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quote:Originally posted by Jamie Z:Red... that stuff really happen? I could go for the breakfast thing. Jamie Okay: The roses came from a PERSON who lived in the Alberta province. I did nothing to encourage this person and in fact still have no idea how he got my phone number (he would call late at night) or address. He stopped his behavior after I had at him on the phone one evening. The people who showed up and fixed breakfast were Canadians, too. A group of young men who'd bought a van and used it to tour the coast south. They had CB radio in common with me/us. They came by, asked to 'camp' in our driveway for the night and got up and cooked an English breakfast/brunch the next day. It was HUGE! I've never seen so much meat or beans on a breakfast menu. The details behind this are kinda weird. Ask me in email... And the Harley boy? He was from Alaska. Six foot lots, 250 lbs. and hadn't bathed in two weeks. He'd fallen in love with my picture and told his wife he was coming south to 'get me' (they were 'swingers'!). This occurance was pre-Steak and my previous husband was a five-foot-ten computer nerd with bottle-bottomed glasses. The police took care of THAT one... I just wish that my fan-base was a bit less on the bizarre side... It's not whether or not you pick your nose that matters, but where you put the booger...

quote:Originally posted by Jamie Z:Red... that stuff really happen? I could go for the breakfast thing. Jamie Okay: The roses came from a PERSON who lived in the Alberta province. I did nothing to encourage this person and in fact still have no idea how he got my phone number (he would call late at night) or address. He stopped his behavior after I had at him on the phone one evening. The people who showed up and fixed breakfast were Canadians, too. A group of young men who'd bought a van and used it to tour the coast south. They had CB radio in common with me/us. They came by, asked to 'camp' in our driveway for the night and got up and cooked an English breakfast/brunch the next day. It was HUGE! I've never seen so much meat or beans on a breakfast menu. The details behind this are kinda weird. Ask me in email... And the Harley boy? He was from Alaska. Six foot lots, 250 lbs. and hadn't bathed in two weeks. He'd fallen in love with my picture and told his wife he was coming south to 'get me' (they were 'swingers'!). This occurance was pre-Steak and my previous husband was a five-foot-ten computer nerd with bottle-bottomed glasses. The police took care of THAT one... I just wish that my fan-base was a bit less on the bizarre side... It's not whether or not you pick your nose that matters, but where you put the booger...

I agree with unclerojelio... A cache? My favorite! Any cache is 'good', but I do sigh with frustration when I see that the number of caches within 100 miles shows a number or two up, only to discover that the new ones are virtuals. I don't hate virtuals... okay, yes they bug me, if only because the people who place them out here seem to do it in 'serial' fashion. I could place virtuals all day if I only wanted to get my placed count up, but I like to make the caches I place worth driving the distance for. If I find a historical marker that would make a good virtual, I will make a traditional out of it by using the marker as a waypoint for an offset. I love using local history in my caches, and anyone who has done one of mine can tell I put some work into them. The majority of virts are just stopping points along the way to another place. Give me a decent traditional that isn't too tough for terrain (and I don't mean drive-bys), or a multi-stage that I have to use my brain to get to any of the legs for and I'm wearing the tip off of my walking stick to get to it. ---------- Lori aka: RedwoodRed KF6VFI "I don't get lost, I investigate alternative destinations." GeoGadgets Team Website Comics, Video Games and Movie Fansite It's not whether or not you pick your nose that matters, but where you put the booger...

I agree with unclerojelio... A cache? My favorite! Any cache is 'good', but I do sigh with frustration when I see that the number of caches within 100 miles shows a number or two up, only to discover that the new ones are virtuals. I don't hate virtuals... okay, yes they bug me, if only because the people who place them out here seem to do it in 'serial' fashion. I could place virtuals all day if I only wanted to get my placed count up, but I like to make the caches I place worth driving the distance for. If I find a historical marker that would make a good virtual, I will make a traditional out of it by using the marker as a waypoint for an offset. I love using local history in my caches, and anyone who has done one of mine can tell I put some work into them. The majority of virts are just stopping points along the way to another place. Give me a decent traditional that isn't too tough for terrain (and I don't mean drive-bys), or a multi-stage that I have to use my brain to get to any of the legs for and I'm wearing the tip off of my walking stick to get to it. ---------- Lori aka: RedwoodRed KF6VFI "I don't get lost, I investigate alternative destinations." GeoGadgets Team Website Comics, Video Games and Movie Fansite It's not whether or not you pick your nose that matters, but where you put the booger...

LC and oregone... I hope that you two will call us if you head further south or toward the coast. Email me for our phone number. We'll be in Cave Junction area on Sunday... maybe we can buy you pizza? (Wild River, YEAH! They have an inhouse brewery.... ) ---------- Lori aka: RedwoodRed KF6VFI "I don't get lost, I investigate alternative destinations." GeoGadgets Team Website Comics, Video Games and Movie Fansite It's not whether or not you pick your nose that matters, but where you put the booger...

LC and oregone... I hope that you two will call us if you head further south or toward the coast. Email me for our phone number. We'll be in Cave Junction area on Sunday... maybe we can buy you pizza? (Wild River, YEAH! They have an inhouse brewery.... ) ---------- Lori aka: RedwoodRed KF6VFI "I don't get lost, I investigate alternative destinations." GeoGadgets Team Website Comics, Video Games and Movie Fansite It's not whether or not you pick your nose that matters, but where you put the booger...

Dave lives south of me, near the Eureka area. If I'm not mistaken, by his logs he is a student at Humboldt State. That might be one reason he uses a bike to visit caches - he doesn't have a car at all. Happens a lot with college students. I wrote to Dave in email when I first saw his post, instead of responding in the forum. He never responded to me in email. Maybe he thinks I am too pushy... He is right about the terrain, though I am amazed that he would attempt the area of THIS MOC on a bike in the first place. It is far up Hwy. 299 which is busy with logging trucks. Log trucks are infamous for eating bicyclists. I used to be a volunteer emergency responder here, and have peeled too many of them off of the asphalt, so I know. The area, though, is gorgeous and a great place to hide a cache. If Dave needs a ride I'm sure we could arrange something, but even then, he couldn't log it. I am surprised at Dave's vitriol, however. There are many traditional caches left within 30 miles of him that he has not yet done. I know, because I've done them all and they are on my watch list. Most of them are pretty simple and he's actually "ridden" near some of those to get to ones he DID find. Give it time, Dave. The hiders of the MOC will probably realize that not too many people will head up that direction to do their cache and make it traditional non-MOC after a month or two. It is the only MOC within a hundred miles of us, so we see it as novel. Though initially I was against MOC's, I will be placing one here shortly. I took great pains and spent a lot of money over time putting it together, and it is an experiment. After two or three months, depending on how popular (or unpopular) it is, I will change it to a non-MOC. I hope you can overlook this one cache, Dave and move on and look for the many other caches that are available to you. ---------- Lori aka: RedwoodRed KF6VFI "I don't get lost, I investigate alternative destinations." GeoGadgets Team Website Comics, Video Games and Movie Fansite It's not whether or not you pick your nose that matters, but where you put the booger...

Dave lives south of me, near the Eureka area. If I'm not mistaken, by his logs he is a student at Humboldt State. That might be one reason he uses a bike to visit caches - he doesn't have a car at all. Happens a lot with college students. I wrote to Dave in email when I first saw his post, instead of responding in the forum. He never responded to me in email. Maybe he thinks I am too pushy... He is right about the terrain, though I am amazed that he would attempt the area of THIS MOC on a bike in the first place. It is far up Hwy. 299 which is busy with logging trucks. Log trucks are infamous for eating bicyclists. I used to be a volunteer emergency responder here, and have peeled too many of them off of the asphalt, so I know. The area, though, is gorgeous and a great place to hide a cache. If Dave needs a ride I'm sure we could arrange something, but even then, he couldn't log it. I am surprised at Dave's vitriol, however. There are many traditional caches left within 30 miles of him that he has not yet done. I know, because I've done them all and they are on my watch list. Most of them are pretty simple and he's actually "ridden" near some of those to get to ones he DID find. Give it time, Dave. The hiders of the MOC will probably realize that not too many people will head up that direction to do their cache and make it traditional non-MOC after a month or two. It is the only MOC within a hundred miles of us, so we see it as novel. Though initially I was against MOC's, I will be placing one here shortly. I took great pains and spent a lot of money over time putting it together, and it is an experiment. After two or three months, depending on how popular (or unpopular) it is, I will change it to a non-MOC. I hope you can overlook this one cache, Dave and move on and look for the many other caches that are available to you. ---------- Lori aka: RedwoodRed KF6VFI "I don't get lost, I investigate alternative destinations." GeoGadgets Team Website Comics, Video Games and Movie Fansite It's not whether or not you pick your nose that matters, but where you put the booger...

Choberiba aka: Eric O'Conner is so shy that he's posted numerous photos claiming that they are "the real" him when in fact he scammed that pic of the 'net somewhere and tried to pawn it off on us... 'course, the pic of that muscular Hispanic gentleman in the tank top with his head out of the shot had a pretty attractive torso... AHEM! I know that guys get stalked, but not as often as females. Be honest, how many of you out there are axe-murderers and serial stalkers, raise your hands! Hmmm.. that many, huh? The vagueness of my location is more to prove a point than to be elusive. So many folks believe that Oregon begins somewhere north of the Golden Gate Bridge. Unbelievably, I live 400 miles north of the Bay area and I'm still south of the border. There are so few geocachers where I live, and having posted pics of myself, my truck, my other half and knowing that there are only 3 active cachers in this city... not to mention that I own my own business, etc. This is a small town. Just ask anyone if they know me or know of me. They can probably point the way to my house. My privacy was taken away when I signed up for an ISP. I have had strange men from Canada (why always Canucks?) send roses to my home, I've had people I don't know stop by to fix me breakfast (yikes!) and I had a guy drive his Harley to my front door and tell my other half straight out that he wanted to "take me away"... all of this with no encouragement from me. The world is getting smaller and the internet is the shrinking agent. Anybody who really wants to find you will. Hell, Choberiba gives out his cellphone number on cache pages! (I charge a dollar for each time I give it out) I live in rural, small world Northern California. Thank you for asking. Steak works graveyards so you'll know when to stop by... at 8 a.m. just before he comes to bed! It's not whether or not you pick your nose that matters, but where you put the booger...

Choberiba aka: Eric O'Conner is so shy that he's posted numerous photos claiming that they are "the real" him when in fact he scammed that pic of the 'net somewhere and tried to pawn it off on us... 'course, the pic of that muscular Hispanic gentleman in the tank top with his head out of the shot had a pretty attractive torso... AHEM! I know that guys get stalked, but not as often as females. Be honest, how many of you out there are axe-murderers and serial stalkers, raise your hands! Hmmm.. that many, huh? The vagueness of my location is more to prove a point than to be elusive. So many folks believe that Oregon begins somewhere north of the Golden Gate Bridge. Unbelievably, I live 400 miles north of the Bay area and I'm still south of the border. There are so few geocachers where I live, and having posted pics of myself, my truck, my other half and knowing that there are only 3 active cachers in this city... not to mention that I own my own business, etc. This is a small town. Just ask anyone if they know me or know of me. They can probably point the way to my house. My privacy was taken away when I signed up for an ISP. I have had strange men from Canada (why always Canucks?) send roses to my home, I've had people I don't know stop by to fix me breakfast (yikes!) and I had a guy drive his Harley to my front door and tell my other half straight out that he wanted to "take me away"... all of this with no encouragement from me. The world is getting smaller and the internet is the shrinking agent. Anybody who really wants to find you will. Hell, Choberiba gives out his cellphone number on cache pages! (I charge a dollar for each time I give it out) I live in rural, small world Northern California. Thank you for asking. Steak works graveyards so you'll know when to stop by... at 8 a.m. just before he comes to bed! It's not whether or not you pick your nose that matters, but where you put the booger...

I would think that if a 4x4 was required to access a cache that the rating for terrain and difficulty would be higher - a 3 or 4 for terrain. The requirement of a 4x4 falls under "specialized equipment", I would think. If you restrict your search to rated 3 caches and up you'll have better luck. It's not whether or not you pick your nose that matters, but where you put the booger...

quote:Originally posted by THE WILD BUNCH: WHY IS IT THAT THOSE WHO HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY CAN'T SAY IT, WHILE THOSE WHO HAVE NOTHING TO SAY KEEP SAYING IT. ANONYMOUS THANKS, THE WILD BUNCH P.S. ENOUGH WITH THE KID BASHING.... NOT SURE WHATS WORSE A CACHE WITH NOTHING IN IT OR THOSE WHO WHINE ABOUT IT.... I don't think that anyone was bashing kids, or you were spending so much time adding smilie icons that you didn't read the posts? Just picked out the parts you found offensive? If I'm b|tching about anything it is the parents who allow their kids to take what they want from a cache without considering that you/they don't have anything SUITABLE to trade for what they've taken. If that bothers you, perhaps you are one of those parents and the shoe fits? And what was anonymous about your post? ---------- Lori aka: RedwoodRed KF6VFI "I don't get lost, I investigate alternative destinations." GeoGadgets Team Website Comics, Video Games and Movie Fansite

quote:Originally posted by THE WILD BUNCH: WHY IS IT THAT THOSE WHO HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY CAN'T SAY IT, WHILE THOSE WHO HAVE NOTHING TO SAY KEEP SAYING IT. ANONYMOUS THANKS, THE WILD BUNCH P.S. ENOUGH WITH THE KID BASHING.... NOT SURE WHATS WORSE A CACHE WITH NOTHING IN IT OR THOSE WHO WHINE ABOUT IT.... I don't think that anyone was bashing kids, or you were spending so much time adding smilie icons that you didn't read the posts? Just picked out the parts you found offensive? If I'm b|tching about anything it is the parents who allow their kids to take what they want from a cache without considering that you/they don't have anything SUITABLE to trade for what they've taken. If that bothers you, perhaps you are one of those parents and the shoe fits? And what was anonymous about your post? ---------- Lori aka: RedwoodRed KF6VFI "I don't get lost, I investigate alternative destinations." GeoGadgets Team Website Comics, Video Games and Movie Fansite

Knowing a wee (hee hee!) bit about animal husbandry from my past life on the farm, I had no doubts as to how the, uh, fluid found its way into the container. My issue is with the size of the container and the fact that someone just tossed it off, I mean, OUT! like that. What were they thinking? Is it possible that a farmer/rancher had it stolen and the theives didn't realize what it was until they got it out into the woods? Why does a naturally occuring, uh, substance require a toxic warning label? The only situation I could imagine it being toxic in is in a room full of fertile female goats or pigs... right? Why did I feel compelled to comment on this thread? Morbid human curiousity? Oh and... well, never mind. My days of working at the thoroughbred farm has left me scarred for life. I saw things at the age of 12-13 that ruin a young woman's perspective on, well, relationships shall we say. *shudder* ---------- Lori aka: RedwoodRed KF6VFI "I don't get lost, I investigate alternative destinations." GeoGadgets Team Website Comics, Video Games and Movie Fansite

Stomp all you want, Geo Ode. That kind of behavior is unacceptable and ridiculous. Our kind Western European upbringing has trained us not to comment even when we see people (grown-ups and children) behaving in such a rude manner. We need to cast off our mental restrictions and step up and say "NO!" I understand that it is easy for me to type that and not have to face it myself, but it something that we all have to do. There is a geocacher in my area who constantly trades down and I'm going to call them on it. "Took a nice collectible $5 shot glass, left a twenty-five cent pair of dice"... uh-huh. It wouldn't bother me if this was something that happens now and then, but if one person sees an item that they really like and consider valuable, they shouldn't trade it for something that has little or no intrinsic (sp?) value. If they didn't bring something worth trading for that shot glass, there were plenty of items in that cache worth what they had to trade. What is really funny? This same person comments in forums about the poor quality of cache contents! No go figure.

quote:Originally posted by Wander Lost:That is cool!! I like the idea of a special gift to the first finder. The only other two groups in this area that place caches consistently have almost always put in either an engraved medal (looks like an Olympic medal w/ribbon attached) or a blue ribbon for the first finders. We thought that that was the way everybody did it... and then we cached on the second day. We try to do the same thing, but instead of being a copy cat, I try to always make it something different. I've put in lottery tickets, a special pen... stuff like that with a note specifying that it was for the first finder. It always seems to be appreciated. I'm just waiting for the first finder prize of a Map V! ---------- Lori aka: RedwoodRed KF6VFI "I don't get lost, I investigate alternative destinations." GeoGadgets Team Website Comics, Video Games and Movie Fansite

quote:Originally posted by Lazyboy & Mitey Mite:You guys better not go for a raid without me. We can caravan up there. Most of the mud has fallen off of the GeoBeast since our little Klamath visit already. It's ready to go!! Having done the Hillsboro/Portland cache-thing, I only have one thing to say: If you're going up there to log the MOST caches, don't ask which ones are the coolest. We did only the "coolest", most recommended caches and some of those (like Raiders of the Lost Cache) take hours. Not suitable for a mega-cache excursion. I'm ready to go again. Unfortunately, Steak's work schedule just won't allow it. I'd sure like him to get a job with a regular two days off together... sheesh. ---------- Lori aka: RedwoodRed KF6VFI "I don't get lost, I investigate alternative destinations." GeoGadgets Team Website Comics, Video Games and Movie Fansite

quote:Originally posted by smoochnme:I'm not sure why your so upset that some geocachers are against locationless caches? If you don't believe that there are cachers out there who are doing these things just to increase their count totals, I think you are being naive. I really don't have a problem with increasing your numbers if that's somebody's "thing". But, I have yet to see anyone on any of these related threads say "I like locationless caches because they are an easy way to get my numbers up" I'm NOT upset that others don't consider locationless caches legitimate, but that they constantly bring it up in these forums. What I found MOST irritating were comments in this thread made by others who stated that only straight-on "traditional" geocaches should be considered in anyone's found count. You are right in that a majority of the locationless are lame. I won't deny it. What is even worse is that some folks can't even go by the rules of the lame ones. For example: if the cache requires the finder to take pictures of a hippy VW bus, and the images are for just some junked VW bus in a scrap yard. That proves that the finder is desperate to get their count up, to the point of *gasp!* cheating, IMO. Or when someone does 20 murals. In that instance the owner of the cache doesn't specify only one find per cacher, but come on! Save some for others to find, since it DOES specify each mural can only be "found" once. I think it is important for the administration to place guidelines on virtuals and locationless caches, but, as has been REPEATEDLY debated in these forums, folks will cheat. Folks will pad their find counts. Those folks are only hurting themselves. But, to be told that the multicaches completed do not count, or have a lesser "value" than the standard traditional caches, well, the folks that think that they can place a value on what caches I've done can think again. If anyone is really that worried about the count of another, it is easy to look at what caches they have logged as finds and make a determination on your own. If anyone thinks that I am any less a hardcore, find-it-or-die geocacher because of the three locationless caches I've done, then it is nobodies problem but theirs. If someone wants to log one of the last drive-in movie theaters on the west coast as a cache, and drives 100 miles to accomplish that, so be it. It is not for anyone but the cache owner to judge their level of completion. If they have a nice mix of traditional, multi-, micro-, virtual and locationless caches on their "found" list, then maybe they should be accorded a bit of respect. My family/team and I have 66 finds and I DARE someone to tell me that those 66 have any less "value" based on who placed them, where I live, how many years I've been doing this, whatever. I'm sure they wouldn't have the nads to tell me to my face, so that I could show them the scars or the chiropractor bills... HAH! NOTE: I DO think it is foolish for folks to log their own caches as finds, virtual, locationless or otherwise. As for taking pictures of the GPS for locationless? In some cases the cache owners require it, and the finder needs to post the coordinates to consider it a find. I personally think it is a nice touch, though I have seen folks log them and "neglect" or make excuses for that part... pretty weak. Again I say, Those who stress out over the "value" of the find counts of others need to mind their own business, get a life and go out and find a few caches. For some this is a competition - it is human nature, it can't be helped - but when someone else's cache found numbers are something that others find threatening? THAT is a problem that they need to look to themselves for, maybe get professional help. This is a friendly game/sport and it shouldn't be something that people feel the need to put down others over.

quote:Originally posted by BassoonPilot:This is a good idea. I think I'd make the trip out just to drop off all the old AOL 2.0, Compuserve and Prodigy diskettes sitting in a corner of my basement. Junky enough?? Hey, now some of the CD's are okay! I just came across an Earthlink CD that, when you sign up, you get for free a scanner and printer! Now, why wouldn't anyone want that? ---------- Lori aka: RedwoodRed KF6VFI "I don't get lost, I investigate alternative destinations." GeoGadgets Team Website Comics, Video Games and Movie Fansite

quote:Originally posted by Eric O'Connor:Tsk Tsk Tsk I'm so disappointed in you folks. That entire list of actors appeared in my favorite movie. (No cheating by heading to the IMDb) *bzzzzt!* "Eagle Two, this is Eagle Four... You know, I'm just not feeling fresh today?" *bzzzt!* *bzzzt!* "Roger that Eagle Four, we'll swing by Walgreens on the way home" *bzzzt!* You know, I hate to "strike back" here, but I think you're "chasing amy" on that one, Chobe. I mean, you sound like a "clerk" or a "mallrat" with this kind of speculation. You've been hitting your "secret stash" and spouting "dogma" again... I HATE that! I think your "view" is "askew", "Bluntman". Why bother? Your attitude is "chronic"! 'Nuff Said! Comic books? Me? Nah.... ---------- Lori aka: RedwoodRed KF6VFI "I don't get lost, I investigate alternative destinations." GeoGadgets Team Website Comics, Video Games and Movie Fansite

Non-profit, yes. But isn't this under the heading of commercial cache? Did these folks get permission from Jeremy, et al. before going ahead with this? And the most important of all questions: Who has found it so far?

Steak and I have a babysitter lined up for a weekend and we are going to hit the Medford/K.F./Butte Falls area and cache our little brains out. We thought we were PHAT when we did 12 in twelve hours... sheesh! ---------- Lori aka: RedwoodRed KF6VFI "I don't get lost, I investigate alternative destinations." GeoGadgets Team Website Comics, Video Games and Movie Fansite

The San Diego TB is currently in my hands and will be making a jump of 100 miles (or more) south this Thursday or Friday. I will try and put it in a popular cache encouraging folks to move him further and further south! ---------- Lori aka: RedwoodRed KF6VFI "I don't get lost, I investigate alternative destinations." GeoGadgets Team Website Comics, Video Games and Movie Fansite

Now, if Sean Connery, Mel Gibson or Kevin Costner (in that order0 placed a cache, no matter where it was, I'd be on the next transport in that direction! But heck... you could say that about any cache within a hundred miles of me! So, who has written to Wil Wheaton to volunteer taking him Geocaching? I don't live anywhere near him, but I think he probably wouldn't mind it if the person wasn't a slavering idiot about the whole thing (not like me around the above mentioned male actors, right?). Personally, I think that if we got The Shrub involved in geocaching, that would be fun... can you imagine the secret service guys out hunting in the wilds of Alaska for an ammo can? *bzzzzt!* "Eagle Two, this is Eagle Four... have you sited the goal?" *bzzzt!* *bzzzt!* "Negative Eagle Four, and the Boss Eagle is getting pretty uncomfortable in the limo... can you speed this up?" *bzzzt!* ---------- Lori aka: RedwoodRed KF6VFI "I don't get lost, I investigate alternative destinations." GeoGadgets Team Website Comics, Video Games and Movie Fansite

We have a CACHE hidden between Grants Pass and Cave Junction. You don't have to drive to C.J. to get to it, and by now the roads should be nice and clear. It has only been found once, and that person had to be begged to go by the owner of the TB for whom the cache is named. The Bug hasn't moved since, so what does that tell you? Nothing really... I'm giving this cache 45 days to get some activity and if nothing happens I'll archive it and distribute it's remains... How about it Mailleman? Lazyboy? Lone Ranger & Tonto? Peanuthead? All of you other hard-core geocachers need to get out of your protective valley. We've got a multi-cache ready to release designed to get Valley cachers to come to the coast for a little hunt-and-seek fun. ---------- Lori aka: RedwoodRed KF6VFI "I don't get lost, I investigate alternative destinations." GeoGadgets Team Website Comics, Video Games and Movie Fansite