Team Neos

Snail Mail...hmmmm. Laminated postcard attached to TB tag...Send it to the other cacher via a cache that they have access to???? For example: Postcard of a museum near your house sent to me via one of the first few caches I did (presumably near my house) with the message written on it "contact Team Neos via gc when this gets to cache X so they know to go pick it up from the cache"

Wow. I'm really honored. What area of the country do you cache in? We live in Southern Indiana--near Louisville, KY.

I would very much like to find one of your homemade puzzles, Puzzler. I mean that most sincerely.

I was wondering this myself. Some people are getting paranoid about everything and everyone... Getting paranoid? 30 (Thirty) years ago, my (now ex) husband and I drove to a mall in Lousivlle, KY with his best friend in our convertible. My husband was a carpenter, and had his tool belt with him. Since the convertible roof was down, he decided to lock the tool belt in the trunk of the car. Standard leather apron style toolbelt with hammers hanging off it and screwdrivers in the pckets. A woman getting on a car looked at us oddly, but since both the fellows had long hair, we figured she just didn't like "hippie" types, and ignored her. As we came out of the mall and turned onto the road we found ourselves surrounded by five police cars, carrying 10 officers all in full riot gear. A very polite officer explained that a woman had telephoned in to say that she had seen him put a gun in the trunk, and he asked if we would allow him to look in the trunk--or offered to allow us to show him a gun permit, if it was indeed a gun. We explained what was in the trunk, so they would be less worried and decided to allow them to see inside the trunk. It was a very creepy experience to sit in that car with the best friend knowing that there were 9 guns pointed at us (the officer standing by the back of the trunk had his hand on his pistol and the pistol unsnapped, but did not draw his weapon while my ex veeeerrrrry slowly opened the trunk to show the officer the dangerous toolbelt. (The officers did thank us and apologize for troubling us, etc---after they began beathing normally again). In comparison, I think the things I have read about geocaches and police response seem tame. Does that mean that we are more complacent now than years ago about odd reports? Maybe. And if so, is that a good thing? Maybe not.

Received mine yesterday---Great deal! I am very pleased with my purchase. If these aren't gone folks, you should jump on whatever is left.

And if no one wants some of them...Sometimes shelters for abused women like to get cell phones---even with the service turned off, many cell phones can still be used to reach 911. Women who are running from an abusive partner often cannot afford to keep up a cell service.

For what it is worth, I agree with everything that rjb43nh said. The cache is an obvious religious lesson, and not "just" a religious themed cache. And if I am not mistaken, the controversy that this has caused is exactly the reason not to allow caches of this nature. And I respectfully disagree with what southdeltan said about wanting more specific rules. As a teacher, I have learned to make broad, general rules that appeal to common sense--knowing that if I get too specific, the little darlins will look for all the loopholes.

Make that at least four. I love maps. I like old ones and new ones, hand-drawn ones, maps in color and maps drawn in pencil. I have my science kids draws maps of everything I can think of and try to get them to learn to read maps of every kind. I love maps. Way back in the 70s, I took on of those standardized tests that they were so fond of, and one of my teachers told me that I was the first person in our school to get a perfect score on the mapping section. The testing company must have questioned my results, because I had to take that section over again, with three adults watching me do it. I scored perfectly again! I couldn't understand how anyone could not score prefectly---I mean all you did was look at the map and answer the question! OK, now that I am a teacher, I understand that some people can't just look at it and "see" the answer, but it was hard for me to understand way back when.

What Thot said was good advice...but one more thing....sometimes people drop bugs off in a cache and don't log them into the cache for a few days. Maybe they are on vacation, or just don't have a spare minute just then. So you find a bug in a cache, but it isn't listed in the cache, yet. I would wait at least a few days before grabbing the bug of the bug page, to give them a chance to log it into the cache and add their story and their miles to the bug's travel tale. Even then, it is probably a nice idea to email the person who has the bug officially to say "Hi, do you want me to just grab this name bug, or are you going to log it in to x cache soon?"

These sound like good fun. Any not too much further away that you recommend as "don't miss" attractions? I will have the head of the department with me, and I am campaigning for GPSr units for the classroom---so I want to make sure that he has a really great first caching experience!

Torry, I plan on going to "Your ARC" his time while I am in town....I almost made it last trip up. Thanks!

OK, I admit, I was foolish before...even knowing that I would be back to Indy a few times this year, I closed the last thread that I started on this same topic several monthas ago. (Sorry!) Going to Indy early next month for the area Science convention, and will there there a couple of days. I think I just might be able to convince the head of the department to try a few caches with me after the convention since his wife own't be going this trip. Any recommendations for nifty caches near downtown? Or maybe out toward the Spaghetti Factory? Or even our toward the east end...Heck, ones that are easy to get to for out-of-towners. I was born in Indy, but don't really know my way around there these days. Thanks!

MY husband and I cache together most of the time since we started in June. I'm a teacher, he's a trucker, often gone overnight--The odds of us being off work at the same time, much less having time to cache together as well are astronomical. Yet 3 of our 50 something caches are FTF. The first one was a code puzzle that I recognized the code from college days....but even then we were surprised to find that it lasted unfound for several days until we could get to go to it together--then again, we didn't realize that it was waaaaaaaaay out in the boonies. The second one we just got lucky. It was part of a poker series that we were in and watching...we were waiting for the last leg...an email message popped up on the computer while I happened to be sitting at it. We were out the door in two minutes, parking in 10, and had it in hand in another 5! You know, we don't particularly crave the FTF, but the third cache that we got FTF on was a treat. We have a local hider that is absolutely devious in her hides. One of her new hides came up on the email alert when my husband was at the computer, since is was just across town, we jumped in the car and went--. We found it and felt quite proud of ourselves for doing it--We weren't even premium mmebers then, so it was even sweeter when she told us that premium members had been there before us looking for it, and hadn't found it!

I hearby solemly promise that as a cache owner, I will willingly, and without hesitation, remove any knives that find their way into my cache. In fact, you other owners may feel free to send me any knives that you find in your caches. I will take personal responsibility for keeping them out of your cache as well as my cache. I will not place them into another cache. I will remove them from public property, and place them in a secured location in my private domain, where no child will ever be allowed to touch them without parental presence and permission.

Well, my husband just came home from a maintence visit from the first cache that he placed, and said that he needs to restock it just a bit....It has become a magnet for TBs and lots of them go through there, but the trade goods are a little on the skimpy side now. Not too bad, because folks have traded some, but just not as nice as he wants it to stay.

Feel free to drop in on my first solo cache Not Another Cemetery Micro

Yes, Shadowcacher, you are correct. The jet stays with the travel bug tags. As you have figured out, the preferred way of saying it is that the travel bug (TB) is the jet, and the travel bug tags stay with the TB---The tags have the number that identifies the travel bug and provides the link to its webpage.

I just went to look at your pages to see what you had done. I am not sure that I would have made some of the caches in a series members only. (actually, I am sure that I personally would not make any caches members only) --but what I mean is that if I were going to make members only caches, either the entire series would be 'members only' or none of the series would be 'members only'

Programmer64, I mean no disrespect to you--honestly! (I know it is hard to tell with electronic communication) but I am curious---Since you feel so passionately that the cache should not have been placed where it is, why did you chose to log it as "found" rather than just logging a note?

Or you could try this handy little converter. http://boulter.com/gps/

I agree with lots of the ideas stated here already. So much so that I wonder why I am even posting here... I think that a larger logbook would be a wonderful change of pace. I enjoy reading the online logs becasue people wax eloquently there--they may also do so in a larger lagbook, which would be pleasureable to look through while recovering from a formidable hike. On the other hand, I love to open the container to find treasures. True, sometimes what I find is a sad a pathetic collection of worn out discardables from someone's junk drawer, but then again sometimes I open it to find something that makes me laugh out loud with delight. In any case, its the anticipation of what might be there that I enjoy the most. If the nice logbook is your priority, just let it be there, looming large, dominating the space, which will discourage most folks from adding things just because the container seems empty. If not having to do maintence to clear out the junk is a factor, why not just add a note for folks to feel free leave sig items and small TBs, but also to feel free to clear out any junk they find in the cache, so room remains for quality trade items?

Well, I just went and looked at the topo for it, and it seems fine to me. The cache is just on the edge of a public park at least a city block from the edge of the power station property and even further from the plant itself. There are two benchmarks nearby as well that I would log if I went there.

I like maps. I like them a lot. I like them as much as KA and Criminal like girls. I like to pan maps. In fact, I am a visual learner but not a linear thinker, so I have to SEE what I am doing. For me, panning maps was essential. Most on-line maps allow the person veiwing the map to scroll. It is only practical...often what you really want is not centered on the map, but is located just along a boundary.

My husband is a trucker. I bought him a eTrex Legend for his birthday os that he could find his exits more easily when he was in unfamiliar territory--or so he could find the alternate route when the one he needed was shut down for some reason. --Of course, he NEVER gets lost, so he wouldn't need it for that, now would he! While I was doing online research to try to figure out which unit to buy, I ran across the geocaching site. It seemed interesting. I have a love for maps (I teach Earth Science and Biology and Environmental Science), so I played around with the maps a little. (This was a few months ago, when non-premium members could still scroll and zoom on the maps). I found a few caches just a few blocks from our house. When hubby got his gift, he thought it was very cool. He took it on a 700 mile trip the next day and had tons of fun just with the maps. Out of curiousity, we decided to go see if we could find any of those caches near us. Some were easy, some were very hard and took several trips to find. They all reminded me of the little treaure boxes that I used to hide when I was a kid. I would draw maps, tear the maps in pieces. Leave clues for my friends as to where to find the pieces and they would try to find them. Whoever found the box got to hide the next one. One cache that we found was along the route I take to work every day. I never suspected a thing...It felt just a little thrilling to know that as adults, we were part of a quasi-secret society of people hiding things under the noses of all the other people who pass by those places, every day, unaware of the little caches sitting there just waiting to be found. Should you try it? Sure. Will you like it as much as we do? Who knows? But you know how to find out....

I read a news article the other day that claimed that Americans in general (by which they meant people who live in the US) are more apt to send rude and offensive emails than anywhere else in the world. When I read it, I was curious as to how they would determine what were deliberate acts of baiting or attacks and what were meant to be "all in good fun"---Anybody a regular reader of geocaching forums from other countries AND the US with insight?