wandat24

ok never mind it didn't work.. to see where it all started go here it's down close to the bottom starts with Not to mention that in the first pic you can see other spots where dirt has been removed, and in the second pic you can see the can isn't in the spot that the other dirt was removed

The reason I started this thread was to take it away from the CCC forum. What I seen was someone (as it was mentioned in the thread) was "hijacking" it to argue and complain about a cache that was well hidden. I'm trying to make it clear that the hider found the hole (as the hider stated) and that should of been the end of the story.... But, instead they kept going on and on about it. I felt that if we (as I am actually enjoying hearing Adrenalynn's points on it) were going to continue the discussion we should move it away from where it didn't belong. It was later stated that it wasn't a perfect fit....

It'll be hard toget ya up to par on this, this is continued from the CCC forum. Adrenalynn Was saying that one cache should be archived 'cause a pointy object was used to make the hole. The owner of the cache did state it was bigger then the ammo can, bnut took advantage of a good hiding spot. I'm trying to point out that even though it's not up to "specs" (if you will) doesn't mean that the school students wasn't taking dirt, soil or what have ya, samples. Because MY class used the square headed shovels to make the holes we go our dirt from. edited for spelling, bet I didn't get them all!

We was NEVER told that we was going to take soil samples. We was told that we was going out back the school to dig a few holes to get some dirt that we can play with, err ummm test.

heheheh be sure to add a soda and some candy with it

hmmm cause it was off topic to the thread it was in, but wasn't sure where to put it?

He looks to be a bit of a mix bread (maybe a mutt, but those are the best). I have learned that mix breads learn faster then a full blood of anything (well Labs are VERY good at learning... then again I'm partcail to them anyways...). On the stay we use to get those little snips for treats and every time King stayed he got one. Also helps if the kidos help out with alot of it. Dogs LOVE kids (well most the time and you said he was warming up). On the UPS thingy, we have 3 guys that comes to this little podunk town. One comes between 8 and 11 in the morning, one comes between 3 and 7 of the eve and the third comes when ever he feels like it. I got my TBs and stuff early eve and my hubby didn't get his computer stuff till after he left for work, at about 6pm. Ours depends if it was taken to Vinita from Joplin or Tulsa..... Now if it was the same guy then I bet it was just an overlook, or the dog did bribe him.......

Is it when she sets it up and they try to verify it, when it says it's invalid? I am guessing that's what it is... Many bussinesses have a way of setting it up where certain e-mails are rejected to help reduce sam on the networks so that they won't get bogged down as much. Is she allowed to get forwards of any kind? I would bet most she can't, but few she can. At first I was thinking it was the "." in her e-mail but mine has it. "wandat.jerryt" It works without any problems at all. However it wasn't my original e-mail addy... you might consider helping her out by setting up a "fake" e-mail addy for her, having her use it to register (can't remember if you have to validate the account in the e-mail account or not, but surely you can help with that as well). Then once her account is set up she can go into her account information and try changing it in there to her e-mail addy at work....... Then again I also am wondering if it's a letter of her last name causing it.... If so, I can't think of anything to help get around it, short of contacting someone in charge of the website and seeing if they can help out by allowing it. Other then this, I can't think of any other way she could do it without going somewhere to use a public or a friend's computer.

I've thought of something similar... I've been thinking about taking a lot and making a fruit bowl (or buying one already put together), and then taking it out into the middle of nowhere and place it at the bottom of a tree. In fact really wanting to do something like this with one cache I'm fixing to adopt.

This is what I'm really trying to point out. I know how all the different core and soil samples are taken when being used in a professional lab or in a college lab. Then I also know how a good teacher doesn't care about the grade of a sample (s)he just cares that they're getting hand on stuff. For someone to just assume another person is lying and then keeps on and on about how wrong they are is just wrong in it self.

Let me start by saying, I'm not really trying to start anything with this I just have a few questions of my own. Ok, scavok said a School team took the soil samples... How do you know they are not in standards that a lab would use?? I remember doing stuff like this in my Earth Science and we went out and just dug holes (many times not placing the dirt back) with regular shovels we found in the Ag building. MANY of these holes we in fact square, due to the Ag guys liking those square headed shovels and due to the fact we wasn't sending them off to a lab we was testing them in class. If you would read more carefully you would understand that a School team did it, and then common sense would tell ya that it could be a smart teacher doing a hands on experiment. As for me say a troll, as I'm sure many people here already know, a troll can be someone rooting around in a thread/forum looking for a way to start trouble. Now, sad as it might be, I am one that like trolls and take the "bait" almost all the time. Not to really start trouble myself, but to put my 2bits worth in and to make clear what I would otherwise leave up to the reader to decide what it means. So, as I said before, I don't see an issue to keep going on and on about. The reviewer didn't care, which it's THEIR "Jobs" to care, so what is the point to all this????? Edited to add:: what does the Post amount matter, and I doubt you spend as much time "researching" on this site as I do.. and as i have decided myself the amount of finds don't much matter to how well you understand this hobby Soil samples need equal amounts of soil at each layer. But I wouldn't really know, I only sign-off on a few hundred a day during certain months... When I go out to the university Ag sites here, I see 30 or so for every few acres, every single one of them cored with a coring tool. I would like to see ONE legitimate example of a hole dug with a shovel by a university (not a backyard Gardener)that was a soil sample and that would _exactly_ fit a 30cal ammo can. 'Cause I call BS. Until then, I stand by "gullible" [edited to add: If he shows a photo of them coring with a shovel, and a dozen or so identical holes with slices missing from them (remember, the slice would have to go in for analysis), then I'll also accept that. Otherwise, he's just BSing to keep from having a buried cache archived...] I can go for that, but my classes was in high school and we did it pretty much for fun and to waste time, our teacher was concerned with the exactness of anything, so it could still be a school thing, wouldn't you agree? I'll be headed off to bed soon, it's almost 2.30 (2.17) here in OKla lol. Will continue tomorrow

Let me start by saying, I'm not really trying to start anything with this I just have a few questions of my own. Ok, scavok said a School team took the soil samples... How do you know they are not in standards that a lab would use?? I remember doing stuff like this in my Earth Science and we went out and just dug holes (many times not placing the dirt back) with regular shovels we found in the Ag building. MANY of these holes were in fact square, due to the Ag guys liking those square headed shovels and due to the fact we wasn't sending them off to a lab we was testing them in class. If you would read more carefully you would understand that a School team did it, and then common sense would tell ya that it could be a smart teacher doing a hands on experiment. As for me say a troll, as I’m sure many people here already know, a troll can be someone rooting around in a thread/forum looking for a way to start trouble. Now, sad as it might be, I am one that like trolls and take the "bait" almost all the time. Not to really start trouble myself, but to put my 2bits worth in and to make clear what I would otherwise leave up to the reader to decide what it means. So, as I said before, I don't see an issue to keep going on and on about. The reviewer didn't care, which it's THEIR "Jobs" to care, so what is the point to all this????? Edited to add:: what does the Post amount matter, and I doubt you spend as much time "researching" on this site as I do.. and as i have decided myself the amount of finds don't much matter to how well you understand this hobby

hmm lets see Member Since Wednesday, January 18, 2006 for you, Member Since Sunday, February 06, 2005.... HMMM yeah ok.... I am starting a new post, because like it was said before we shouldn't hijack this one.. If you are so sure you want to keep going you will find me on a topic of Continued from CCC, but since it is a bit Off Topic It'll be under the off topic, with any luck it won't get shut down.... I like making my points clear and like seeing other's opinions on my opinions.. may give me a few moments to get it done though....

Not necessarilly. Judging by the comments I'd say a pointy-object was used to collect soil samples. Then a clever cacher took advantage of an existing hole. It's all a matter of semantics. Very kewl camo! Ok, let's take that to another level. If I brought out our new cute little Bobcat and excavated your front yard about 24" deep, then dumped it in my back yard, it'd be ok, right? It's just semantics, after all. I wasn't really tearing up your yard - I was cleverly re-landscaping mine. Maybe i'm not the only one who can't connect the two? I did just use a hole that was left there, in fact there are many of the holes around there, I have to disable the cache occasionally because the school goes out to make collections and don't always 'replace their divots'. Sheesh, I was looking for a place to hide the ammo can, saw a hole that it would actually fit in, just set the thing in it and put some dead grass on top. I told the reviewer what it was and it was okay'd. Simply put I didn't use a pointy object to dig a hole for the purpose of hiding the cache and the cache is not buried. It hid well so I thought I'd share it. There is nothing wrong with it, if you don't like it thats fine, we're all entitled to our opinion. But don't go and say it should be archived, isn't allowed, breaks the rules, yada yada; because it simply isn't true. Put VERY well! From what I have gathered (and I bet I get alot of sh!t on this one) is we have a newer person trying their best to be a troll...unless it's a newr id....

Not necessarilly. Judging by the comments I'd say a pointy-object was used to collect soil samples. Then a clever cacher took advantage of an existing hole. It's all a matter of semantics. Very kewl camo! Ok, let's take that to another level. If I brought out our new cute little Bobcat and excavated your front yard about 24" deep, then dumped it in my back yard, it'd be ok, right? It's just semantics, after all. I wasn't really tearing up your yard - I was cleverly re-landscaping mine. How ever much I'd like this idea, it's NOT the same thing. If the placer didn't make the hole, I don't see an issue to keep going on and on about... Do you really?

I've been lucky in the way of getting hurt... Really amazing though...For some reason or another we have a habit of going after ones on the other side of thorn "forests". The most I've ever gotten is a sprang ankle getting down off a fallen tree I didn't have to climb....the was you didn't have to go into the bottom of the river bed, look up.... well I get there and yeah you guessed it I looked up and seen the end of the tree had a spot something could be in/on NOPE wasn't there!!! Anywho I also stepped wrong once and it didn't help my back very much (the Weds before Christmas I pulled a strained mussel and it still acts up when I move oddly). Other then that just a few scratches (gonna have a few scars from some on my arm ) but I don't mind "war" scares, ya ought to see the ones I've gotten from climbing through fences! lol

I'm trying to figure out how the two sections above work together??? What help is it if it's in Spanish? That's as bad as a "e-mail me", you can't do anything with it in the field. I think it could be interesting. How ever it'd be frustrating *Note to self pick up a pocket translator before trying very many out of state caches*. My husband and I are planning a trip to London for our 10th anniversary next year (lol may have to wait for the 11th). I mentioned to him that some of the ones over seas may not be in English, he said he wasn't too worried about it. He's a computer nut and has learned to "speak" C++ in just under 2 weeks. He said just before we head out he'll just pick up a learning book for French to English and maybe a couple of other languages. Not relevant for this thread, I know..... Just rambling.....

if you can find a place where you can put them upside down it works better i have noticed, where they don't get wet (or as wet), but then you have to worry about the ones (cachers) that look for it then just stick it back in place the way they found them.

I haven't ever used one for a cache yet, but speaker mags are pretty good. I use to use them to hold all kinds of things together and to stuff...Also have you ever used a fishtank clener? THose little mags are amazing, but I don't think it'd really work very well, unless you can use both....

Incorrect. A quote from my local forum: "Nick Simulia, National Marketing Manager, at the Cracker Barrel Corporate office in Lebanon, TN has no problem with caches placed at the restaurants as long as you don't "alter" anything when you place it. He actually told me to place the caches before I had a chance to ask. I think he'll approve caches at any of the CBs and a call is probably not necessary judging by his eagerness for me to place caches here." I have his contact information if anyone wanted to contact him, rather than just post it all up here. Therefore, central management has given "general" permission, but local reviewers will still want local managament to approve the cache. They are nearly always placed with permission. Some do get turned down by the local CB manager. I did not place one for that reason, even with the "global" approval. I stand corrected then. But by Maingray, never by Sbell111 . I'm glad to see that that corporate offices were contacted, I am very impressed. I'm wondering if this action was taken after other geocachers expressed the same concerns I did? Of course local management should be infomed, although I'm convinced it doesn't happen in many cases. If a waiter/waitress or manager noticed someone acting like a weirdo on the porch, I highly doubt their first action would be to call corporate Again, I'm highly impressed. Now if someone really wants to make my day, they can tell me they've contacted Wal-Mart corporate HQ, and have blanket permission for lamp post micros I've thought about this...I drove in front of the HQ in Bentonville the other day. I was wondering if anyone had ever visited with any of Mr. Walton's family....Then decided that they'd just turn me away as a nut job or somthing being I didn't have anything to take in with me (as in a pamplet or anything like that....)........

hmm there isn't any near me..... too bad lol

Babblefish won't always work. Especially if the cacher(s) don't know what language it is in... I think it would be nice that they have some type of English footnotes about the cache, or atlest to tell you what language you need to translate it from. The reason I think it'd be nice is because, if you will notice English is used alot as a second language.

I started looking into a subject today and was talking with a friend of mine on messenger about it. He said that my obsession with it wasn't as bad as with my obsession about geocaching.... I thought about it a moment then it dawned on me. My response to it was: "I get obsessed very easily over alot of things". He thought it was funny as heck. Anywho I think my hubby may be coming around a bit more lol. Not sure how much. I just adopted two caches in my area and am fixing to replace the containers and thinking about 3 more from the same guy and a few from a friend of his. I am really hoping to make it to an event, but still not real sure about it. i'm very glad to of gotten so many replies. Thank you all, and I hope to see some more lol.

it could be fun and interesting to go for a walk into an area of woods and find it..... but as others have said ya gotta think about muggles....

LMAO! I'll have to remember this ............