Native20559

Rong Rockin Roddy........ Yes, there are free routing maps. http://garmin.na1400.info/routable.php Thanks Red, that's exactly what I was referring to ... apology accepted Rodney. You really need to get that Garmin chip off your shoulder buddy ...

I suspect Native20559 was asking about the ability to acquire and hold lock in adverse conditions. Any significant differences there? Thx Twolpert, that's correct, I should've been been clearer in my post. Neither unit had any difficulty acquiring and maintaining their lock here in the mountains. Oh and Roddy was misinformed about "having to" buy maps for the Garmins. The 24k topos available on gpsfiledepot.com (amongst other shareware maps available elsewhere), especially the ones built by Oz and Maps4U, are superb and entirely free and easily better than any of the Garmin made topos I have ... Be safe. N

I compared my Oregon with my PN-40 in some of the mountainous areas here (canyons, lodgepole pine tree cover) in CO and found no difference in their respective accuracy. Both were spot on. Be safe. N

Very cool story Rod and heartiest of congrats on the return of the 40! I'd send it back to the "spa" at Delorme for some well deserved TLC. I'm guessing it wouldn't cost much to replace the casing and buttons and they might perform the repairs for you gratis in exchange for rights to your story and some well choreographed publicity photos next to the Jeep on the trail where it was lost. Just a thought, lol. Be Safe. N

I also have the 76CSx which is alot like the 60CSx and though I love it, it's a totally different animal from the 40. You need to stop thinking interms of "if I like it in thirty days" and focus on learning how to use the device and the mapping software and let the process follow it's natural course. The 40 is unlike any GPS I've used before and unfortunatley, the mapping software takes some time to become comfortable with it's tremendous capabilities. This is also a GPS where it helps alot to read the manual and goto the Delorme forums and the delormepn40.wikispaces.com to reduce the time necesasary to get running instead of walking with your 40. Better still would be if you could locate someone with the 40 that's got a better comfort level with the GPS and that can take you under his wing. There are some mapping strategies/download strategies that can help alot in getting what you want on the GPS in the shortest amount of time. The Delorme 7.5 min topoquads rock big time compared to the 1:100k Garmin stock topos (Abovethetimber.com does excellent 7.5's for the Garmin but only for Washington, Utah, and Colorado). Also, the additional HD imagery is fantastic for overlaying with the topo's to get the lay of the land before you even get there (I use this strategy for hunting and there's nothing like it). Take your time and enjoy your new toy. Best of luck. N

Remove the Batteries and let the system "rest" overnight. There are devices called capacitors that hold voltage that need to discharge completely for the hardware to return to it's normal state (it's worth the try). In addition, please try the software Map reinstall before you resort to Garmin repairs. Then ask Garmin for the procedure on the full system reset as well as any other system diagnostics and perform it after the software install. They might correct the problem. Best of luck. N

Thanks Fegen for filling in the gaps with the other method. You are definitely very knowledgable. The only real difference are the maps used and the flexibility of the methods. The important thing is that it works for you. I went the other route because of the higher quality of the maps and the ability to use imagery which hadn't been available yet for the Garmins. That imagery is very close to being easily available and useful for Garmins with the new rastorized imagery capability in the new beta version software available for the Colorado/Oregon series GPS. Hopefully they'll work the bugs out and make it as easy for the non-computer skilled user as it currently is now for the skilled computer user. Anyway, you have options, lol. Good luck. Be safe. N

Based on my personal experience, they represent the next technological rung on the GPS ladder. Are they better? Some would say so because they have paperless capabilities and touch screen technology. I recently bought a 76CSx for myself and a Vista HCx for my daughter. She loves it and I love mine. Compared to the others, I don't see much of a difference and in some cases, it's superior. I also have the Oregon 200 and Delorme PN-40 and I enjoy them also, but they were bought for other uses, but wouldn't trade the simplicity and accuracy of my 76CSx for either for geocaching (especially while using the macro for paperless on GSAK). Hopefully that gives you some perspective. Be safe. N

If you have a brand of lightweights that you like, go with their medium or heavy duty boots. They should have the same fit. Living in Colorado, bouldering tends to be part of any outdoor hiking endeavor. I've worn and loved Asolo and Vasque hvy weight hikers for many years and wouldn't trade them for anything. But I've recently discovered Merrells lt. weight hikers and don't think I'll be going back anytime soon. In fact, my wife and 2 older daughters share the opinion. They fit extremely well with NO BREAK IN PERIOD! We've had no bruising or discomfort of any kind with extended trips, they really rock (excuse the pun)! They run about $125-145 at REI, our favorite toy store! Best of luck. Be safe. N

Easy enough to accomplish with what you have. Being a avid bowhunter myself, I'd always walked the perimeter of the property (if possible) while preseason scouting and saved it as a track. Color the track nice and bright and your set. Recently though I bought the bundled Delorme PN40 pack with the TOPO 8.0 software. This mapping package seems to do it all for me. Takes a while to get the hang of it but becomes very intuitive after a while, and for hunting, THERE IS NO BETTER PACKAGE for me. I have set up the Sat10 imagery layered with the 24k 3D topquad topo's followed by the additional regional 100k maps (which are routable for driving ease) on my unit and am awed by the results. Total flexibility. Talk about being spoiled!!!! Getting a birds eye view of the area AND seeing accurate topo contours allowing one to deal with approach angles, blind location and placement are very easily done. Here in Colorado, scouting can be difficult to find time for but having the ability to look at the same maps on paper, computer AND GPS just rock since you can do most of your scouting sitting down THEN fine tune it afield once you've laid out your approach routes, and blind waypoints. You can even print out hard copies for the putzes you're hunting with back in camp that don't have the same resources you do!!!!! You can even print out an overview of the area for your darling wife with camp locations, routes, etc. so she won't worry. I have done most all of this from Mapsource with my Garmin units without issue and have really, really enjoyed using it as a tool. But being able to include the additional imagery to the "toolset" in the Delorme bundle has changed things quite a bit. And yes, you can just get the mapping software to do all but transferring of maps to your existing GPS, but that's between you and your pocket book to decide! Best of luck. Be safe! N

Unfortunately they get into your wallet pretty good over there. eTopo and Imagery are the same as the Delorme offerings of that type but also offer the BLM series of maps also. In general terms the pricing seems pretty obscene. Example: for Colorado Imagery at $5 per grid or quad (same price for the eTopo 7.5 min quads or BLM quads) for the first 45 grids (the max they can show in thier price list) is $225 ( or 1792 7.5 min quadrangle grids or maps x $5/grid = $8960 for the whole state PER SERIES OF MAP TYPE!!!) vs. the Delorme price (DVD price) is $99 for non-members or $50 for members (people who have purchased their products) FOR THE ENTIRE STATE. If there's something I'm not seeing on this page that reflects other discounted pricing, then I'll apologize now but good grief, thats god aweful pricing. I had thoughts of getting one of the Sierra's sometime in the future once they'd worked the bugs out but it looks like unless my maps from Delorme are able to be adapted to the Lowrance protocol, that purchase has just been put on indefinite HOLD!

go to gpsfiledepot.com and get the free topos for your state/area (and consider the Ibycus street maps as well ). Their very good and cost you nothing to try.

There is a Geocaching app, it costs $9.99. If you are using an iPod Touch, you will need a separate GPS, and of course be in wifi range to update finds and etc.. http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore...242503&mt=8 This may be better and it's free, at least I think so ... http://www.maccaching.com/

Personnally, I like them both and use them both for different purposes. I have the 76CSX (very similar to the 60CX) and the PN-40 ( and a Oregon 200, amongst others) and they're all remarkably accurate, have very fast signal locks, and maintain their locks in nasty cover and terrain. There are ways around the paperless issue that need not handicapp you, especially if you use the GSAK utility. I dislike the tiny display and battery eating characteristics of the PN-40 intensly; far more than the benefit of the paperless feature. But, I love it for other more creative technology reasons which others may not need or want. But anywhooo ... I believe that they're both great GPS's and I'm reasonably confident that you will not be disappointed with your 60CX in any way, I know I haven't been with my 76CSX. Their incredibly easy and fun to use. You may want to grow into a PN series GPS later on, but that's your choice and if you do, you won't be dissappointed with that purchase either. BTW, you may want to consider a 2-4gb card because of the flexibility in numbers of maps and available detail that you'll want later (you'll find that like with so many other things, more is always better here also). Best of luck and have fun with your new toy!

I also must applaud the skills of the GSAK folks!!! What a tremendous tool! I have been using heavily on my Garmin 76CSX, my daughters Vista HCX, my Oregon 200, and Delorme PN-40 WITHOUT a Hiccup! The paperless PQ capabilities are amazing. I have been having a lot of fun exploring the GSAKs features on not just my Oregon but NOW my PN-40 also (god I wish this thing had a bigger screen and better power conservation. LOL ). This program really rocks! I spent a good part of yesterday uninstalling a bunch of redundant software that GSAK has replaced. YeeeHaaww! Clyde and the members of your team, thank you very, very much!!! Oh and btw, did I say I really liked this program? Kindest regards, N

Acquiring the Almanac on a new unit has always done good things for the accuracy of my 200 whenever I drive any significant distance (+ 100 miles) from home. Do the same thing for my 76CSX (very similar to your Legend's accuracy). I usually set ot on a table or car hood and wait 20 to30 minutes in "normal" mode (not battery saver) and that's usually all it takes. Give it a try. If that doesn't improve things, try a factory reset of the unit. You have have had a bad update or something that affected the operation of the unit, hard to tell but since it's new you won't lose anything trying. Good luck.

The PN-30 and PN-40 are virtually identical except for the electronic compass and altimeter so I hope you'll excuse my using the PN-40 for reference here. I have both the PN-40 and the Oregon 200 and they are like night and day. First I like them both considerably so no slamming of either model here. The Oregon is deadly accurate, easy to operate, and about as intuitive as anything I've ever handled (even if they had shipped the owner's manual there would've been no need for it). Sure the screen may be a little less bright than we'd like in direct sunlight, but have yet to find anything that isn't. I think the primary difference between this and the Delorme is that right out of the box, this unit is FUN with a capital F. There is simply nothing that is frustratingly difficult to work with on this unit except how to find more time to use it ALOT!!! The PN-40 is also deadly accurate but has a nasty familiarity or fun (rather than a learning) curve that goes with it's use. The display though very nice and appropriate for its intended use, is way too small and not as easy to read with the tiny fonts, and don't even think about using this device for auto-routing. The manual was apparently written by a technical writer because though it's well written it is difficult to follow for someone lacking some reasonable GPS experience (I have lots and it still took me several hors to get thru many of the features and functions). Data transfers are not easy but once you learn, it's easy, but takes a while to get there. Working with Topo! is also not easy to learn, takes a good long while to follow the tutorials and the help manual to figure out the nuances of waypoint and map transfers but there again once you figure it out and do it a few times it becomes second nature. I idea here is that it takes a bit of work before you can be productive and get to the point where it's more fun to use.