Ecylram
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I'm usually quite blunt in my NM logs. If a CO sees that as offensive, then that's their problem.
Do you see it as unacceptable burden to soften your message for someone who doesn' t know you and doesn't have any visual or vocal cue's to work from?
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Can anyone advise me on the etiquette on for needs maintenance in caches? A friend told me it was common courtesy to not actually put it in the cache logs, because that was "calling out" the CO, so that is what I have followed because I wouldn't want it done to me. Instead if I found it, log it as found and then note the condition it was in if necessary and if it was just an issue of a full log, add more paper, etc to hold it over until the CO could get to it.
Last week a friend and I went out and I emailed two CO and both were receptive to my emails and responded in a positive manner. I later went out and found a cache which was strewn here and yonder and the container looked like it had been run over with a lawn mower. When I emailed the CO, I got a short response about not emailing them directly because it was "unsolicited" and to just log it and they'd get to it "eventually."
Honestly, I was a bit taken aback by this because I was trying to give them a head's up, but am I going about it the wrong way? Should I not be emailing the CO directly and instead just submit a log and be done with it? I've never had an issue where someone has responded negatively, but again, I'm still fairly new at the game. I just try to do as I would like to have done to me, and if something I put effort into getting out there needs fixed, I would want to know directly so I can get to it.
Thanks folks!
Lot of different ways to play it. It's good that you're making an effort to alert the CO that there is an issue.
For myself, minor stuff I'll just include in the found log. More significant items, such as this busted container I'll usually file an NM. This is a courtesy not only for the CO but also for following cachers.
As for the CO's response...you can't please everybody, just try to do the right thing.
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I certainly don't see anything on the Facebook page or in the article that would indicate any intention to try banning Geocaching.
Agreed. If anything, the Sheriff's department response was better than you'd expect considering the circumstances.
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I find all sorts of things offensive...but I don't feel I have a right to be protected from being offended. Such is life.
However, I do believe that family oriented activities ought to be able to remain family oriented and I also believe that certain 'things' are not appropriate for certain ages.
As for the cacher names in question, I can't comment without knowing the names. I might find some of the ones in question perfectly acceptable, in my subjective opinion.
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By the middle of page 4 I caught myself wishing for the very first time that I wish a thread would get locked...
and I thought the above after OP.
If the op has his way I am glad that I installed Better facebook. Doesn't anyone use ICQ anymore?
I prefer Alpacas to Llamas. It's because they don't remind me of Lorenzo Lamas.
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Just because nobody's complained doesn't mean nobody's noticed. There's some hiders who I just expect the coords to be much further off than I'd expect to see from anyone else, and I just keep my mouth shut to keep the peace. I suspect if you were in my area, you'd be one of those people.
I have used the last three models and they all work as accurately as my Oregon450 or my eTrex VistaHCx. The only difference I find is the refresh rate on the iPhone is slower than a handheld GPSr. I have placed at least ten caches with my iPhone3GS and I haven't had any complaints. I just keep using waypoint averaging for any cache I place.Do everyone a favor and DON'T take readings with an iphone!
Since you think your phone works just fine because nobody's complained, maybe I should do cachers around here a favor and start fussing about lousy coords. When they come to me wondering what's up, I'll tell 'em to thank you. How's that sound?
I cache with an iPhone 4. My wife uses an iPhone 3gs.
I would NEVER use a 3gs to determine coordinates for a cache placement. I use an Oregon 450t.
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Dont you hate it when there are those one or two cachers that go out and place hundreds of geocaches, all IDENTICAL from the last? Here in Colorado Springs, there were lots of fantastic caches and lots of places to still be used for brilliant multis and puzzles to be placed, and now there are hardly any spaces available from a few cachers placing the typical "Camo Micro." Are there people that do this anywhere else? Does it annoy anyone else??
A few days ago I asked here why someone would want to place 100's of similar caches, as the log entries would be rather dull. The two best responses were that it was someone wanting to say they've placed XXX caches (numbers) and that people place what they like to find. I don't see the joy in placing 100's of identical caches as it seems the thrill would wear off after 20 or 30.
As for saturation, here are some comparable numbers:
Within 10 miles of Colorado Springs (on 5/26): 1846 caches
Within 10 miles of downtown Denver (6/15): 2412
Within 10 miles of my house (6/15): 2704
The highest density I'm aware of is a spot east of San Diego that has over 3000 caches within 10 miles.
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My opinion has evolved as I've gained more experience...
I'd say if the owner is no longer maintaining the cache then post a Needs Archive. Once it's archived, you can place your own well-maintained cache.
CAVEAT: I do make a personal exception for 'historic' caches. If the cache is old, 2000-2004ish (and doesn't suck), I'd have no qualms performing maintenance.
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It wouldn't bother me a bit. My concern is the bored teenager playing with his new phone and loading a free geocaching app then deciding to grab or destroy that "cool thing" I placed by his house.
A basic member who can find a premium cache is not a bigger risk to my caches than a premium member.
Don't forget, I pay a price for my choice. I get less find notices because of the premium tag and I LIKE Finds on my caches.
It isn't a 'snob' thing, its just an unfortunate reality of placing 'cool' caches in my area.
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If there were no premium caches, I would not have placed some of my caches. I'm not going to spend over $100 to see it muggled in three weeks.
In our area, Premium caches last longer.
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As I recall, you're the only cacher in your family. Which means family members could get bored waiting for you.
I'd suggest doing a cache on a route PQ that only shows caches within .2 miles of the highway, with no more than a 1.5\1.5 and have been found in the last seven days. You'll have near 100% success and won't keep family waiting. On a long trip you'll still have a large number of caches to choose from.
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There is hardly a caching trip where I don't get injured.
Scrapped a knuckle today and my wife is wondering where a deep scratch on the back of my arm came from. Fortunately, no marital problems yet due to caching injuries.
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Now I feel stupid, what if someone from my area comes on and sees my list of containers and me bragging about my cache?!
:oThey'll think "Great!!, we finally got somebody new who puts out interesting caches instead of FC's under rocks!"
Puzzle cache freaks will be thrilled another another cacher is placing non-traditional caches. It's all good!
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From the logs:
Well done young Jacob, this was a most interesting cache, coordinates were perfect, containers were varied, lay out was good. You deserve a favorite point for this one.Congratulations Jacob! I'm glad to see you haven't given up!
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The problem, as I see it, is not with premium only caches or premium memberships. It's with the elitist attitude that sometimes gets expressed.
I can't say I've ever noticed an elitist attitude I could attribute to a Premium membership. From those with more or different kind of experience? Sure.
It's all "Premium Envy" anyway. :-)
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I remember when I was ONLY a platinum member. Glad I don't have to go back.
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How far away from the boundary do I need to be.
Sounds like you're asking the wrong people. That's a local question probably best directed to the area reviewer.
On the subject...
Things have gotten a bit dicey for cache owners near Denver International Airport the last few months as well. This event happened in April.
Denver Police, three officers in SUV's, asked me to log a very important message for all cachers around the DIA area. After being detained, fingers laced behind head, legs spread, frisked, and ID checked, I explained geocaching to them; they said what with terrorists it isn't wise to be doing this kind of suspicious looking activity around an airport. They seemed particularly concerned about Irondale Rd (88th), 96th Ave, Quency, 112th Ave, and 114th Ave, so I will post this message on those caches on those roads. Also they wanted me to log that trespassing on DIA property is against the law. Live Wire 77 and I out finding 44 caches in the rural area north of DIA. My appreciation for the officers doing their job in a professional manner. Mice have made their home in and around the container, do not handle with bare hands. tftc slSince that event several caches that border the Airport property, but aren't on it, have been archived. I should note that the cache mentioned here was NOT on DIA property and that was confirmed.
Since DIA encompasses 54 square miles, that a lot of frontage road where it's unwise to place caches. Also, last year some (once county) roads near the airport got huge "Do Not Trespass" signs causing some caches to be archived as well.
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One question the OP asked still hasn't been addressed: The nice, small state of Florida has 4 Reviewers. Why in Gaia's name does a state the size of Texas only have one? It can't be for lack of willing bodies. There's not a week goes by when someone mentions they'd like the job. It can't be because Groundspeak thinks one is enough. How many Texas Reviewer complaints do we see in here as opposed to Georgia complaints, Montana complaints, etc? Can't help but wonder what the real reason is. Does PR have Signal's cousin locked away in a cellar somewhere, with threats to cook his legs if another Reviewer shows up? I know some frogs are territorial, but are Reviewers the same way? Inquiring minds want to know.
I saw in a thread once where a Texas reviewer threatened to quit if another reviewer was allowed in the State. I just thought that was a joke, but now I question it. You know that reviewer has to be in the "inner circle" of Groundspeak. From the looks of his reviewer page I would dare to guess that he is the Cult Leader of the Frogs.
As I recall, the last time the Texas Reviewer came up Keystone took at look at his 'backlog' and noted it was in line with other areas that have more reviewers.
I suspect much of the kvetching is little more than idle gossip that gets passed back and forth among a small group of vocal cachers.
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The top 100 most favorited ACTIVE caches in the US:
Rank / Code / Cache
1 GCGV0P Original Stash Tribute Plaque
2 GCK25B Groundspeak Headquarters
3 GCE02C VIEW CARRE '
4 GC30 Mingo
5 GCW6EM DR. Who.
6 GCK12J Last stop for a weary traveler
7 GC729A Welcome to Las Vegas
8 GCEB2 The view of an Honest Man
9 GC10FB Magic Kingdom
10 GC92 Un-Original Stash
11 GC28 Beverly
12 GC2J17A 001-Route 66
13 GCJZDR Cloud Gate aka The Bean
14 GC2B034 Necropolis of Britannia Manor III
15 GC79 Iron Horse
16 GCQ596 A Special Memory
17 GC2K6TW 800-Route 66
18 GC3334 Animal Kingdom
19 GC1MDCE Jolly Green Giant
20 GC7ED St. Louis Arch Virtual Cache
21 GCG71X Cadillac Ranch
22 GCP9G9 Totally Tubular III
23 GC4D7F The Empire Strikes Back
24 GC25E1 So We Will Remember Them
25 GC30CB Sounds of the Bay
26 GCB6A8 Barney Smith's Toilet Seat Museum
27 GC39 The Spot
28 GC64F7 Standin on the corner....
29 GCC859 The Stop and Go,Go,Go Cache
30 GC15RQB A Cool Cache
31 GC10HZW Old Faithful Geyser at Yellowstone National Park
32 GC4E95 LAKE-VEGAS
33 GC2657 I can see Lincoln
34 GC2C32 USA, all the way South
35 GCF7A2 Escape From Alcatraz
36 GC3336 EPCOT
37 GCDE1 Capitol View
38 GC6D43 What in the World Cache?
39 GC37 Missouri's First - Watts Mill
40 GC18 Tarryall
41 GCGFHX Marie Laveau, Voodoo Queen
42 GCNYKE Totally Tubular II
43 GC3798 Covert Cache
44 GC2E52 Mile Zero
45 GC10ACW Bridal Veil Falls
46 GC4B24 WD's Original
47 GCK08Z Union Square
48 GC7B09 Mall of America Cache III
49 GC8FBF Stone Faced
50 GC11HRQ Trolls Lair
51 GC9D67 Eiffel Tower
52 GCZW2C Excalibur
53 GCBD0A Laughing Sal's
54 GCEC8 Green Thumb
55 GC31DE The Depot
56 GCH657 Don't Drink the Water
57 GC1G3TR Aloha TB Hotel
58 GC12F8M Snug as a Bug in Central Park
59 GC24H25 Double Bubble Toil & Trouble
60 GC17MX1 Bridges & Arches of Central Park
61 GCNDTN Totally Tubular!
62 GCHH18 13 days in 30 seconds
63 GC253ZN Head Alien #01
64 GC1901 Astoria Column
65 GC62 Tombstone
66 GC2D78C Pinky In The Whitehouse
67 GCJ067 The 4 Corners Cache
68 GC3338 Hollywood Studios
69 GCD03B The Summer House
70 GC11C2 FDR Memorial
71 GC27N0W The Sword In The Stone
72 GC1B64 Everything is Relative
73 GC1R2JW spicket
74 GC62C8 Kerry Viewpoint Park
75 GC3710 The Grassy Knoll
76 GC5165 ORD Layover
77 GC2D54 Sheldon Ruins
78 GC57 Geocache
79 GC1KT61 Shelrik's Happy Cache Inn (For TB's & GC's)
80 GC4CE1 MM MM Good
81 GCTGF0 Geo MoJo #6 in the Shadow of the TITANS
82 GCKGRZ Reiff's Gas Station
83 GCFF01 The Presidential Suite
84 GCB0EB Toga Party
85 GC202RG 49 AND HOLDING THE CACHE A GOLD MINER'S DELIGHT
86 GC1375B Full of Hot Air!
87 GCQV5H Hawaii Volcanoes N.P. - Rain Forest & Lava Tube
88 GCE0D5 Camp Nasty
89 GCB57D Dawn of Aviation
90 GCHQMX Bryce Canyon National Park- Inspiration Point
91 GC1D Beaver Cache
92 GC12 GC12 5/12/2000
93 GC128 The Fort Williams Cache
94 GC70 Octopus Garden
95 GC1MVYP FLORIDA GEOCAC BENCHMARK PROJECT
96 GCCCC7 STOP AND GO,GO,GO, 3
97 GCA5B4 Magic of the Music
98 GC9165 I-90, Wild Stallions Ride Again
99 GC908D Solar Sailing
100 GC2018 Tristate Marker
100 GC9E NH #1 - Mines Follies
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According to one poster upthread I don't cache enough, so it shouldn't be a problem.
If I follow your logic, that 'poster' (which you called a 'stalker' earlier) is me. My point was that you grab two caches a month and facebook integration saves you all of about 2 minutes of month. It seems a bit overblown, to put it mildly, to get so upset over something that has such little impact on your life. Same can be said about an iPad version of the Groundspeak app.
Regarding the Geocaching app...my theory, based on nothing but hope, is that the new database structure is a first step in allowing moving cache maps in a future app, ala Zillow. (The old database wasn't conducive to this feature.) If that is the case, then Groundspeak would be foolish to rebuild an app for the iPad when those resources could go toward developing the new version of the app.
If if my hope (pipe dream) isn't true, Groundspeak is making major changes coming such as an additional size option, and the addition of favorites in the PQ's. The official app will need to be adjusted for the new features, so development is continuing, but we won't see the results until August (based on the current announced schedule).
FWIW, based on your comments and usage I don't think you benefit much from a Premium membership or a paid app.
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I'm not protesting. I wish they'd kept the cache alive, but "that is life".
I think it's time a new promotion that tops the "Ape" caches gets unleashed. Though a tie-in with the "Hangover" movie franchise might not be the wisest decision.
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Geocaching has made it abundantly clear, in the past, that once the APE Cache container has disappeared, the cache must be archived. To replace this one would be the ultimate hypocrisy.
Moun10bike is the cache owner. If he wishes to replace the cache, I believe he should have the option of replacing the cache...just as any other cacher would have.
Personally, I hope Moun10Bike chooses to replace the cache container. This is a historic cache that deserves to remain active. (Now if he replaces the container with a film canister, we reserve the right to kick his behind.)
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You've grabbed 11 caches in the last six months . . .
Bad Ecylram! Bad!
It's not about the numbers!
LOL!!!
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You've grabbed 11 caches in the last six months and Facebook integration is your primary concern?
Stalk much?
Deflect much?
I found your rather strong reaction to the lack of Facebook integration to be a bit odd. To better understand, I looked to see what about your caching would prompt that response. I was more puzzled after I looked as your two cache a month habit.
Since it takes less than a minute to post a link in Facebook, I'm a bit perplexed by the angst. A link would save you less than two minutes a month even if you posted every find. That is far less time than you've spent complaining about the lack of integration. It's probably less time than you spent writing your first post on the subject.
Frankly, Facebook integration seems rather immaterial at your level of usage...it isn't exactly a lifechanger.
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Teacher Discounts on Premium Memberships
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Not to be sourpuss but...why should a teacher get a discount?