PISA-caching

Ok, in this case I will try to answer your questions: Would any product with a picture of the Alamo on the label be waymarkable? It's not the product we waymark, it's the location that you can see on the product (in your words: the Alamo). My suggestion would be to allow one waymark per location per company. For example: The Austrian company Manner uses the St. Stephans Cathedral in Vienna as kind of their logo. They sell many different products and you could find the St. Stephans Cathedral on various product, but only one waymark for Manner plus St. Stephans Cathedral should be allowed. But other suggestions are welcome. Would a representation (not a detailed photo) of the Alamo be acceptable, like a graphic, if it was clear that the graphic was of the Alamo? It would be enough, if the location is clearly recognizable. What would the default waymark image be: the place or the label? If the default photo is the product label, isn't that advertising a product? Similar to the postcards and stamps it would be the label of the product. And yes, it's advertising, but just one waymark per company. And this is also what I meant when I was asking "too Commercial?". If the default photo is of the Alamo, how many different product waymarks could be placed there? 1? 1000? See above. Could I visit this waymark with ANY advertising product label with an Alamo, or would have to buy the exact product waymarked? You don't have to buy stamps, postcards, photos of the past, so you don't have to buy these products either. What if the waymarked product rare or not globally available, when there are other products with the Alamo in it that are more prevalent and more easily obtained? Again, we don't waymark products. Where would the waymark coordinates be located, at the Alamo or at the place the product was purchased? This is also a serious question? Here's my 'serious' answer: Just like with the stamps and postcards it is of course the place where you bought it and if you can't determine the exact coordinates of the shelf, please use coordinates as close to the entrance of the supermarket as possible. :-/ Would I have to have personally visited the Alamo to be able to waymark a product with the Alamo on it? Yes. Enough said.

Very funny.... not. :-(

We already have waymarks that we find on postcards, coins, stamps etc., but what about locations that are printed on product packing/packaging (not sure which term is right here)? I think about matchboxes: I also think about the Little coffee creamer packagings that are popular in Switzerland, Austria etc.: More examples: http://zimmerreisen.at/die-ganze-welt-auf-einem-kaffeerahmdeckeli/ Then there are wine labels: The list goes on and on. I'm sure that this would be prevelant in most countries of the world and I think it would be interesting to see all the different packings from around the world. But what do others think? Is it not interesting enough for a new category? Or too commercial?

Lately I also found an interesting tombstone: The inscription says "Unknown Artist 2010". It is not a real headstone. Nobody seems to know who placed it between two graves and why, but the cemetery administration decided to not remove it as long as nobody complains about it. For me, this would be a interesting addition to this category, but what do you think?

Respect! I think I would do that only if it was another not so interesting waymark in a category, in which I already have lots of waymarks. In any other case I would go for photoshop work or ignoring the geocache. When it comes to Waymarking, I tend to become greedy and reckless. :-)

Thanks for all your feedback. So, iconions, you own a Waymarking hat? ;-) Well, I'm the guy who runs around with two hats most of the time. My partner isn't interested in Waymarking at all, but she likes geocaching. So, we often go out to find geocaches, but my camera is always at hand in case we find an interesting waymark. Today we did a little tour and found 5 geocaches and I took pictures for around 25 waymarks. My choices are: B: If possible I will prevent to spoil with a little photoshop work. I did that with this waymark, that would have given one of the answers of this geocache. I just had to remove one number and it's not a big loss of information for a waymark visitor, but if I had to remove more, I would change to option C: C: I create the waymark without caring about the geocache, because most geocachers will not find the waymark anyway. I also think ... no, I KNOW that the vast majority of the geocachers has no idea of Waymarking. Whenever I tell a geocacher, that there is a link "all nearby waymarks on Waymarking.com" in every geocache description I hear something like "never seen that" or "really? what is Waymarking?". From time to time I'm asked for help with a geocache and if I know that waymarks can help to solve a geocache, I draw their attention to that link and add "and by the way, if you take photos for the geocaching log, you can also log that waymark", but most of the time their Waymarking visit counter remains a zero. :-(

Those of you who do Waymarking AND geocaching might have been in the following situation: You do a multi or mystery cache and find something that would make a great waymark. But this thing is part of the riddle in this cache and if you create the waymark you also create a spoiler for the geocache. How would you cope with this problem? A: I don't do geocaching and therefore unintentionally might create spoiler. B: If possible I will prevent to spoil with a little photoshop work. C: I create the waymark without caring about the geocache, because most geocachers will not find the waymark anyway. D: I forbear from creating the waymark, if there is no way to create it without spoiling the geocache. E: Other... Multiple choices allowed and any additional comment is welcome. Lately I have been in this situation a few times and therefore I'm curious what others think.

In the initial posting you said no to reliefs. :-) In a perfect world I would accept them in the Cemetery Art category and disallow reliefs on cemeteries in the Reliefs category. Same goes with Abstract sculptures. The art that you find on cemeteries is often "special" and I know a few examples of abstract artwork that you probably wouldn't pay much attention, if you see it in a park or something, but a lot of attention, because it is on a cemetery. For example:

The last three are reliefs, no? I often ask myself, where the border between sculpture and relief really is.

Cool. We have to find out which one is the original and which one the replica. Or maybe both are replicas. :-)

Oh, wow, I just found an exact replica of the above. It seems that "mine" is on the "Zentralfriedhof" in Vienna. Where is yours?

I think here in Vienna I will find plenty of waymarks for this category and some of these are so beautiful, that they deserve to have a waymark for them. One that I have already posted in "Broken Column Headstones" is this beauty: I remember that when I took the photos I was sure that there would be a category for it. I was a little disappointed that only the rather boring column made it valid for at least that category. Would this one have a chance to be added to this new category, even if it already is in the Broken Columns category? And what about the Occupational/Hobby Grave Stones? Don't have an example, but there will be headstones that are Cemetery Art and also represent the occupation/hobby of the interred.

I love challenges and fortunately I found a good candidate: The town Amstetten in Lower Austria has a population of 23,621 and didn't have one waymark until a few days ago. During my visit I took more than 200 photos and it will take some time to create all the waymarks that I want, but today I fulfill the challenge. Waymarks in Amstetten

Lately I found this sculpture, that is made of firefighting-related items like fire extinguisher, fire hose etc. It is standing next to an apartment building and there was no sign or other Information about it's age, the creator etc., but I found it very interesting and worth a waymark. My first guess was "Figurative Public Sculpture", but maybe some experienced waymarker has a better idea.

I'm sure we will have a good description soon and Kansas and Austria are closer that one might think. :-)

My first uncategorized waymark with a counter.

Maybe I misunderstand your last post or maybe you misunderstood mine. :-) I'm not trying to make these two chapels in (or attached to) a church a valid waymark. I (like you) try to clear things up. Like you, I mainly think of separate buildings when I talk about chapels. We both think that chapels within a big building are not what we are looking for. Am I right so far? BUT, there are borderline chapels and that's were we have to take a closer look. And I'm not trying to move the border from here to there, but rather try to find a way to describe where the border IS. If for example there is a church and one day they build a little chapel that uses one wall of the church, that would be accepted, right? If they built both at the same time (church for big funerals, chapel for small funerals) with a solid wall between, I would accept the chapel too. If chapel and church are under the same roof and you don't recognize the chapel as a separate part of the church from outside(!) I wouldn't accept it, because it is more a "virtual" chapel (more a part of the church than a separate building). My only problem is: It's hard to discuss all this in a foreign language. I trust that you will find the right words and that I hope (and am pretty sure) that we have the same idea of what we want to see and what not.

They are in the wings. But I don't know, whether there is a wall between the church area and the chapels area or not. My guess is, that there is a wall between them, but I will check when we go there again.

1. Either good documentation or we just believe the poster. :-) 2. Short answer: I agree (1 waymark for the 4 chapels in one building and 1 waymark for the 5th, as long as it is looking like a chapel). 3. I tend to trust people and I'd rather accept a chapel with regular services (because the poster lied to me) than to force all the other waymarkers to prove every detail of their waymark. Maybe I'm not a good reviewer. :-) 4. Ok, but the churchyard cemeteries are (mainly) about the cemeteries, not the church, right? I have another question: We have a huge cemetery in Vienna with a huge church in the middle and two chapels on both sides of the church with separate entrances. What about these? Acceptable as (1 or 2?) separate waymarks, or do they have to be mentioned in a waymark about the church? Here is an example image.

Do you have any categories on the ignore list?

Wow, lots of questions. Here are my opinions: 1. If it was a cemetery chapel, it would qualify. If it is was additionally close to a road/path and converted to a waychapel, I would not accept it. 2. The four chapels would qualify. The 5th one? I don't know. Guess it depends on the proportions. If it is just one little room in a big building, no. If the main purpose of the building is being a chapel and the rest is just one office for administration, yes. But in general, I would love to just see waymarks where you can see from outside that this is a chapel. 3. So it's a bigger chapel now, right? It is a chapel, so I would accept it. 4. I think the chapels should in general be stand-alone structures. If church and chapel just share one wall and the chapel is somehow "attached" to the church (and not included in the church building, like a separated room with an additional entrance), then I would accept it as a separate building. But it will be tricky to take care of all that in the description AND of course all of the above is just my personal opinion.

Funny. A few days ago I read about a bridge that is being built to help wild animals cross a future railroad track. I thought "Would that be a good idea for a waymark category?", but the next thought was "probably not prevelant enough". Anyway, I think it's a good idea and with some research it should be possible to find such locations.

I created two waymarks. One for the wolf statue and a coat of arms waymark.

The problem is: Not all traffic-related counters are boring and not all scientific counters are interesting. If for example there is one place in a huge city where they count the number of passengers that cross a bridge, I would be interested to see it. If there are dozens of parkades with a counter at the entrance, it gets boring. But there are many similar examples. When I think about "Exact Replicas" I find it boring to see the many replicas of the statue of liberty and the liberty bell, but (for me) that would be no reason to exclude them. But most US waymarkers love to show that their city also has a replica of those two liberty symbols. Back to the counters: While it might be boring if you have lots of similar counters in your city, the same kind of counter might be something special in a smaller city. Edited to add: When the category "Feed the Animals" started, I was a little worried, that there will only be waymarks like "Feed the goats", "Feed the Sheep" or any other farm animals. And yes, there are several of these, but also "Feed the Bears", "Feed the Southern Stingrays" and many more and I wouldn't want to miss the goats and sheeps either.

Sorry, but I don't quite get that. A chapel is always a building, that was initailly built for religious People, no? Even if it serves as a funeral hall from time to time for people who are not believers, it's still a religious building (at least in my humble opinion). I also know funeral halls, that are used like chapels, but their architecture is quite different. I would go for Religious buildings unless you also want to include funeral halls.