infiniteMPG

I am the owner of the ones in question and I can proudly say I do not now, nor do I plan on ever, owning a LPC I wouldn't do the archive and re-hide unless I could make it a totally new challenge for people who had previously found it. I have done this when some of my camo went missing and the replacement was a step up from the original so I archived and re-hid to let people who found it get challenged with the new (better) camo. One thing I can think of possibly being a quirk is if a cache was hidden and grandfathered, when it gets archived and the new one submitted, if there are different restrictions in place the new one might get declined but the grandfathered one is gone. Guess it could be un-archived by request but still a pain. Guess that's the risk in it.

These aren't rural caches, mostly urban caches, maybe at a small park or something like that but nothing that would take a long hike or bike to get to. I wouldn't make someone hike miles to snag a find on something near one they found a few years ago. I know I probably wouldn't do that unless there was some other reason to be there. The /\/\/\/\/\/ I do out of laziness. When I get on a main listing page it's incredibly easy to scroll down and find my post laziness is the mother on invention.

Our local area is pretty saturated and I can see this happening in other areas where there is a good foundation of active geocachers. After a while you (and the other locals) have pretty much wiped up all the unfound caches so in order to spend a little time caching you need to travel out of your local community area. Question is what everyone thinks about (or does anyone do this) taking some of your local hides, tweaking them via technique, camo or exact location, then archiving the old cache and list a similar but new cache to keep some local challenges for the local cachers? Just tiring of looking at my PQ of caches within my local mountain biking vicinity and seeing hundreds of found caches and occasionally one or two unfound popping up. Almost look forward to needing to maintenance so I have a reason to bike. Thanks!

I wasn't using the string style lanyard, I was using a wide lanyard with a spring loaded clip. Never trusted the string too much. Guess I have to now.... thanks.

I have a good old Garmin MAP60CSx and I always kept a lanyard attached to the little hoop beside the antenna so if it ever came out of my belt clip I would still be attached to me. The other day it slipped from my hand and when it snapped down on the clip, the clip tore thru the small rubber section of the GPSr. Now it has a break in the rubber and I can't see any easy way to fix this. Have my connection in the metal battery clip on the back but this doesn't sit good in a belt clip. Anyone have a way to REPAIR the hanger clip on the GPSr? All help greatly appreciated.

Still waiting.... still twiddling.... still no reply except the canned auto reply saying "Thank you for contacting Groundspeak. We've received your message and it will be reviewed shortly." Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Sitting at desk twiddling thumbs waiting for Groundspeak reply to email.... ::yawn::

Actually I would of thought the bacon tangent would of gathered more readers... And repeatedly having a simple solution to a problem constantly skipped over can cause flooding... some people blame the dynamite, other's blame the fuse. Just sent a nice long diplomatic email to contact@geocaching.com on this simple little resolution and if I get a good reply then it will be nice, if I get some canned response then I'll start to think GC is starting to head down the profit path more then people path. That path usually leads to a pretty dark place if not balanced with a lot of consideration for who is playing and paying.

I think I'll just KEEP POSTING THIS UNTIL SOMEONE ANSWERS WHY GC WON'T JUST ADD SOME EXPLANATION TO WHAT THE LIKE BUTTON DOES...... NOTE: Clicking the LIKE button will add a link to this geocache page on your Facebook home page. This is not a cache rating system. Is it THAT hard to try to explain to people what they'd be doing since many people who geocache and Facebook are NOT computer literate? It's amazing how EXPLAINING to people and TEACHING them helps EDUCATE them so they make the RIGHT decisions to suit their goals.... and not obscurely clicking on things because they "look" like something they're not. Still say no matter how you slice the LIKE button, it smells, sounds and quacks like a rating system. De-ja-vu???? Yup. Until someone answers why NO EXPLANATION is provided by GC for what that obscure, cache-rating-system-looking LIKE button does I'll just keep copying and pasting

Riddle me this.... why not add an explanation to the LIKE button so people know what they're doing???? NOTE: Clicking the LIKE button will add a link to this geocache page on your Facebook home page. This is not a cache rating system. Is it THAT hard to try to explain to people what they'd be doing since many people who geocache and Facebook are NOT computer literate? It's amazing how EXPLAINING to people and TEACHING them helps EDUCATE them so they make the RIGHT decisions to suit their goals.... and not obscurely clicking on things because they "look" like something they're not. Still say no matter how you slice the LIKE button, it smells, sounds and quacks like a rating system. And the bacon caches look cool but I still think the mighty meat needs more honoring (and reading this thread makes me hungry)

That's one way to keep people from clicking on the "LIKE" button... I can smell a bacon cache in the works.... LOL

You can never go too far off topic with bacon.... Okay, well, maybe you can....

That was classic.... but sometimes world peace just needs the right weapons

Not me.... ::burp::

Mmmmm, bacon. Can't go wrong with bacon. Mmmmm, gewd....

Mmmm, popcorn.... I like the local theater here, I can have a Newcastle with my popcorn

Don't really care if people like or dislike Facebook, what I *DO* care about is be clear and concise about what people are actually doing when they click on things and not misleading them. I'll go back to my idea (that got no responses) about adding a little explanation to the GC page stuff : NOTE: Clicking the LIKE button will add a link to this geocache page on your Facebook home page. This is not a cache rating system. What's the problem with TELLING people what the link does and then let them decide if they want to use it or not???? I could put this icon on a webpage... And then when people click on it, it's destroys their computer and all I have to do is say "It's the Format icon, why did you click on it?" Just tell people what they're doing when they click on your link.... just common sense and the considerate thing to do. And as a side note, MANY people I know who are on GC site have a tough time figuring out how a GPSr works and still cache by printing out hard copies as they haven't a clue about paperless caching, PQ's or PDAs. They are pretty techie illiterate. Same kind of goes for a lot of people on Facebook. They have just enough knowledge to be dangerous... it would only help to try to educate them as to what they're doing BEFORE they do it. Thought that was why the new intro video was posted on the main GC page. To EDUCATE people. Might help to do the same with this Facebook connection. Don't just throw some obscure icon that looks, smells and quacks like a rating system in front of people.

In HTML code you can add text around anything you want... just putting a note of text under the Facebook controlled content wouldn't do anything....except clear up all the confusion and explain to people what happens when they click the LIKE button. Unless of course you don't want people to know what they're doing. NOTE: Clicking the LIKE button will add a link to this geocache page on your Facebook home page. This is not a cache rating system. Is it THAT dang hard to do?????

Double post.... ::sigh::

Read my post above, maybe reply to why GC doesn't just change the text THEY put with the button and fix the whole misunderstanding. Might be a lot of positives from IT if people know what IT does when they click IT, and knowing it's NOT a rating system would clear up a bunch of stuff, too. It's looks like a rating system, quacks like a rating system, so doesn't matter WHAT it does behind the scenes, people will look at it as a rating system.... until the text is changed. And the change should take a crew of as many as one web authors as many as one minutes to change it.

Maybe the "off topic" topic is the more important one. And I never once knocked FB as I am on there as much, if not more, then I am GC. Regardless of what it's being misinterpreted as, it's not clearly explained and it's misleading. I doubt the text "Be the first of your friends to like this." came from Facebook, it came from GC web authors. Change that to say "Click here to add a link to this cache on your Facebook page" and you'd have the problem solved. Just find this element in your code : <span class="connect_widget_not_connected_text">Be the first of your friends to like this.</span> and change it to this : <span class="connect_widget_not_connected_text">Click here to add a link to this cache on your Facebook page.</span> and you're done. Is that too much to ask?????

Has anyone at GC taken the time to LOOK at what's on the cache listing pages? It does NOT say "Click here to add a link to this page on your Facebook page".... it says "Be the first of your friends to like this." and other then the little blue F for Facebook, it says NOTHING about Facebook. It just simply asks you to be the first person to "LIKE" this. There is no explanation of what the button does and even if you're one of the bazillion people on Facebook, chances are 99.9% of the people do NOT know what clicking that button DOES. You have added a button that adds a link to someone's Facebook page withOUT telling people what that button DOES. If not for this thread I wouldn't know what it does and I've been on GC and FB for ages, but then again we engineering/IT manager types must be too out of touch to not realize that without explanation. It says "Be the first of your friends to like this.".... and you expect your run-of-the-mill cacher/Facebooker to KNOW that it's NOT a rating system?????????? PUH-lease. It appears to be a shameless and somewhat devious way to promote GC on people's FB pages without even letting people know that's what they're doing. Facebook sneaks little promotion things onto people pages, sends friend requests without you even knowing it was sent, steals your photos from your personal albums to add to it's web content, does all kinds of devious underhanded things to self-promote. Was kind of hoping GC was above that. Tich-tich-tich....

Would answer a lot of issues if the LIKE button were converted to a LINK button instead. When it all comes down to it that is what seems to be the point of contention. Like in my earlier post, you may want to link a GC page for negative reasons but you'd have to LIKE it to do that. Duh.... I think I'll create a BLOWS CHUNKS button on my FB account. Of course it will mean that something is so great that it can't be contained by it's current web restraints and spills over discharging wonderful pieces of itself to all corners of the internet.... ::sarcasm break here::

Okay, I assume then that when I did my testing, I was still logged into Facebook even though I was logged out of GC. Misunderstanding on my part and I checked and that's true. I understand it's not a rating system as LIKE is a FB term, but if some site used S*CKS to mean that a site pulls people in and it's a good thing, most people would still look at S*CKS as a negative thing regardless of the actual purpose. If I wanted to link a GC to FB because the listing was ridiculous and full of typing errors, the coords were off and the location was terrible, I would have to do a LIKE which would still imply to people that I LIKE it. To a cache owner who had dozens of caches raided and all the trackables and coins stolen until I made them all Premium Member Only caches YES.... it matters a LOT!