ashnikes

hmmm lets see, geocaching from the eyes of ashnikes.... 1) you must place your cache wherever you like, with or without permission, the entire earth is your play pen, and people shouldnt get so bent up on private property, after all even if you work on the land, or put a fence with a lock around it, and signs up, dont the animals still get in? some say people are animals, so why should one species not be allowed in? besides even if you worked to make that land private, your kids didnt, so when you die it should become public again. 2) bombs are only ok as caches if they are water, whipped creme, or honey variety. *** Pinatas are good caches as well, but dont tend to last very long around kids. so fill em with shards of glass, and bees. teach those kids a lesson. 3) you do not have to replace any loot you take from a cache, after all, you worked hard for it, had to drive to the back part of the parking lot of walmart for that thing, you know how crazy people drive in walmarts parking lot? you deserve a medal of honor! and it better be in that cache along with the president himself! 4) only hunt on trails already ruined by previous careless cachers, so you can blame the mess you leave on them. 5) if its not wheelchair accessible, it probably wasnt worth it. 6) if your cell phones crappy gps, and the pirated cache location software you loaded on to it, marks your new hide 300ft away from where you actually hid it, no worries, someone will find it. eventually. 7) always wear flip flops, and a fanny pack filled with the following.... ***Smartphone (kindof a given) ***Beef jerkey, (in case you need to leave something in return for the loot you took) ***A shake and point flashlight, preferrably dubbling as a hammer, you never know when youre gonna need to hang a picture frame of those raccoons you just saw 8) always make sure to lock yourself out of your car in the excitement of a new find (which you found out didnt even exist any longer, after you found out your keys were locked in your car, and you had to treck 4 miles back to your house to get your spare, in the thunderstorm, with your smartphone in a newspaper plastic bag so it wouldnt get ruined, but wound up getting ruined anyway) 9) cant think of a good # 9 yet and lastly, 10) be sure to rub your 25 finds and 1 hide in the span of 2 whole days in the faces of every geocacher you ever meet forever!

I wholeheartedly agree with and endorse this comment. aww face it, it gives you all something to do, a reason to stay online at night, a sense of community when you can team up against the new guy, even if he is a jerk in an online forum, where social rules do not apply, but people seem to think they should. in real life i think we would all be real good friends,

hahaha did i say that?

they are all very different topics, course some of you are trying to tie them all together, i was not aware i was doing something wrong.

as the hider, what are you supposed to leave for your ftf? i was under the influence it was a dollar, but i could be wrong, seems im wrong about just about everything on here. so i figured ide ask.

I was thinking more like real animals, but thats pretty awesome, my old camp counselor, told me a story once of how him and a few of his buddies decided for their senior prank in high school they stole a huge bison stature like that, drove it several miles up the road, and replanted it in the middle of town. amazing. must weigh even more than a live one.

whats the worst you've come across? i.e. Dont let me Cache you ! hahahaha kills me.

lets see some pictures of animals you found while caching.... there were a family of like 10 of these kids, i thought they might like starburst, turns out they did. saw a baby armadillo, a rabbit, and a bird of prey of some sort carrying off a meal. a bunch of millipedes, must be mating or something, a huge bullfrog, a deer, and tons of frogs, and spiders in the last 24 hours caching. im going to have to start taking more pictures.

So are most of yours. yeah! were evil post buddies! I love you!

is stolen from harry potter, is it not? so geocaching was invented when? and harry potter was invented when? have geocachers ever been in trouble with copywrite over this nick name?

i am trying to make it a point to used "recycled" materials for my caches,

see that wasnt so hard was it.

huh?

yeah yeah name calling and mud slinging back and forth all day long and nobody can answer my question, where exactly does my pm $30 a year go? also, so there are a hundred and one geocache apps and 99.99% of them are not legal according to the forums, so how many freeloaders are there who are hiding, and finding your caches? should we ban them too? I was not bragging ftr, i was merely asking why, as for being a troll... arnt trolls those big hairy guys who live under bridges and eat goats? i thought i was playing the game nicely, finding, logging, hiding, meeting up with, discussing, and giving my hard earned money out in FTF dollar bills to the players, the people i will actually get to interact with, the people out there hiding, and finding along with me, not some random person in some office building someplace. i cant believe you guys were voting to ban me over asking where my $30 bucks for a p.m. are going, I love geocaching, im having a blast on my 2 weeks off from school hiding and finding, if i am pissing some people off because i am being vocal about some things that i feel need ot be discussed, get over it. make a real argument, rather than tell me to leave, or tell mods to give me the ban hammer. Interestingly enough, I am more than willing to meet anyone off these forums, give out my phone number, and give you my physical address, im interested in everyones opinions thats why i posted mine, and come back to read, and comment on yours, unfortunately not everyone has valid arguments, they choose instead to try and scare me away or something liek that. sorry to have offended, but suck it up, and get on with your life. the one thing i do think pm'ers get non-pmers dont is the ftf notifications, only one person mentioned that, as far as i know its sort of an unspoken rule to leave a dollar in your cache when you first hide it, or something of real value, for the first person to find, so i left one in both of mine, (even though the second person to find my first cache took off with it) theres $2 i just donated to the game of geocaching, ive got $28 left, after I hide 30 caches, with a dollar in each, i should automatically get PM status, as i have donated $30 to the game.

some very good points and some very obscure and intangible ones. "because its the right thing to do" yes, my phone is not the best tool for the job, but how many times have you used a screwdriver as a hammer, and got the job done? the nice thing about the phone, is it does a bazillion things in one place, sure its 50 a month total, which equals roughly $600 a year, it replaces having to own a laptop for the most part, it makes and receives phone calls, it is a multitude of small specialty tools, including a decent gps, and now I should pay an additional $30 a year to an unknown "integral" part of geocaching in order to "do the right thing" and keep the servers running.... well, its a public game, using public data, and public places, and besides running the online logs, and data base which makes it "convenient" for all of us, pm's or not, I dont see where that money is going, ide just like to know what it goes to pay for, a forum like this one for example can be hosted for about $40 a year, if not every two years, how do i know? Cause my buddy and I made one. same look and functions and everything, a server is nothing more than a multitude of linked hard drives, im sure if we all got together we could store these caches on all of our personal computers, its not like they take up that much space, lets see some real numbers here. as for the technicians who upkeep the servers.... there may be 5 total of them to keep a site like this running, and they probably maintain the servers once a week if not once a month, i know because i used to do that same job in the army. the staff, 20 people, what do they do exactly? run the store? to make even more money on what another poster labeled as loyalty name branding so we all relate Groundspeak to geocaching, without the users, there would be no caches, without the caches there would be no need for this site, this argument is moot, all i wana know is where is that $30 going exactly. and how much money is generated annually for this public game using public property, and mostly all volunteers. *on a side note, do you all remember that game where you could track currency, people would write the website you could track the $1 bills on, it was essentially the same thing as travel bugs, except no one owned anything, does that game still exist? **on a second side note, yes its true, using your smartphone to do geocaching can be pretty crappy sometimes, cause its not terribly accurate on occasion, it lags, its battery has a very short life span, usually 4 to 5 hours if youre lucky, and there are a million and one random apps for geocaching, i use (reference to unauthorized application removed by Groundspeak) and its pretty darn useful, doing a pocket querry on a smart phone means you have to find caches nearby, instead of plan ahead, which you can do but you need an address, and its still a bit crappy, but it works for me, as im sure it works for a lot of people, I still use my laptop to find really interesting caches, as im still learning how to use my smartphone, and when logging my hides, i will be using this site form now on instead of my phone... http://www.getlatlon.com/ the cross hairs get me pretty darn close, close enough for geocachers to be in the ball park, then ill add decent clues so they can find the caches within a relative timeframe. Yes I intend to hide a ton more, i have a bunch of ideas, which may ush the norm, but thats fine by me, and if they get stolen, so be it, if people are having a hard time finding my caches, ill adopt new ways, tried and true methods, but for right now, im sticking with what i got, cause im broke, thanks in part ot the smartphone, so i might as well get good use out of it.

youre taking my question in a different direction, not unacceptable, but unexpected. my argue was that new people getting into geocaching with smartphones do not need a premium membership to get a good portion of the premium membership goods. in fact the only things i can see that premium members get smartphone users dont, is a title of "premium member" which means you pay an anual fee of what 30$? to a virtual third party for a site that is a virtual backup of your real geologs, that costs roughly 100 bucks a year to maintain, total, and that you get to post in the off topic section of the forums which only what 15% of all users use anyway? not that i dont personally want to pump money into the system, for a game i enjoy, but what is that money going towards? who does it benefit? Is it going to pay for the restoration of land geocachers tear up each year? is it going towards paying for memberships of people who cant afford it? is it going towards puting better swag in geocaches? who knows.... as far as i know the reviewers are volunteers, the clean up projects are made possible through volunteers, the events... volunteers, where is all that money going? so my original point is that with my smartphone why should i pay a yearly fee? as for taxes... I make less than 15000 a year, i get all my taxes back, i make enough to live happily off of, and i can get medical and dental work done for next to nothing... why would i want to make more than that? so i can pay more, owe more, and worry more? the roads were built when i was put on this earth, if they deteriorate, we should all walk more, why do you car about roads anyway, youre a geocacher.....

hey, what are you trying to say?

gee thanks. thats reassuring hat 48% of the caches people near me are hiding are micro cop outs. why waste the effort? now if your cache is a micro container, or a buffalo container, and you place it in a bigger object like a fake head or a giant spider, you should not consider your cache a micro, if you hide it under a light post skirt, you just wasted not only your time, but tons of other peoples time, can we make a rule that says no copycat lightpost skirt micros within 100 miles?

so with smartphones premium membership benefits may be obsolete... the new free apps that allow smartphone users to access Groundspeak do a lot of the work premium members have been feeding their personal gps devices. with much ease. so we cant make pocket queries yet, we can come pretty close, we dont have to download anything, we can go paperless, and conduct new searches as often as we like, so besides giving money directly to the site and being able to post in the off topic section what real incentives are there anymore?

running from the cops under any circumstance is a horrible idea. from my experiences dumpster diving, speeding, and spray painting run ins with the cops are easily handled if you follow these simple steps. 1) Never ever run, cops LOVE to pretend to be real cops, they get lame calls all the time, and any chance they have to run down a suspect is their bread and butter. If they catch you they will throw you on the ground, and heavily restrain you, and talking your way out of anything after running is extremely tough. when you run from cops you are immediately looking guilty of something. why risk it? 2) as soon as you see or hear a cop approaching you place your hands in full view, you dont need ot hold them above your head, that makes you look rediculous, and potentially guilty of something. just have them out, and drop anything you have in them, or explain to the cops that you are holding a very expensive gps, or phone, and show it to them open handed, if cops see you with your hands in your clothes, or on an object of any kind they cant make out they are taught to automatically assume its a weapon of some sort you have, and they will and are legally allowed to shoot you if they feel they are in danger, so NEVER stick your hands in your pockets, or clothes once confronted... ***If you are in your car, or being pulled over, always keep your hands up on the steering wheel, and free of anything at all, when they ask for your liscence and registration, tell them breifly where it is and ask permission to get it, "officer, its in my glove box, can i get it?" this makes the officer aware you are going to grab something out of your glove box, or from under the seat, and they will know where to watch you, this is great for them because it prevents you from making any sudden movements that may make the cop feel in danger. people do some really stupid crap to cops, so cops are just as much on edge when they pull people over and investigate suspicious people as you are to be hassled by them, dont give them any reason to be suspicious of you 3) Always be polite, and calm, and refer to them as "officer" yes officer, no officer, suck up to cops, sure you want to firebomb every last bloodsucking one of them for busting you and not the real criminals, like politicians, or insurance companies, but in the event you are detained by them be polite, it will get you a long way, and generally even in the case of traffic stops can get you off with just a warning. 4) be honest but be brief, even when i was doing illegal stuff like graffiti, I would tell the cops i had intended to, but didnt get a chance to spray anything, they would dismiss the cans of paint in my bag, and let me go after a warning. if you are geocaching, tell them "hey look, i was out looking for this geocache, which is a treasure box hidden by people all over the world, as part of an online game, and i guess i just chose the wrong time of day to go looking for it." thats all you need to say. if you really want to get on the cops good side, ask them for directions, they have a quota little known to most people of # of helping people do things they have to fill once a month, changing someones tire, helping them with directions, helping old ladys cross the street, this is a sort of public service quota they have to fill, and if you ask them for directions to say near another cache, they can write it off as one of these community service quotas, they love that crap they eat it up. any other good tips?

i didnt see in the guidelines where we could not hide caches inside buildings.... anyone clarify? i want to hide some in my favorite public places

im sure this has been covered, but has anyone ever had a run in with the law while geocaching? what did you tell the cops?

meh its illegal in a lot of cities, just means those that brave the law get even better finds, since less people want to do such a thing, honestly, is a cop really going to take someone pulling carrots and flowers out of a dumpster to jail? no, youll get a warning, thats all..

While I agree with this in theory, I take it to task as many decent locations for larger caches are taken up by nanos and micros. I'm getting tired of good spots for micros getting taken up by those giant trash collectors known as ammo cans. hahahaha ... on a side note i found a micro tonight that may just put them back on my list.... i should of taken a picture of this one, but it was pitch black, ill take one during the day but its no where near as scary when you can see what it is....

oh theres still plenty to be had out there in those big green bins.... check this site out.... http://dumpsterworld.com/index.php