DisQuoi

I like the diversity of threads addressed by thecachunter ATTENTION VIRTUAL CACHE LOVERS!!!!! thecachunter Aug 01, 02 11:14 AM ATTENTION VIRTUAL CACHE LOVERS!!!!! thecachunter Aug 01, 02 11:12 AM ATTENTION VIRTUAL CACHE LOVERS!!!!! thecachunter Aug 01, 02 11:11 AM ATTENTION VIRTUAL CACHE LOVERS!!!!! thecachunter Aug 01, 02 11:02 AM ATTENTION VIRTUAL CACHE LOVERS!!!!! thecachunter Aug 01, 02 09:24 AM ATTENTION VIRTUAL CACHE LOVERS!!!!! thecachunter Aug 01, 02 09:10 AM ATTENTION VIRTUAL CACHE LOVERS!!!!! thecachunter Aug 01, 02 08:42 AM

If you want to keep these all as individual caches just so people can increase their count with convenience, I'd say you are going about this the wrong way. First of all, virtuals tend to be easy since most are statues, plaques or other monuments (again, see Washington DC). Yours seem to be in this category (easy). In fact, I'm guessing it's a stretch to call them "1/1" (alas, there's nothing lower). Instead of having 6 virtuals that should actually be rated as "0.2/0.2" consider bunching them into a group that add up to at least "1/1". Traffic is not your problem, nor is walking two blocks. Your perspective of not wanting to inconvenience the seekers is, in a way, contrary to the whole concept of geocaching.

If you want to keep these all as individual caches just so people can increase their count with convenience, I'd say you are going about this the wrong way. First of all, virtuals tend to be easy since most are statues, plaques or other monuments (again, see Washington DC). Yours seem to be in this category (easy). In fact, I'm guessing it's a stretch to call them "1/1" (alas, there's nothing lower). Instead of having 6 virtuals that should actually be rated as "0.2/0.2" consider bunching them into a group that add up to at least "1/1". Traffic is not your problem, nor is walking two blocks. Your perspective of not wanting to inconvenience the seekers is, in a way, contrary to the whole concept of geocaching.

May I suggest that if a town has lots of interesting historical sites, rather than making a score of virtuals, make a single, well-planned, multi-step cache that ends with a box-in-the-woods. Below are some examples: Herndon Through The Years by Dep&Uno&Co A Walkabout Town by Dave (on my own) Out of the Frying Pan by Me

May I suggest that if a town has lots of interesting historical sites, rather than making a score of virtuals, make a single, well-planned, multi-step cache that ends with a box-in-the-woods. Below are some examples: Herndon Through The Years by Dep&Uno&Co A Walkabout Town by Dave (on my own) Out of the Frying Pan by Me

quote:Originally posted by Bushwhacker:Your Caches should be allowed for 1 simple reason its not how close they are but according to 1 line in the "RULES" "A cache has to be a specific distinct GPS target..." I have placed 6 in our little town, and they are real close in distance, but the difference is what the caches consist of. To tell us to go buy a box and some trinkets is dead wrong. After all aren't we the search engine and so how we spend our money is our own business. The "Bushwhacker" Think of the caches listed on the web-site as concrete. Physical "caches-in-the-woods" are the cement, well-constructed "multi-s" and such are the aggregate. Locationless are little bits of dirt and "virtuals" are the water. Of course, we don't want the dirt but we do need some water. However, too much water can really "water down" the concrete. We're drowning in water here. It's very tempting to keep adding water because it's cheap and makes the concrete go "further" ... but someone has to buy the boxes and trinkets to keep adding the cement and sand to keep up with the guy who has the hose on full blast. Washington DC is a great example of too much water, for the love of Pete.

quote:Originally posted by Bushwhacker:Your Caches should be allowed for 1 simple reason its not how close they are but according to 1 line in the "RULES" "A cache has to be a specific distinct GPS target..." I have placed 6 in our little town, and they are real close in distance, but the difference is what the caches consist of. To tell us to go buy a box and some trinkets is dead wrong. After all aren't we the search engine and so how we spend our money is our own business. The "Bushwhacker" Think of the caches listed on the web-site as concrete. Physical "caches-in-the-woods" are the cement, well-constructed "multi-s" and such are the aggregate. Locationless are little bits of dirt and "virtuals" are the water. Of course, we don't want the dirt but we do need some water. However, too much water can really "water down" the concrete. We're drowning in water here. It's very tempting to keep adding water because it's cheap and makes the concrete go "further" ... but someone has to buy the boxes and trinkets to keep adding the cement and sand to keep up with the guy who has the hose on full blast. Washington DC is a great example of too much water, for the love of Pete.

Why did you feel the need to start a new thread?

quote:Originally posted by brdad:That might work for ammo boxes, mortar tubes, and caches with coins in them, but what about plastic? A metal detector should find any cache in MD, DC or Virginia due to the metal ring on the CCCooperAgency's advertisements (key chains).

I agree that a trail of flattened grass is not an ecological disaster but the park and its management may not want a path there.

You basically have to pose these questions here as few people read the other forums. At least .. that's what I've found

I agree with George. As long as their clients know that the cache (mine) is placed my a person not associated with their spa, I'd love them to use my cache ... that's why I place caches ... for people to visit. If the extra visits were more than acceptable for the surroundings, I'd consider moving it. Garmin sells GPS units and advertises the website (this one) and that seems to work okay. I also agree that it's not easy to teach someone something for the first time. I would say that whatever profit they earn, they earn. If the clients believe they are PAYING for something that I've given them for free, I would have a problem. That is to say, if the spa took credit for my work, that's another story.

I like it, too. I'm curious to know how the commercialism-nazis react, though. After all, they're using Jeremy's logo on a commercial web-site designed to sell their product.

I thought Georges were for Big Gulps!

This was discussed in Condition Icons thread in May. In my opinion, a cache owner doesn't have to report any conditions if he feels feels it will make the cache more challenging ... nor do I think that it is necessary for someone to tell you that your dog is welcome as a given park since you can usually expect that she will be (worst case: on a leash). However, it would be a nice feature to be able to include a condition icon for the occasional park where dogs are not allowed. If several people complain that there are bees in the vicinity, the owner could modify the cache conditions to include a bee icon. But it would be rediculous to have a "no bees" icon, don't you think? I can understand why brdad thinks the list of possible conditions is too long but by using some judgement (and identifying what types of conditions icons are in demand), a short list could meet most needs of most people. If snow shoes are a must, or audio devices not permitted, one could always include such a note in the description. It would be rare. But if there's a clear demand for indentifying dog permittedness, I'd much rather see a small black and white symbol than a note on every single description. I just realized that Jeremy has said that he plans to add voluntary attributes (see linked thread above) ... I'm guessing that dogs would be included.

Don't confuse "politically correctness" with "environmentally resposible" or "security irreposibility". There have been many discussions on how to place a cache such that you aren't damaging wetlands or habitats. That has NOTHING to do with political correctness. There have been incidences where geocaches have taken the time and resources of bomb squads (and our court system). Discussion about ammo boxes with skulls and cross bones being placed near a resevoir isn't about offending someone with disabilities ... it's about keeping this a viable sport so you can continue to do it period.

I wish there was sample file to download and check it out. I've installed mobipocket. Anyone care to post a sample or email ME one? disquoi@hotmail.com (I'm so impatient)

quote:Originally posted by Seay me:Where would one fine the coordinates of a two points on a map. Is there a realitively easy way to do it? What I do is ... 1) If I'm out in the area that I want to calibrate, I drive to a convenient intersection of streets or other landmark that is identifiable by air, and store a waypoint. I repeat this somewhere else that will show up on the aerial image (but not too close ... the farther the better). or 2) You can get coordinates for an street intersection from MapBlast (or MapQuest if you're creative), MapSource, STreets & Trips ... any other map software. Then in UPS Utility, you import the jpeg or bmp file that is the aerial image, and follow the instructions to calibrate using two points. The cool thing is, the image doesn't have to rotated to north and the calibration points can be anywhere in the photo (not just the two opposite corners). If you want to get funky, you can use three calibration pojnts and it will warp the image as necessary to make it fit.

I'm sure I'm not the only one who keeps adding to the growing clutter on my desktop due to this activity. Let's see YOUR clutter!

There were some other excellent suggestions in this thread.

I have four active caches. Two in Northern Virginia and two in BFE Virginia. The two that are in Northern Virginia are visited frequently (1-3 times per week when weather is good). On the contrary, my two caches that are both located in some of the most beautiful part of the country (I know, I know, where you live is also beautiful) are visited much less frequently. One of them has been visited only twice in seven months. Who can beat February 15th as the longest stretch without a log?

quote:Check it out at http://www.gpstm.com I think you'll find it does what you are looking for and more. (Like Insert your own maps!) I also downloaded this. It seems to work great. I like that it will plot the geocaching.loc data with the waypoint number or the cache name. However, one drawback I've noticed is that to calibrate a map image, you have to know the top left corner and bottom right corner coordinate. In GPS Utility, you can use any two points and it will even rotate the grid if necessary.

For one of my caches, I needed to place three microcaches. I first used the following metallic "pill" boxes from the Container STore. It worked well because you could put the magnet inside, it would stick to the container without glue, and still hold the micro to a metal surface. The problem, as you can tell in the picture, is that they rust. So I switched to acrylic "pill boxes" as shown below: They've held out great against rust but clearly the magnet won't stick without glue. I used a two-part epoxy from Home Depot (~$1.50) and haven't had any problems. Like the previous post, I epoxy the magnet to the inside. One cool feature of these is that you can write on the inside (and/or paint) and since they're transparent, the design is protected on the inside of the container. These come in many sizes and have tight sealing screw tops. I recommend the following magnets for this purpose. They are freakishly strong. They will hold any reasonably sized micro-cache (even with coins inside) Lee Valley Hardware

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