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Thinking of using an old... very old laptop I have that does not work anymore. I would cover the screen with tyvek(sp) as a log. It would be small enough and flat enough when closed to be easily hidden. The locations and name of the cache are limitless... I'm sure there's a downside and that's why I am asking here.

Corn. Popcorn seeds grow extremely easy. I think it's a pretty cool idea. A few kernels and instructions (with pictures) would be pretty neat for kids. I once grew a popcorn kernel to three feet high in my bedroom. germinated it in wet paper towels in a desk drawer and then planted it. It almost wouldn't die.

My thoughts are few and far between but, If it is a business card then it is trash. If it is a card with the cachers ID then it is OK if it is laminated. If it isn't, Trash. A business card I would CITO... a cachers card I would leave alone if it was laminated. A cachers card that wasn't laminated... I would leave alone unless it was a mushy piece of pulp.

I post a DNF on all the caches I DNF. Unless I forget. It might be a regional thing but in my location there doesn't seem to be many or any people that have hides just to see how many DNF's they can get on it. I am sure people do it but, I haven't encountered it yet. And, honestly.. if they rate the difficulty level high enough because it is a NIH then I have no problem with it. But if they rate it a 1.5 when it is a nano hidden in a pine tree disguised as a pine cone... well...that's different.

I agree. I don't think a cache like that would be approved and how would you write up your description? And regardless, a cache just draws attention to the place. Despite your horrible experience, I would bet that some of the logs will state that they patronized the place and liked it. How would feel about that? Besides, you place the cache, you also have to maintain it, which means that you have to return to the location. Why would you want to put yourself in that position if your experience was that "traumatic"? Also, I really don't think you have been attacked. You asked and people will give you a straight answer, I just don't think you happen to like the fact that most of the people don't like your suggestion. Heck, I don't like your suggestion. I agree completely with the above. Also, can I borrow your place at Sylvan Lake for a couple of weeks this summer?

I have always wanted to purchase a metal detector but not so much to use while geocaching. The idea of looking for stuff that others aren't interests me... hmm.. wait a minute! Anyone know of any good metal detecting sites / forums I could check out? (sorry for going a bit off topic)

You aren't really weird because I do that also. I test my pens in the car before searching for the cache. Doesn't really help though when I leave the car in -35 c. weather for a 20 minute hike and the ink is frozen by the time I find the cache. I try to bring along a pencil also to combat this but sometimes forget. Only once have I not signed the log book and claimed a find. That was because my pen was frozen and the log was full (yes, every bit of it). Thankfully the CO was OK with that and didn't delete my log. I would have understood if he did though and went back and signed it (wasn't too far from home).

Some people's radio only gets one channel. You've been waiting for just the right time to say that haven't you? lol...

What makes a good cache? I think someone should place a cache where we could exchange old prescription medicine.

Being a courier, when I retire I have no intention of going into businesses and picking up packages and delivering them. That would probably get me charged with theft. I don't see how it is any different for retired cops. If one were to try a detain me only three things could happen. 1. I would walk away and laugh at him and he would do nothing about it. 2. I would walk away and laugh at him and he would try to detain me and he would end up badly hurt. 3. I would walk away and laugh at him and he would try to detain me and I would end up badly hurt and have an excellent lawsuit that might enable me to retire sooner. Of course there could be a 4rth scenario where he went nuts and shot me. Then my wife would definitely be able to retire sooner.

If we allow this to continue... next thing you know cats will be marrying dogs and women will be allowed to vote! Bedlam!

I've even heard of a cache whore... but have yet to meet one.

Whatever mess insued would be half the fun!! So maybe making it a race isn't the best idea. There could be a smaller race for a set number of teams on one day, and then have other days where it was more casual. Or maybe get a big 11 passenger 4x4 van and see how fast it can be done in 24 hours? A roof rack could easily hold several gas cans for refueling. 1 person to drive, 2 people to navigate, prep the cachers refuel the van, hand out water, snacks and 2 shifts of 4 people to find and place a sticker on the log books? Honestly, This is not a slight to VK and friends but actually following in their spirit... heck.. they would be good as some of the 11! I'd consider being up for that.

I see nothing wrong with that and those that do can simply not look for it right? I hardly see how it will effect those that don't agree. I have seen numerous threads where people say that they "just let it slide","don't get worked up about it" or "don't even check the log book to see if they actually signed it".

And make sure you protect them from breakage by hiding them in ammo cans.

Ditto except it is my wife Emma that doesn't log as often as I. We find most of our caches together but I do find some while at work during the day. I log mine when I'm near the comp... she logs hers when I remind her. I'm sure if people were to read my logs they would think I am making her up eg: "found this one with Emma today etc..etc.." then no log from Emma...

That's awesome! After some of the recent threads on this subject I have actually tried to write better logs. I may not be as enthusiastic in my writing as this/these people were, I am trying to make my logs better. Very cool and thanks for sharing.

I don't think anyone said it was or should be but, if you have one in your hand and the cops tell you to drop it... drop it. It's also not illegal to brandish a stapler but... here in Canada the RCMP tazered a man to death when he didn't drop it fast enough when told to do so (he didn't speak English (he was from Poland visiting a relative)) The police denied any wrong doing and would have gotten away with it had someone not recorded it with their camera phone. The RCMP just recently apologized and settled an undisclosed amount of money. Anyway.. I have went offtopic.. sorry I knew the man.

Get a Polaris Ranger and have at it. Meh... not my thing.

You need some of these Have you any idea how much drywall stilts cost! Besides... I could claim I was 6'11" on my dating website profile but she's gonna notice those!

^^ this. I love my iPhone and it is as accurate as my Garmin for finding but I would never use it for hiding. Also, the battery life of the iPhone is horrible. Using it in GPS mode will kill a fully charged battery in a few hours. I like it for caching spontaneously or even just to look for caches while in the field. And as other have already said... it is kinda fragile. I have no fear about dropping my Legend on a rock or getting wet... my iPhone.... not so good.

I guess the question should also include...Has anyone ever sent you a reminder. I just got a log from one of those that I reminded. Never been sent a reminder but I can't imagine someone reacting negatively to it. but then... who knows what lurks in the ... nm...

My wife and I made a trip across Canada a couple of years ago. From coast to coast. I had bought her a GPS for Christmas a year or so earlier with Geocaching in mind (we had read about it and thought it sounded cool). Not too long after our trip we got into Geocaching. I still kick myself when I read numerous posts about a Geocache being here... there and EVERYWHERE we were! Some of them sound very cool and we may not ever return to those places. Newfoundland is the place that killed me... we hiked all over that Provence and found out later that there were caches at almost every place we hiked to. I DO plan on returning there.

I see nothing wrong with that. I am pretty sure I have forgotten to log one or two. I would appreciate being reminded that I did indeed find it so I could log it online. I think it's a commendable thing to do.

If you can do it with one vehicle, then more power to ya! So if a large group of geocachers takes more than one vehicle, but signs the logs with a team name, are you going to delete their logs because they used more than one vehicle? What I'm seeing here is a team claiming a world record, then stipulated what criteria must be used if someone else attempts to break it. No stipulations from me...... If you can somehow squeeze two vehicles up on those tiny little roads, take a couple of pics for us. We really struggled with turning around on some of them. A few of them left only 3 feet of space for moving around, and we certainly didn't want to back down those roads at night. We had to have one of us spot the 7 point turn, just to be certain we didn't drop our wheels over the unprotected edge of the cliff. One thing I will say.... "Have fun out there, and be safe!" Have one car start at each end of trail and meet in the middle. Easy as pie.... mmm... I like pie...