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This is not a true DNF because the cache doesn't exist on geocaching.com, but those of you who have done the Rainbow series of virtual caches will know the clues take you to a physical cache at the end. My brother and I decided to go looking for the physical cache at the end which is (or was at the time) located on a famous heath. We ended up scrabbling around in a large natural bowl full of bushes. Worse, We'd had a couple of beers for lunch and so I was in need of the toilet. So I found a particularly large bush and proceeded with watering the wild life behind it. In mid flow, I happened to look up at the edge of the bowl and there was a strange man there perfectly motionless watching what my brother and I were doing. Looking around, we noticed there were other strange men hanging around in various parts of the landscape. Some of them were doing.... err, well.... things.... We decided not to hang around long enough to find the cache.

I've got an Oregon 400t which I bought about a month ago. It's excellent compared with my old Vista and it does everything on your list. I also bought the OS 1:50 000 maps which was frankly a waste of money since the topo maps it came with are almost as good.

I haven't done any at all since March. Thing is, there's so many other things to do in Summer. ------- jeremyp The second ten million caches were the worst too. http://www.gagb.org.uk

quote:Originally posted by Liz Codd: quote:Originally posted by Pharisee:I recon that if I stick a pair of treble hooks in one and drag it along behind the boat, it'll make fine pike bait Cruelty to bears will get you nowhere Mr Pharisee . . . Actually it's cruelty to Pike. Their last meal will unexpectedly turn out to be a mouthful of man made fibres and filler. ------- jeremyp The second ten million caches were the worst too. http://www.gagb.org.uk

quote:Originally posted by Iwuzere:Is EGNOS always going to be compatible with WAAS? i.e. any WAAS capable GPSr will always work with the EGNOS system? Yes ------- jeremyp The second ten million caches were the worst too. http://www.gagb.org.uk

quote:Originally posted by Icenians:I can't agree more on this one. An association that controls the placement of caches, however well meaning, controls the game. That musn't be allowed to happen. Too late. An "association" already controls the placing of caches viz geocaching.com a US based semi-commercial operation. In order to play the game properly i.e. be able to log the caches on the web site, you have to be a member of geocaching.com. Before anybody says "Aha you could use navicache" or whatever, just check out the number of UK caches on Navicache - it's at least an order of magnitude smaller which with due respect to NC makes gc.com the only important geocaching web site. There's no way that GAGB or any other association is going to be able to tell gc.com not to accept caches from non members of that organisation. The only way GAGB or other organisation is going to be able to influence cache approvals (in terms of guidelines) is if the approvers are sympathetic to the organisation and gc.com doesn't object. All this means that a UK organisation is in no way going to be a threat to those people who do not want to get involved. They will still be able to cache as they always did. On the other hand, it will have the following positive benefits: Be able to negotiate access rights with land owners so that individual don't have to bother with seeking permission or at least know where they stand Promote geocaching (or at least represent it) in a positive light Represent the UK cachers to gc.com such that the guidelines can be more UK culture friendly. If we're banded together in a group I think Jeremy would take us more seriously. I can't see how any of the above is actually bad for UK geocachers and I personnally would not be associated with any organisation which makes it harder for non-members than it is now. So those of you who do not want to be involved in GAGB or any other org, you've made your point so please keep quiet on this thread unless you have a positive contribution to make. ------- jeremyp The second ten million caches were the worst too. http://www.gagb.org.uk

quote:Originally posted by wossa:I think el10t, even you would agree that a proper Data cable (with or without a power component) will give a better result than a piece of string. I sort of made the assumtion that that was fairly obvious. In response to my post saying a data cable was for transmitting data, you said it was merely for connecting a PC to a GPSr and maybe transmitting power. As el10t pointed out, this falls short of the requirement to be a data cable i.e. merely being connected is not enough to be called a data cable. If you are claiming your original post implies a data cable is for transmitting data then why did you make it in response to my post which said a data cable is for transmitting data? ------- jeremyp The second ten million caches were the worst too. http://www.gagb.org.uk

quote:Originally posted by 101325:Has there been a major bout of amnesia on this message board, or have some people been on holiday and missed this thread? Have a look at this thread http://ubbx.Groundspeak.com/6/ubb.x?a=tpc&s=5726007311&f=6616058331&m=5616051&r=2026051#2026051 A cache in a pay to enter site is a commercial cache and is (or so I was told at the time) no longer acceptable. It was also pointed out that the EPCOT and other themepark caches were some sort of "Historical abberations" which slipped through the net but wouldn't be allowed today, they therefore wouldn't be a precedent for future caches. Here are the actual guidelines: quote:What is a commercial cache? A commercial use of the web site cache reporting tool is an direct or indirect (either intentional or non-intentional) attempt to solicit customers through a geocaching.com listing. Examples include for-profit locations that require an entrance fee, or locations that sell products or services. To me that would exclude caches at profit making locations (e.g. Disney theme parks) but not at non-profit locations (e.g. National Trust sites). The historical thing is that the Disney caches were placed before this guideline was written and most of the guidelines are not applied retrospectively. ------- jeremyp The second ten million caches were the worst too. http://www.gagb.org.uk

quote:Originally posted by Rockratgirl:Many thanks to SimonG & PaulGOTLG for believing in me! Perhaps I will have a go after all. There will be some photos and some writing. How hard can that be? Seriously though, I really would like to achieve it as I've been using very very very basic HTML on my Ebay page and it would be nice to achieve more! Start by getting a good HTML book. I used "HTML & XHTML" published by O'Reilly which is a reasonably complete treatment without being too much of a doorstop. You'd be amazed at what you can achieve just with HTML (and a bit of CSS). It's also important because server side scripting languages (e.g. PHP and ASP) work by constructing HTML on the fly. You can't use PHP effectively without knowing some HTML. ------- jeremyp The second ten million caches were the worst too. http://www.gagb.org.uk

quote:Originally posted by wossa: <start pedantic mode> No - a data cable is for connecting your GPSr to your PC. Nothing more, nothing less (and possibly connecting to a pwer supply in some cases) <end pedantic mode> <sig line censored!!!> Surely a cable that connects your GPSr to a power supply is called a "power cable". A data cable is for transmitting data (there's a clue in the name believe it or not). Also, it doesn't have to be a PC on the other end. Also being pedantic means being unnecessarily precise not unnecessarily wrong as this and previous posts have demonstrated your post was ------- jeremyp The second ten million caches were the worst too. http://www.gagb.org.uk

BTW Cap'n Pugwash theme and this brings tears to my eyes: ------- jeremyp The second ten million caches were the worst too. http://www.gagb.org.ukMagic Roundabout [This message was edited by jeremyp on June 01, 2003 at 09:37 AM.]

Everything mentioned so far is a mere shadow when compared with the greatest children's TV programme of all time. I am of course referring to the Magic Roundabout. ------- jeremyp The second ten million caches were the worst too. http://www.gagb.org.uk

quote:Originally posted by The Northumbrian:This rubbish about commercial caches has been gone over before and many of us are sick of it. I thought his topic was a reasonable one to discuss even if his idea is obviously stupid to the older hands. As I said in it, circumstances change, rules need to be re-examined regularly to make sure they haven't become stupid. If you're sick of a particular topic, you are free not to read it. quote:To name names two weeks ago the Icenians put a couple of new cachers near me right off the idea of Geocaching Just as thay were starting out, Clarification please: if it was the Icenians that put people off caching, why aren't you telling them to go away? quote:I now wish I hadn't mentioned to them to have a look at the forum. Well you see people care about geocaching. There are bound to be heated discussions. I'd never introduce anybody to the forums without some health warning. quote:Originally posted by Ben Pid:hat marvellous news! see ya.... You've caused the second most trouble on these forums after RL so cut the guy some slack. ------- jeremyp The second ten million caches were the worst too. http://www.gagb.org.uk

quote:Originally posted by Mudplugger: quote: BTW I have done some real PHP scripting Good for you !! must make you the expert on these forums then for all technical matters I was just responding to your snide comment about reading it in a text book by pointing out that yes I have written some PHP script and not just read about it. I I can't seem to win with you. quote:As stated above the Apache httpd.conf file is where you set up the php requirements. In almost all cases php support is set so that php is no longer required in the tags. This makes it easier for programmers to use PHP if they are familiar with ASP. And then one day their web page goes down the tubes because the sysadmin at the ISP decided that scripting language "foo-bar" was much nicer than PHP and should be the default and all because the PHP scripter was too lazy to add "php" after the first <? in their script. quote: quote:Java != Javascript True but my point was that 99% of the people who read this forum won't care. This particular thread is about scripting. It's reasonable to assume that it is of importance to more than 1% of the people who got below my original post. The differences between Java and Javascript are major and fundamental. quote: Who are you to comment on someones foolhardiness ? are you suddenly an expert on all computer languages ? This individual teaches the subject I think that entitles his comments to be treated with respect. You _can't_ manipulate users hard drives with Javascript !! full stop. You've completely misunderstood my point. I fully accept that there is no way using legitimate javascript to manipulate the local hard drive but that's not where the security issues come from. Javascript is an interpreted scripting language. As such, it requires an interpreter to be embedded in your web browser. Interpreters (and browsers) are large complex pieces of software which inevitably have bugs in them. It's a fairly certain thing that there exist bugs such that if exactly the right bit of Javascript is passed to the interpreter, the interpreter will go off the rails and do exactly what the malicious person who wrote the Javascript wants. The reason its foolhardy to say "there are no security problems with Javascript" is because in that statement you are saying "The Javascript language has no security issues, neither does the implementation in Internet Explorer, or in Mozilla or in Opera or in Safari or in......." In fact, forget about Javascript, if you say there are no security issues in Apache, or IIS or Mozilla or Web Objects or any sufficiently complex piece of computer technology, I'll call you foolhardy. quote:If the popups are annoying you install one of the multitude of kill pop up utilities out there and that will sort it. No quote: Take a reality check JP people are only trying to help so get off of the soap box and word your replies constructively and not condescendingly. When people say things that are factually incorrect, i should just let things lie then? As I said in a previous post, one of the most important attributes of a programmer is attention to detail. I've spent far too much of my working life fixing bugs caused by sloppy coding to do anything but get extremely upset when i see people today doing the same stupid things that I had beaten out of me by harsh experience ten years ago. ------- jeremyp The second ten million caches were the worst too. http://www.gagb.org.uk

quote:Originally posted by Ben Pid:No seriously....Lets not delve into Commercialsed caching It's healthy to continue to discuss the rules. Circumstances change which means the rules might need to change. ------- jeremyp The second ten million caches were the worst too. http://www.gagb.org.uk

quote:Originally posted by pepperpot:But I suspect that the mapping feature is only relavent for USA users No actually, you can get European versions of Mapsource. Lots of us use it. ------- jeremyp The second ten million caches were the worst too. http://www.gagb.org.uk

quote:Originally posted by Mudplugger: quote: You mean <?php phpinfo(); ?> Actually No I meant exactly what I said........Cause it works..........HAVE YOU ACTUALLY TRIED IT OR READING A PAGE FROM A TEXTBOK OF YOURS ? Why are you shouting? If you don't put the php after the <? how does the web server know which scripting language to invoke? It may work on *your* server, but probably not in general. Also, the correct syntax of PHP requires a semi-colon at the end of each statement. Again, it may work on *your* server but not in general. BTW I have done some real PHP scripting. quote: quote: Slight rant: The code stuff you see embedded in web page source is not Java.It's a language called javascript </pedantic> Yeh course it was originally called ECMA script but who cares!!! Attention to detail is vital for any good programmer. If you don't get it right, your program will break so I'll take being called pedantic as a compliment. Java != Javascript. ------- jeremyp The second ten million caches were the worst too. http://www.gagb.org.uk

quote:Originally posted by Wood Smoke: Why? There are no security issues with JavaScript, so why dissable it? Because advertisers use it to do weird thing to your browser (e.g. put pop-ups in). Also I disagree with your foolhardy assertion that there are *no* issues with javascript on anybody's implementation. There may not be any *known* issues with Javascript on browser x. quote:I teach JavaScript, see my web site below, and don't forget to turn JavaScript on :-) I have no objection to you using it as long as your site still looks reasonably OK without it. quote:JavaScript is for ... and validating forms, so I can't see any good reason for turning it off???? As long as you don't *rely* only on Javascript for validating your forms. Because people can bypass the validation by turning javascript off. ------- jeremyp The second ten million caches were the worst too. http://www.gagb.org.uk

quote:Originally posted by pepperpot:Can anyone tell me what I can use the data link cable that came with my etrex legend for. i am not a techie, and the booklet that came with it was pretty scant. I have seen on screen maps with routes on them, is that possible ?? Let me try to answer the question instead of yakking about sunglasses The data cable is for a) downloading tracks , waypoints and routes from your GPS receiver uploading waypoints, tracks and routes to your GPS c) loading more detailed maps into your GPS. To do this you need some software on your PC. EasyGPS is a good start cos its free and you can use it to download waypoints from geocaching.com and then into your receiver. To do the maps, you need Mapsource (from Garmin, not free). ------- jeremyp The second ten million caches were the worst too. http://www.gagb.org.uk

quote:Originally posted by Chris n Maria:By the way... We are not sure what is happening with other mods/approvers but now Moss is back there seems to be no point in us being being involved as it seems that only 3 are needed. We will duck out now - but point out that Slythering and DD are still available if there is a need. If only life had an undo button.... London & UK Geocaching Resources: http://www.sheps.clara.net Unless you don't actually want the job, I'd stay in the running and let the admins decide which two of three get the job. ------- jeremyp The second ten million caches were the worst too. http://www.gagb.org.uk

A short summary of what has been going on. quote:Originally posted by The Hornet:I made a decision a couple of months ago that I would stop contributing to the forums. Unfortunately I went back on that decision only to get embroiled in all sorts of c**p. After a week away in the sun I realise I should have stuck to my original decision. So bye bye to forums, from now on it's GPS, mud, nettles and tupperware only for me. The above probably means you won't be reading this, but here goes anyway: There was a big argument. Lots of people got the wrong end of some sticks. Lots of people got very upset. It's all died down a bit. quote:Enthusiastic user of http://www.geocacheuk.com - Information, not control. Wrong end of a stick, I see ------- jeremyp The second ten million caches were the worst too. http://www.gagb.org.uk

I speak as a Southerner who spent a week in Dornoch last year. quote:Originally posted by Firth of Forth: Gorgeous scenery (as someone said) Agreed. The Glenmorangie distillery was a sight for sore eyes (hic). quote:, all accessible, and above all, easy to get to. Within an hour or less from most large cities you can be in the depths of the Scottish countryside. But there are very few proper roads and most of the scenic ones are clogged with tourists (like me). quote:And the English are welcome, don't let the image of a cursing Jock put you off. Strange but true. quote: As for the weather, many bright clear sunny days can be had, especially on the East side of the country, and the sky is a lot bluer the further North you travel. Ha, ha, ha! As far as I could see it was the same as England but colder. You do get more daylight hours in Summer though. ------- jeremyp The second ten million caches were the worst too. http://www.gagb.org.uk

quote:Originally posted by Teasel: Will you be moderating the forums as well? Though, fingers crossed, they seem to have quietened down now... I don't think it's necessarily a good idea to mix the two jobs. ------- jeremyp The second ten million caches were the worst too. http://www.gagb.org.uk

quote:Originally posted by Ben Pid: I repsonded angrily to readin the whole thread not just the bottom. He wouldn't be the first person to post a less than diplomatic thread on a forum... ...would he... :-) ------- jeremyp The second ten million caches were the worst too. http://www.gagb.org.uk

quote:Originally posted by Mudplugger: quote: your hosting service has to support php for it to work. I don't know whether BT does A simple way to test php - support copy the following into notepad and save it as test.php <? phpinfo() ?> Then got the http://www.yourdomain.whatever/test.php If it does have support you will see all of your server variables displayed for your enjoyment. . You mean <?php phpinfo(); ?> Anyway it's best to keep away from scripting until you are reasonably confident with HTML. Personnally, i use a program called NEdit for editing HTML. It's only a standard text editor but has support for syntax highlighting. If you're a Windows user it's probably not an option but there are loads of syntax highlighting editors out there. Slight rant: The code stuff you see embedded in web page source is not Java. It's a language called javascript invented by Netscape which has nothing to do with java except it's name. Personnally I think it's a really good idea to keep away from it for public web pages - many people including me often browse with javascript disabled. ------- jeremyp The second ten million caches were the worst too. http://www.gagb.org.uk