Waypoint Name. For consistency, we suggest using entries like these:
GC???? Parking
GC???? Trailhead
GC???? Stage 1, Stage 2, Stage 3, etc.
GC???? Question 1, Question 2, etc.
GC???? Reference Point 1, etc.
GC???? Final
(GC???? represents your cache page waypoint number starting with the letters GC.)
Next there is an entry box for a Waypoint Lookup Code of up to six digits. Suggested entries include:
PARKNG
TRAIL (or TRAIL1, TRAIL2, etc.)
STAGE1, STAGE2, etc.
QUEST1, QUEST2, etc.
REF1, REF2, etc.
FINAL
Next there is an entry box for a two character Prefix Code; suggested entries include:
PK
T1, T2, etc.
S1, S2, etc.
Q1, Q2, etc
R1, R2, etc.
FN
Next there is an area for the coordinates of the waypoint you are entering, followed by an optional text entry box. In the case of a parking waypoint, you may want to state something along the lines of "Metered parking is in effect from 8 a.m. to 6 p.m. except Sundays and holidays." This field is optional.
Here's a real important part. The next thing you will see are three radio buttons, of which you may select only one:
o Show all information for this waypoint, including coordinates
o Show the details of this waypoint but hide the coordinates
o Hide this waypoint from view except by the owner or administrator
For parking and trailhead waypoints, you will want to select the top radio button so everyone can see the information.
For questions to answer or reference points, you might choose the middle radio button to hide only the coordinates from the view of geocachers.
For the stages of a multicache and for the final location, you will want to choose the bottom radio button to keep the waypoint information under wraps.
Finally, be sure to click the Create Waypoint link at the bottom left of the page. If you forget to do this, or if you click on the Archive Waypoint link, you get to start all over. Not fun!
So how does this help you as a cache owner?
First, it provides you with a convenient place to store the details of your multistage and mystery caches. No more random scraps of paper or extra waypoints stored on your GPSr.
Second, it will help prevent cache placements that conflict with or overlap one another.
Third, it will help the volunteer reviewers perform a more thorough assessment of potential cache proximity issues.
Fourth, it will help to get new caches published more promptly for you to hunt. (OK; this one is a bit lame, but I needed to say someting to make you smile at this point.)
If you could help us out by updating your previously published caches, it will be greatly appreciated.
Thank you.
-gpsfun, MadMin, and POFE
Volunteer Reviewers for New England
(With thanks to erik88l-r for his similar article in the GGA forums.)
I'm sure I speak for many other reviewers in the West/Southwest.
Thanks for your assistance.
RoadRunner
Volunteer Reviewer- Nevada
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Happy Holidays from Nevada!
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I just read an e-mail from the previous owner. It turns out that there are some significant differences between what the situation was like when the cache was originaly placed and what it's like now. Even if the container and the location are the same, the overall experience does change due to new limitations in access. This also could possibly effect terrain and difficulty.
My recommendation to the previous owner was that they could offer ownership of the container to another cacher and the new owner could replace the log book and list the cache as new listing.
RR
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All of the above concerns are addressed whenever a cache is archived or adopted out. The situation is looked at on a case by case basis.
At the moment, the OP needs to contact the reviewer and see what the situation is and what (if anything) can be done. Knowing what cache will help.
Thanks
RoadRunner
Nevada Reviewer
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I hit mine pretty much randomly. Sometimes I will start at the bottom of the list, sometimes at the top. If I feel especially adventurous, I will hit a bunch in the middle.
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Sorry to hijack, but I have a question about reviewers: Are there any hardcore reviewers that have a reasonably small area and will actually go find every cache before they approve them?
Do we get mileage and Per Diem?
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Having the name of which reviewer is helpful also. I have seen where a cache was placed on private property and the cachers were able to quickly let the reviewer know and get the situation under control.
That was already available. It is called an SBA log.
That does work most of the time. In this case I was filling in for a reviewer on vacation, so I would not get the SBA notification for her state. Also, folks do not always post SBA logs. In this case there were 3 notes posted, no SBA, and an e-mail to myself and the owner.
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Since Nevada's pouplation center is well inside a bombing range, I doubt we will see a physical cache placement there. That would support the idea of the plaque or marker, not the position itself.
Would this idea extend to geographical centers also?
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Normally this happens when you have duplicate "found it" logs for the same cache. In your case, it could be the 2 locationless caches that are in your count, but not in your list.
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However, making sure the correct cache type (and size maybe) would be something under their duties I would imagine.
Yes, reviewers do normally check for those types of errors. A Traditional that should be a Multi or Puzzle, etc.
As far as the cache listing contents, the owner is responsible for that and reviewers really shouldn't go changing things. It would cause more harm than good.
Edit: add completeness
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Setting aside the concerns about having a cache (physical or virtual) close to a school, I still don't see why you couldn't use the historical marker as the starting point for a multi/offset cache.
For the same reason. The problem is having people wander close to and around school property causing school officials to call the police. We just dont want to take the chance they will.
LaPaglia, I agree with you completely. What I meant was that IF the concerns about being so close to a school didn't come into play (which they obviously DO), then it STILL wouldn't be meet the criteria for hiding a virtual.
The OP has argued that this spot is historically significant and therefore meets the "WOW factor" requirements. I'm not sure I buy that, but even if I did...he still hasn't addressed why the area could not support a physical cache as a final stage for a multi.
Well, first of all obviously there is no place for a physical cache of anykind at this location since it is on the property of the Charleston School District.
Second, if you are unsure of the importance of this particular area, how many people have heard of Central High School in Little Rock Arkansas where Gov. Fabus had to call out the National Guard when that school tried to integrate. Charleston Arkansas integrated with no National Guard, not protest, it was totally peaceful. I think there are a LOT of people who would be VERY interested in the fact that tiny Charleston, Arkansas a town with a population today of right at 3K was the first school in the Old Confederacy to allow blacks to attend school with whites.
If anyone thinks that is not interesting, then the person thinking that is obviously either an idiot, or does not care about civil rights.
Rusty_da_dog
The details of why this location is important is not relevant. The relevant issue is that reviewers will no longer publish caches that will bring strangers onto school property.
Is that to the point enough?
RR
Edit: spelling
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Rusty_da_dog,
At this moment I would highly that you settle down and realize what is going on. You have been attacking reviewers as well as the person who is in charge of the reviewers. Nothing about that will change the guidlelines or get your virtual published.
When you think about it, elementary and middle schools are not good places to put a cache. It really doesn't matter what type. It will not be published.
Thanks
RoadRunner
Cache Reviewer
Place your own Lab Cache!?!?!
in General geocaching topics
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While it is possible to set one up and just e-mail the recipient the code word, I suspect the experiment is to see what ways people can use their imagination and ingenuity to do something cool.