Let's Look Over Thayer

I've considered the Terracache possibility but I don't know of a Terracache there (but then again I'm not a member -- I can't even keep with all the new caches on geocaching.com... ) The "Congratulations" sheet refers to geocaching.com but you are correct, it does not appear to have ever been listed. (Since it's right on the edge of my currently cleared area, I definitely would have noticed it... )

Pilots will tell you that the three most useless things in the world are: The altitude above you. The runway behind you. The air in your fuel tank. To this list, I can add a geocacher item... The cache you find, but can't log. Ms. LLOT and I went out to find King Geepius's lost cache box (GCD569) and on the way back, we stopped at Tooth Rock. While there, we spotted an ammo can in a place where we didn't expect to find one. At first, we thought it might be a peak log but when we pulled it out, it said "Geocache" on the side. Inside was some swag, a log book and the standard "Congratulations! You've found it..." paper. It claimed to be the "Tooth Rock Cache" placed 21Jan2006. We weren't even the first to sign the log . Someone else had found it earlier in the day so we were only "STF". Even so, we were kind of jazzed to be getting an unexpected extra smiley. The only problem is that this cache doesn't exist -- at least as far as geocaching.com is concerned. My guess is that someone placed the cache up there only to have it rejected due to it being too close to King Geepius (it would be considerably less than 0.1 mi.) . Then they never bothered to retrieve it. Anyone know anything about this mystery cache?

If you know that the coin is definitely in the cache, why not just "grab" the coin from the user and then "drop" it into the cache by posting a note to the cache (selecting the grabbed coin, of course.) Just a suggestion...

That's a cool thing! It might prevent a really bad day... I have to wonder, though, about the testimonial that says "We will be back next year and bring our horses too." I'm picturing someone putting a dog collar and leash on their horse and trying to register their "doggy".

DR. BOGGIS: Well, I am King! DAN-OH: Oh, King, eh, very nice. And how d'you get that, eh? By exploiting the workers! By 'anging on to outdated imperialist dogma which perpetuates the economic and social differences in our society. If there's ever going to be any progress with the-- SNAKE: Dan-Oh, there's a lovely cache down here.

Hmmm, lets see...10 essential items... 1) GPSr 2) PDA with updated PQ's 3) Trade items and travel bugs 4) Spare batteries for the GPSr 5) Kneepads for nasty D-JM/PW drainage pipe caches 6) Headlamp for same... 7) "Dan-Oh" hat (with updated software) for enhanced geosensing 8) Camera for cache-critter shots and Harmon fodder 9) Cache probe (preferably one with a rubber foot on one end and camera mount on the other.) 10) Cellphone programmed with lifeline numbers (Preferably one with wireless Internet in case the PDA gets lost or broken and/or in case in-field googling is needed.) That seems like a pretty good list to me!

Well, everyone's already said it, but I'll say it again anyway! Wow! Those came out great! Truly a worthy memorial to our comrade.

I seem to have run into the same problem. I paid for the two coins that I ordered at the same time, but only one says "Paid". The other is still "Pending.

Here's one (Segway, that is...)! Looks like Flagman on his way to a newly published cache...

Congrats LLOT for 1 ! Thanks every one! It has been one heck of a ride to get this far and judging by the exploits and adventures of the high-count cachers, the ride is merely beginning. When we started this game, we figured that we would have some fun and get some exercise. In this, we've succeeded beyond our wildest expectations. What we didn't expect was the grandest reward of all -- meeting such a wonderfully diverse and interesting group of people. We cherish the friends we've made (both on the trail and at the cache events) and we look forward to meeting more of y'all in the future. Here's to ya! May the road always rise up to meet you! (but not too quickly! )

Never fear! This forum comes equipped with its very own rocket scientist, RocketMan. (Nothing but the best for San Diego Geocachers!)

It involves rocket science... What you gotta do is use your web browser. Go to Geocaching.com and look for the little "NEW!" icon. (That's how we did it...) Of course, our task was made a little easier due to the fact that this was the week that there were 143 new caches within 450 feet of our house. (Ok, I'm exaggerating, but not by much...)

We saw these a lot as we grew up in New Mexico. We called them squeak bugs because they squeaked when we pinned 'em down to the ground with a twig...(not that I'd encourage anyone to do this. Kids can be so cruel...)

I had something happen to me this week that was similar -- but the message was sent direct -- it did not pass through gc.com... On Sunday evening, I sent some information on a virtual to the cache owner. The page specifically said not to log the cache until I got a response so I was holding off. By Wednesday, I had not gotten a response (which was a little odd since the owner is active...) So I sent another message. I got a response saying to go ahead and log the cache and by the way, he had responded to my first message on Monday morning. I checked my spam folder and my trash folder. No message. It was a mystery. Six hours later, it [the message sent on Monday morning] showed up... :)

Ooops! Missed the part where it said "this summer". Ignore my response then. In summer, the hiking is fantastic. Buy the locally published book by the same author on Grand County hiking trails. You'll have a blast.

This time of year, the west side is pretty much buried in snow. The caching can be pretty challenging as a result. Hiking can also be pretty difficult as you will be postholing up to your hips. But it's not all bad -- there's some fantastic cross-country ski trails there. One of my favorites is to go up the valley of the Colorado River (same one that cut the Grand Canyon) though it's not much more than a creek at this point. If XC-skiing is not your thing, plan on renting snowshoes. You will not regret it. There's a locally published book on Grand County ski trails that's well worth the investment if you plan to do any skiing or snowshoeing. You'll probably have better luck caching on the east side. Trivia time: Did you know that the Colorado River used to be named the Grand River? That's where all these Grand names (Grand County, Grand Lake, Grand Junction, Grand Canyon, etc.) come from.

Hmmm...photoshopping with actual animal parts... Harmon, is this Lesson #13?

I was about to make a snide comment... ...and then I realized that we have named our GPSrs. (People who live in glass houses...) The first one was "Irma". Irma is a StreetPilot 2610. "Irma" stands for Invisible Route Management Assistant. The next GPSr to come along was a 60CS. Since it also has turn-by-turn routing, it became "Irma Jr." Then we won an Etrex in the Jeep contest. It's a cute little thing and since it can also do turn-by-turn routing, it became "Irmette".

Sooooo..... ....what you are saying is that Flagman hasn't found all of the TT San Diego hides after all?

I'd be in for a set.

So, if someone cuts one down, will someone go and update the sign?

Snow Mountain Ranch is a sweet place in winter. I've skied (XC) there many times. There are not many caches in the area. Most are under about four feet of snow right now (well, at least that was the case when we were there two weeks ago). In the week that we were in the area, we only bagged two caches. One was on the back side of Mary Jane Ski Area. (Accessible for intermediate or better skiers/boarders. )The other was in the Safeway parking lot in Fraser. (Snow also impeded this recovery but it was still accessible.)

OK, I'm trying out the new fangled way of responding to multiple messages... The "neat" thing about the MTRP Nuisance caches is that each is a nuisance in it's own unique way. #1 is fairly easy to find. Siging it, on the other hand... This one is the true MTRP Nuisance Cache...not only is it a pain in the tush to get to, it makes finding #4 seem relatively easy. Three days ago, I would have been willing to sign up for the Cegrube firing squad...but then I encountered Put on the Feedbag #1 -- Paul Bunyan's One A Day and I'm inclined to commute the sentence to a life-time of community service (that's the caching community, of course!)

Well, if we're going to pick nits... Any coin issue where there are a fixed number of coins and no more will be made is inherently a "limited edition". There are a limited number of coins. End of story. Taken this way, almost all geo-coins are LE. It's just that some editions are more limited than others. It's rather odd, in my mind to use "limited edition" distinguish the special edition unobtainium coin (50 will be made) from the ordinary pot-metal edition (only 5000 will be made). Both are limited editions. On the other hand, when car-makers use LE, the distinction makes sense because the ordinary edition is not inherently limited to a particular number of cars. They'll make as many plain ones as people will buy. (Of course, there are car manufacturers who will label something that's not really limited as a "limited edition" so there's another side of the same coin...) I don't see any reason to fix the definition of "LE" to a particular size. "Limited" should not imply a certain size. It merely means that there is a boundary value in play. So long as the edition size is accurately reported to the purchaser, everybody will know what the situation is. My 2 cents...

Ummmm, yeah... The only problem is that I did it the old fashioned way of cutting and pasting HTML... (I'd actually have to think to do it the new way... )