TeamAH3

As always, when deciding whether to follow the rules or break them, you need to consider what the actual purpose of the rule is. In the case of the no-digging rule it is to prevent damage from many cache hunters digging extensively around the cache location whilst searching. As a cache hider you will only be digging once and tidying up any damage afterwards. And you got permission to hide it anyway, right? I'd say, if you want to hide one in a tube and you make clear on the cache page that no digging is required to find it there is no problem digging to place the tube in the first place.

Except that the other side of the river has commercial buildings surrounded by fences with no way to reach the cache, short of trespassing and climbing the fences. The tree is actually the easier, and only legal, way to reach the cache. And, it's wedged under a drain outlet in some plants, not in it. Should be fine.

Your first paragraph is what I responded to. That part wasn't so bad. I empathized with what that feels like. Your second paragraph, however, is what caused so many critical responses. You are not entitled to an area just because, in your opinion, your cache is better than someone else's cache. That holds true on this listing site and on every other listing site that I'm aware of. No one said I was entitled to an area - but the guideline it just that, it suggests caches are not placed within 160m of others but this is not a hard and fast rule. I guess I'm just a bit depressed that an unimaginative nano is stopping my cache getting listed for the sake of +/- 20m. Still, tomorrow I'll be sober and won't care so much that I climbed a couple of times across that tree to place a cache that won't get listed.

RatherDrunkCacheOwners.com actually.

So, I placed a small/regular cache recently that involves a tough climb across a fallen tree over a fast river - a pretty straight terrain 4. Unfortunately there is already a 1/1 nano stuck to a gate next to a main road 140m away so the reviewer won't approve my cache as it's too close. Obviously I can't move the tree or the river so I guess this cache won't get listed. Well - it will, as I just put it on terracaching.com instead. Have fun with that dull nano geocaching.com... Sad that such dull caches can stop decent ones getting listed.

Multi's seem to get found less, but they seem to get more favourite votes. Hopefully the new favourites system will help make interesting caches more popular and encourage people into placing more complex or interesting caches.

Kind of reminds me of the South Park trilogy - "Terrorists have invaded our imagination"...

I quite like the way the awards work. What I would like, however, is some way of seeing/searching based on the visits to favourites ratio. For instance, I can see plenty in London with 30 votes from over 1,000 finds, but others with 10 votes from 20 finds. Clearly the second is likely to be a better cache despite the lower number of votes. Perhaps GS could look at including the percentage of finds that award a favourite point on the pocket queries and results pages.

Same here - the best cache we ever did took us 8 hours, and involved walking about 12 miles, through the woods, at night.

Good one. Sometime you wish people would just calm down a bit. I lived in London during all the IRA years when bombs were a very real and regular occurrence and there wasn't the levels of fear and paranoia that seem to be common today.

... and First Dutch has been happily dug up and reburied in the sand since 2001.

As I mentioned previously, people who genuinely have causes to promote want to talk about them. They want everyone to understand their view. If this trasher was genuinely interested in environmental issues they would be on here trying to convince us of their viewpoint and following up on their claims that Geocaching is littering and damaging. The fact they they have made no attempt to actually promote the cause they claim to have clearly shows it is simply a ruse. If anything, they have chosen such an easily dismissed claim in an attempt to increase the level of annoyance their actions cause.

Before drinkable water was readily available, beer brewing was saving a lot of lives.

As others have pointed out, not feeding the trolls is probably the best approach. They do this solely to annoy people, claims of environmental activism are just part of the game. If they really had a political agenda they would be actively seeking to engage in debate, not simply trolling and then sitting back with popcorn to watch the results. There might be some mileage in reporting thefts to the police. Unless they are posting all their logs from internet cafes they are actually fairly easily traceable - Groundspeak will have the IP address logged from the posts and, even if they are using floating IP addresses or dial-ups, the ISP they used will have records of which customer/telephone number was using the address at the time of the posting. So, if the police could actually be persuaded to take action finding them would probably be quite simple. So, best advice is probably ignore them online and, provided your cache was legally placed, report it to the police. Maybe if they get enough complaints they'll do something.

Here's my first bug - at least this one has an interesting mission: The Black Knight

Tempting to everytime I see a political opinion signature here. Dunno why some people can't enjoy a bit of discussion without shouting "Bush/Obama (delete-as-obsessively-opinionated) is the worst thing ever to happen to America" afterwards.

Phew, lucky that got thrown away - now their child can grow up without ever becoming aware of the existence of beer.

As an afterthought - you can normally pick up secondhand diver's weights (ie lumps of lead) cheap via ebay or similar. These are far better for weighting than rocks as they'll take up much less space.

That's quite a lot of volume - you're going to need nearly 15lbs of weight to keep that sitting underwater and more like 20 to ensure that the floating wood can't drag it around in the wind. That's a lot of stones small enough to fit in the bottle - don't fancy tipping out the goodies and rocks into a boat much either. You might be better considering a smaller cache.