Ecylram
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The important consideration is the name given to the cache: Do you think it's possible that the reviewer didn't recognise the name as being that of a commercial business? Of course, there's always the possibility that the name of the cache was changed after publication.
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MrsB
I'm sure that it wasn't recognized and, so that I'm crystal clear, I've got NO PROBLEMS with the local reviewer. He/She/It seems quite proficient at what they do. As I was driving to the cache I was trying to figure out the 'clue' in the name as it didn't seem to have any association with the site (it didn't).
Since someone mentioned logo'd swag...
One thing I didn't mention in the OP is there was a sheet of paper with the information on the cache, we've seen those before and they aren't swag. Three-fourth of that sheet of paper was a pitch on the business. There wasn't anything about this full lock n lock that WASN'T a promotion for the business, except for the log.
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Wow, that's odd.
Message I started the thread with isn't here, but the thread still exists.
For those wondering...
I posted a question that I believe I've since found the answer. A new cache was placed and given the name of a business. The contents of the cache are pens & business cards with the name of the business. I was asking if this was against guidelines.
Easy enough, the guidelines state:
Commercial Caches
Commercial caches will not be published on geocaching.com without prior approval from Groundspeak. A commercial cache is a geocache listing or geocache which is perceived by Groundspeak, Groundspeak's employees, or the Volunteer Geocache Reviewers as having been submitted to geocaching.com with the principal or substantial intent of soliciting customers or generating commercial gain. The geocache is presumed to be commercial if the finder is required to go inside a business, interact with employees, and/or purchase a product or service, or if the cache listing has overtones of advertising, marketing, or promotion.
Additionally, links to businesses, commercial advertisers, charities, political or social agendas, or the inclusion of their associated logos are not permitted on cache descriptions without prior permission from Groundspeak.
Which seems pretty clear to me.
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I have entered a park after hours to grab an FTF on many occasions. All of them are valid logs because it is NOT up to GS or a CO to decide when or where I break a law. I will enter a closed park again.
You are the reason that FTF hounds are despised. Why must you make the rest look bad?
Well said.
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[*]The Fisher Space Pen is 10 times the cost of a Sharpie Fine Point Pen on Amazon.
I never knew there was a Sharpie PEN! I will look for one.
Is the Fisher Space Pen worth the money?
Seriously, from what I've heard its an amazing pen.
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NotNotNotNotNotNotNotNotNotNotNotNot!!!!!!!!!!!!Don'tdoit!!!!NotNotNotNotNotNot!!What is the general rule to go by when you log a DNF and then later find out the cache was not even there. Delete or Not Delete DNF log?
Seriously, your DNF log is part of your history, and part of the cache's history. Thanks very much for asking!!
I have had a DNF log deleted by a cache owner, stating that the cache was still there.
It's a "I Did Not Find" log, not a "The Cache Isn't There" log, the owner shouldn't delete a DNF.
(Or maybe there's more to it, and the cache has/had problems!
)I've had a cache owner delete a DNF as well.
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Just to be clear:
I was wondering if you have heard of this happening. I would NEVER do this since I live in a very wet climate. This was my way of probing the geocaching community.
Before or after you take them to your mother ship.
As long as the probe is in an appropriately sized baggie.
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Last month I posted a message with the 40 Things I learned in my first 100 Caches. That discussion went pretty well so I'm back with the sequel:
Things I've learned in my first 250 caches
- Geocaching can ruin shoes, shirts, pants, etc.
- Never leave the GeoPen in the GeoShirt when doing the GeoLaundry.
- I'm starting to add the prefix 'Geo' to words.
- A "1 star" Difficulty cache can be hard.
- A "5 star" Difficulty cache can be relatively easy (rarely).
- Color blindness makes many hides much more difficult.
- I have about a 1-minute search limit on Juniper bush hides.
- I may need to shorten my limit Juniper bush searches.
- My find rate is slowing because I've already hit those that are conventient.
- My find rate is slowing because I'm searching out harder to find caches.
- My find rate is slowing because the sun is setting earlier
- My find rate will slow further when winter hits.
- My find rate is slowing because I'm revisiting previous DNF's.
- There is satisfaction in finding a previous DNF.
- Some cache owners can be very grateful when you replace a baggie and/or log.
- I carry more baggies than a drug dealer.
- Some cache owners won't respond to emails.
- This is a great low-cost sport/hobby.
- I'm spending more on gas.
- I'm spending more on pens.
- I'm spending money on cache supplies.
- I'm spending money on baggies.
- I'm spending more on clothes (see above).
- I carry more baggies than a drug dealer.
- I now have a bag for geocaching 'stuff'.
- Those silly walking sticks are starting to seem like a good idea.
- Some silly walking sticks are EXPEN$IVE.
- The Sharpie Ultra-Fine MARKER is NOT the same thing as the wonderful Sharpie Fine Point PEN.
- The Fisher Space Pen is 10 times the cost of a Sharpie Fine Point Pen on Amazon.
- I sometimes don't recognize our signature when writing on a crumpled, wet, torn log while juggling a container, container lid, GPSr, log, pen and the keys I didn't put back in my pocket when I got out of the car.
- Black nano caps are impossible to find in tall grass after sunset. (We found it the next morning and now have spare nano's in the car.
- I really like some of the magnetic hides.
- I really like hides where the cache owner spent time crafting something different.
- Logs in the wild take 150% of the space they originally took when they are placed.
- Some cache owners expect and prepare for their micro's to have hundreds of visiters.
- A camoflage cloth bag on a cache is a wonderful place for a colony of pincer bugs to live.
- If I don't start paying more attention I'm going to end up with a stick in my eye.
- I detest ultra-simple hides where the CO decided to put it in the highest muggle-traffic location possible.
- Travel bugs that don't fit in a 'regular' cache are a pain to move on.
- I love paperless geocaching because its easy to do impromptu caching.
- I hate paperless geocaching when I'm out of cell range without a pocket caches.
- A cache owner with multiple GPSr's can mistakenly post 'off' coordinates. (Yes, I'm sure.)
- It's awkward to walk up to a FTF opportunity where two cachers have invested considerable minutes in the search and immediately find the cache. (Sorry!)
- Going to grab a First-To-Find can lead to a First-To-DNF.
- There is a lot of trash in this country.
- There are a lot of broken sunglasses and broken pens lying near caches.
- Caching on your lunch break may lead to working in pants with grass stains on them.
- 4-mil baggies are da bomb.
- Sometimes its very hard to find something to write in addition to TFTC.
- Cache owners will sometimes replace muggled caches without reporting the muggle or replacement.
- Lamp post hides are a gateway drug to full fledged Geocaching.
- Geocaching can ruin shoes, shirts, pants, etc.
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Just to let you all know... I posted it as a dnf on the log and the owner has since closed it down and moved it and reopened it. He also has reported the area to be cleaned up and I meanwhile have found the cache. Thanks guys x
All's well that ends well. Glad to hear it.
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10-10-10 is way more significant in another regard. 101010 is the binary representation for 42 which is, of course, the Ultimate Answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, The Universe, and Everything
Best response yet!
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I read through your logs and it appears the cache is in a very high muggle area where the neighbors know there is a cache. It wouldn't surprise me if non-caching neighborhood kids are muggling your TB's and travel coins.
I'd suggest moving your now larger cache to a less visible location where it's easier to swap trackables without being seen.
**edited to fix an autocompleted word that was very wrong.
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I vote for the mods to move this to the off-topic section.
But the thread starter is not a premium member, and so wouldn't see the replies that raise issues with the topic.
If the OP shells out $30 to buy a premium membership, then he can discuss Global Climate Change to his heart's content in the Off Topic Forum.
I doubt any opinions offered on a geocaching website will make any difference. If someone is pushing a 350 CO2 number, which is not based on any scientific research, then this is a religious discussion where no one wins an argument. I'd rather keep the discussion on geocaching.
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This is a maintenance issue to me. How many DNFs does it take for an owner to go check his stash?
I know of CO's who don't seem to have a number. They just assume nothing bad will happen to their caches.
On the flip side I know a couple of CO's who check on caches after I DNF'd and even email them that it wasn't necessary as I hadn't done a thorough search.
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I would like to place this large cache, however I am having some troubles...
...or attach to wildlife in the Elkhart County Parks (permit required). I really need to think "outside the box" so to say... I do not want this cache walking off.
Wouldn't attaching to wildlife make this a moving cache, which is against guidelines?
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I vote for the mods to move this to the off-topic section.
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I'm most mad that he stole this really awesome walking bridge in the middle of nowhere.
Did he dismantle it and haul it away?
SInce it's a walking bridge he OP can probably post an SBA on it. Traveling caches are no longer allowed.
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My dad and I found great spot
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BlueDeuce Posted Aug 25 2010, 08:49 PM
Personally I think you should not request a hint and simply move on to other caches. Try again later once you are ready to tackle it.
Trust me on this, you'll have more pride in your finds. A gimme is not what keeps you caching.
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I just started this in March and have tried to figure things out by what I read in Groundspeak and the logs for a cache. I thought it was totally acceptable to ask for hints. There is a place to put a decrypted hint in the cache description, so hints must be a part of caching. The logs often show that they phoned a friend, got a tip, or contacted OC to get a nudge in the right direction, so I assumed it was an accepted practice.
It's true that you may feel more pride in finding them on your own. Finding them on my own or with a hint is what keeps me caching, not posting DNF's.
I really wasn't asking for a hint from OC. What I found at the cache site was a damaged artificial object and didn't have a container or logsheet. I was asking if that was the real objective or a decoy. Two cachers posted a smiley the day after I was there so I was wondering what they signed.
If two later cachers posted a smiley then I'd assume what you found was not the cache.
As for myself, on several occasions I've sent emails to CO's on cache maintenance issues/questions and never gotten a response back.
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They are all only a year old or less, I have about 4 of them. Should I archive them, or should I leave them, and wait until they get damaged then archive them? I don't want to litter, but at the same time, I hate to remove caches that are still perfectly good. There is no way I can get back here in the future to retrieve them, I have no intention of ever returning to Long Island...ever...again...as long as I live!
What would you do?
My two cents...Archive or get them adopted. There are far too many caches as it is that aren't properly taken care of.
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It would be nice if you could trump a micro with a larger cache. Boy wouldn't that stir things up though.
Something tells me the sound of that idea is better than the reality of it.
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...Within minutes rather than finding the cache I came across 3 dirty needles, copious amounts of broken glass along with empty beer cans and bottles.
I wouldn't even recommend this to CITO as theres just no telling how dangerous it is.
I posted a small DNF log on the cache page in question saying that basically I didn't find it because I didn't want to hang around.
Im not quite sure what else to do tho. Should I report it to some one? If so who? And what do I say?
I wanted to warn people because I normally take my 2 nieces caching with me and I'd hate for any children to find the needles (or anyone for that matter.)
What do I do?
You've walked into a cultural divide within the GeoCaching community.
One group sees dangers as an inherit part of the game...if it's too much for you, don't do it. These individuals tend to enjoy the non-antiseptic nature of the sport.
The second group emphasize the "family" aspect of the sport and feel that certain dangers, at least those at caches with low difficulty ratings, should be noted or addressed in some way.
I fall in the second group and it sounds like you do as well. Depending on the quantity of needles, I would have just posted a note about the needles in the log and left it at that. YMMV.
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I'm sure I'm not the first one to post this, but today I received a half dozen email's from people that sent me a message asking a question that needed a response. However NOT ONE OF THEM included their email address in their message.
I got to thinking about this...
Could it be because you have the word "Wacko" in your username? I mean, if your username CuddlyFluffyBunnyRabbit you might get more email addresses.
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Stages of a multi do not effect saturation, you can have a physical cache a few feet from the stage of a multi, providing the multi stage does not comprise a physical container.
I'm afraid that's not entirely correct. According to the guidelines:
"Cache containers and physical stages should generally be separated by a minimum of 0.1 miles (528 feet or 161 m). "
In other words, any psychical (cache related) thing must be separated by a minimum of 0.1 miles.
Isn't that all saying the same thing (all the bits in bold)?
You have got me confused now. What I said was as long as the stage of a multi is not a physical cache, there is no seperation limit.
You can have a cache sitting right underneath a sign which is used to provide information at a stage of a multi.
Was I wrong?
I read it the same as well. Everybody seems to be in agreement (which is odd around here).
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Rain is not the only hazard that can effect a scrap of paper.
Thin plastic bags are vulnerable to UV Rays, pencils, pens, wind, geocachers, animals, etc.
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Loved the story. I bet you also write good logs.
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We'd start seeing the word "GeoWars" in the forums.
Commercial Caches?
in General geocaching topics
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The Cache name, to the letter, is the name of the business.