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If you go search ebay for an iWay 100m you can get a full voice autorouter for less. I just bought a new iWay for $114. It may be discontinued, but it's still the best available handheld autorouter GPS.

What do you mean all that can be expected is to help you get in the general direction?I purchased the software because of what it says it does. Why even put the POIs in the software if they are wrong? One of them I checked on was miles away. Now that is plain bad software. When I purchase software, I expect it to do what it says. A few mistakes, ok, but most of the POIs are wrong. Mapcreate has problems with addresses, so knowing that, I will not count on it, but I was mislead. Also, a major highway runs through my town, US 49. About a mile of it is gone--nothing there--then it just picks up again. It is not a good deal for the money. I received a response from Lowrance about the software and I got the feeling they didn't care a whole lot. They asked if I could give them an example. I gave them a slew of them and haven't heard back. I still like the GPS. It's great. The software is ok since it is the only ballgame in town, but know that you can't count on it and it isn't everything that it promotes. It had our local restaurants, but they were blocks away, but didn't even have the hospital listed on there--had the parking lot, though. For what it's worth, Navteq provides the mapping and POI for Gargellans too. The POI come from local/County GIS surveys in all probability. Some of the POIs are going to be where they ought to be on all maps and some won't having compared mapping with Garmins on a few occasions I can say that I have found the Lowrance maps more accurate, and more complete.

Hold off on buying the second one. Get him an upgrade for Christmas and keep the 'old' one for yourself. [/quote I agree! Buy him a Garmin and snatch that H2O back for yourself. You might have to buy a color screen unit to be sure he thinks he is getting a better unit. Whatever you do though, don't trade back after you get posession of the H2O.

I have an H20 currently, 2 iWay 100ms and a Hunt. The H20 does not have audio capabilities that I know of. The Hunt does voice memos. The iways I refer to as "Talking Judys". The iWay will do everything the H20 does plus the full voice and text navigation. The menu system is a little different on the iWays but the keys are identical. The update files for the Hunt, H20 and iWays have different extensions on them. I suspect that if you were to change the firmware you could turn an Iway into a Hunt or H2o and vice versa.

It will allow multiple maps on a chip. The iFinder basic has different memory limits than the pro and I think the pro is different than the Hunt/H20/iWay 100/Map & Music/Phd. which accept gigger chips. I cannot tell you if the basic and pro will accept a big chip, but limit out on file size. I would not surprize me to see them accept a 512 meg chip but limit out at 128 meg for a given map size. I do know that MapCreate 6.3 has a hissy fit trying to make a >512 meg map. Try to create a map of say 7-900 meg and you might die of old age before it finishes. Make three maps of 300 meg each on the same chip and it might take half an hour for the lot. (About that on a 3.2 GHz laptop with a gig of RAM, and not a whole lot more on a 650 MHz laptop with 512 meg of RAM) The difference between USB 1 and 2 is more critical after overall file size.

You can turn off the Autorouting or not. Makes no difference. The unit works fine for caching but mine seems to be a little hard on batteries compared to my other iFinders. The map create software is the same for the two units. You don't need both. The same 5 card limit applies to both.

Yeah, I put a couple maps on a gigger chip. They cover from Idaho over to New York, and from Highway 17 in Canada down to Missouri. There's still about 500 meg left. I just searched on ebay for iWay 100m. There were several. http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?f...title=iWay+100m There are still a bunch less than 100 on auction and an bunch for ~$170, which is still a very good price for the unit What doesn't work?

You cannot use the NG maps that I know of. You need MapCreate 6.0, 6.2, or 6.3. If you have 6.3 you must have the LEI Readr/Writer. Perhaps the iWay 100m is the cheapest available full mapping iFinder now. I just this week bought a new one for $114. It provides everything you need, full voice autorouting,reader/maps/dash mount/GPSr/ power cord/mempry chip. The maps in my experience have better accuracy that Gargellans, the units are faster than Gargellans, they have better reception than Gargellans, they have virtually no bugs by comparison to Gargellans and they cost less. I have one Garmin and four Lowrances. I got rid of two other Garmins and one Magellan. The Lowrances are better units, and not by a small margin by the way.

In all probability, this is a case of the unit being set to require WAAS. It would be next to impossible to create the same symptom set and have a funtional unit otherwise.

Here's one for $169 Snatch that sucker up. You can't buy half as much gargellan for twice the money! You might find one for $30 or so less, but the price you have still beats the H out of any competetive unit.

I'm helping my daughter-in-law select a GPSr. One use she my have for it is to hook it up to her laptop in the car and use it with Microsoft Streets and Trips for tracking/guiding. This requires being able to connect it via cable to the laptop. Other than this, it looks like a real good deal at $150. Just find her a copy of Map Create 6. She'll have a better map. Take a little piece of velcro and velcro the unt onto the dash where she can see it and she's good to go. You might look around for an iWay 100m. It comes with Map Create, the card reader, a better iFinder, and a memory chip too, and you might just find the wqhol works for under $150 brand new. There's still a few new 100m's on the market.

It's a fine unit, the mapping is second to none, the ability to work under tree cover is like every other iFinder, the unit is much faster than gargellans and it will cost you less than half what you will pay for a comparable gargellan. Oh yeah, it has a much better screen than gargellans too. On the minus side, it isn't waterproof.

Well done Terraboy! Next time tell 'em it's a great caching unit too, after all, this is the Geocaching forums. And, don't be telling 'em what you paid for it or all the Gargellan people will hate you.

It's a ninth century Monsieur Zig Zag.

Check ebay for an iWay 100 m. It can do everything the H2O does, and then some. And... you can buy a new one last time I checked for <150 bucks. It's discontinued now, and what's left in distribution will be gone soon, but you can't get close to the features for more than twice the money. Buy a comparable gargellan and you get the problems you see in these forums. You don't see those problems associated with Lowrances now do you?

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Oh? How about if you get everything the H2O has, voice autorouting, Mapcreate 6.3, a SD chip, a Chip reader all for under $150???

please let me know where to get the cable and the software for this item. You get them on ebay where you get *everything*.

If your sister is worth it get her one of these: http://cgi.ebay.com/Lowest-Price-Lowrance-...1QQcmdZViewItem

If you buy mapcreate 6.0 you can upgrade for free to 6.2 and you can use any SD chip reader to read/write the maps to the chip. If you buy 6.3 you must have the Lowrance reader to register the chips. In my experience the 6.3 software is slightly more current, but the 6.2 is more than adequate. Both seem to be more detailed than the other maps I have seen. 6.3 has turn by turn navigation capability. That may be a big deal since I believe that firmware alone could allow the non-autorouting Lowrances to be turned into autorouters.

Go look in the garage sale forum. No modern Lowrance units for sale are there? There are a whole lot of Lowrance users out there, but they don't have all ther bugs of the new Magellans, nor the quirks of the Garmins. So, the Lowrance users don't need to be "upgrading". They just freaking work, the maps are better, and for frosting, the cost is a whole lot less. If you have $200 burning a hole in your pocket, go buy an iWay 100, you'll get the mapping software, a chip, and have $50 or so left. You get full voice autorouting, the same ipx7 waterproofing as the H2O, better than a gargellan and money left over to boot. Can't beat that!

I've been looking at the Lowrance H2O units for geocaching and I like what I'm reading in here. I had not even heard of the iWay 100 before reading this thread, and I must say that it sounds like exactly what I'm looking for - geocaching and autorouting for a great price. I just have one question... Does the iWay 100 have a compas heading/bearing screen like other "typical" outdoor GPSr units? We typically use the compas screen on the Magellan Meridian Gold unit we've been borrowing from a friend while looking for caches. The Lowrance emulator for the H20 has this screen, but it doesn't show up in the iWay 100 manual you can down load from Lowrance. If the iWay 100 has the compass screen, then it sounds like exactly what I'm looking for! I don't really know if the iWay 100m has that. In fact, I have never used the compass heading/bearing screen on any of my other Lowrances. The way I use them for caching is to just use the map screen customized with the Ground Speed, EPE, Altitude at the bottom. With a Lowrance, if the EPE is <30 feet, then watch the GS and Altitude. If the Altitude jumps less than about ten feet you have a very good fix. If the Ground Speed jumps much at all you have a bad fix. With both stable you just walk the pointer onto the waypoint you have selected and keep bumping the range down until you have .02 range and the pointer is on the waypoint. With it set like that, I find that most of the time with stable GS and Alt when the pointer is on the cache I am within six feet of the cache, and often enough within two feet. When the Hider had a bad fix, this show up pretty obviously. When I set waypoints I average them. When I come back to my waypoints I set like this and had good signal, I find I am always dead on. Fixes made like that are so accurate I can return to specific prairie plants I want without fail. Entering a waypoint someone else has supplied the numbers for leaves you with the +/- one digit accuracy limitation of the GPS itself which in my area gives me about an 8 foot by 12 foot box. If the cache falls outside that box I will normally note it and provide averaged numbers for the posit. No cachers have ever made note of position error from positions I have averaged. I do on occasion use an external antenna velcroed onto a long stick to get a good signal when I am under hear foliage or subject to multipathing.

I have both. They are no different for caching. The iWay talks and routes. If you can still find the iWay under $150 yet, that's a hell of a unit with unsurpassed mapping for very little money. Is the iWay waterproof? The H20 is and I think that is a concern for geocaching. Brian, The iWay 100m is physically almost identical to the H2O. It has the same waterproofing design so I assume it's IPX7 as well. Because of the voice function and the "speak" button, the setting of a waypoint is slightly different, but it still offers instant and averaged waypoints.

I have four of them actually, plus one gargellan left over from the dark days. The 12 vs 16 channels comparison is useless. You will only use four or five anyway, no matter how many you can pick up. I don't know it for a fact, but I think a person could probably rename the firmware updates ande it would run and convert the unit to whatever the update was for. I think the hardware is functionally identical. Accuracy is identical amonst them all. The iWay (talking Judy) is good for in the car, and just as accurate as the H2O or the Hunt for caching. All three can use the cig lighter plug from either of the others and all that happens is talking Judy loses her voice if I use the H20's or the Hunt's cable because they don't have a speaker in it even though the Hunt has voice memos. Buy the iWay. You get them maps, a chip reader, a memory chip and the GPSr for really cheap.

I have both. They are no different for caching. The iWay talks and routes. If you can still find the iWay under $150 yet, that's a hell of a unit with unsurpassed mapping for very little money.