chrisrayn

All of this has made me feel numb to the whole issue and forget what we were talking about.

Eventually a reviewer (or a friend of a reviewer) will find that cache and the owner will discover that there's a work-around for that work-around: Point taken. That's why I tried to be clear that it was merely a work-around, and not valid, and that to be consistent with guidelines, it's best to make the stage actually non-physical as to not to violate the 528 rule. I am a friend to the reviewer, or try to be. :-)

You could also just make the stage that comes near to the traditional cache a "non-physical stage," to which the rules do not apply. Technically, the stage would need to be non-physical, but if the previous physical stage gives instructions to look for a container at the next coords, despite the fact that it SAYS it's a non-physical, it could serve as a "work around." However, I don't know how ethical this is considered to be. It's merely a way to make it work in the event that you can't just make your physical stage a non-physical one.

Both are pretty much drilling situations though.

Garmin GPSmap 60CSx: I use the lanyard that came with my Apisphere Geomate Jr. It works a lot better than the one that came with the unit. When I'm signing, I just let the GPS dangle. I'm a big guy and pretty good at ignoring annoyances, so it's never a problem. That particular lanyard slides on and off my neck pretty easily as well. When I'm in the car, I take it off. When I'm on the trail, I slip it on. I rarely dangle upside down from anything, so I've yet to lose it (and I just knocked on wood to hopefully keep that from happening). :-)

I'm not trying to be mean like the others were...but what does the last part mean? I can't decipher it for the life of me. But anyways...I agree with the other guys. I don't mind difficult hides, but just try not to make them "needle in a haystack" hides, at least not in broad daylight with the sun beating down. If I'm looking for a magnetic nano that you just dropped on the ground or into a hole in a tree, I'd probably just get pissed. I know that "turn over every leaf" is a phrase, but perhaps it shouldn't be in geocaching, at least sometimes. Excellent camo is most appreciated. Puzzles can be neat, if they have to be solved on site. I've always wanted to see one that was electronic and only opens for 1 minute each day, like something out of World of Warcraft. Terrain ratings don't really bother me...I'll do whatever it takes to get to a cache...but I want all the difficulty points to be accrued on site...not milked from the terrain rating. If you have a true five on a traditional that doesn't require me to look closely at every rock in a rock pile, I'm all for it.

Have you checked out the Cache-a-Maniacs, Cachers of the Round Table, GeoTalk, or Geocaching Podcast? They are completely about geocaching. Sorry if you already knew about these...I just enjoy them. And actually, I heard about Geocaching from a podcast called "The Totally Rad Show." www.totallyradshow.com. It's pretty funny...reviews video games, movies, and other things for techno geeks. On the website you can find video of them finding their first cache. It's a pretty cool show. :-)

Oh I do. I recently found a cache that leaked water and into which someone placed Lime Salt. My hands were sticky...I had to add a log. As per CITO, my car smelled like rotten limes for a week. The point is: that cache had a description. I realize the lime salt wasn't the CO's fault, but there's a lot more to complain about than a perfectly good cache without the extras. I don't see the cache page until after I've found a cache.

So there is really no difference between this cache, which provided an historical description of the barn of the famous heavyweight champion Jim Jefferies that used to stand in this location; and this cache, whose descrition is "Another Burbank hide to help increase the cache density in the area."? Of course there is a difference. The latter didn't need a description though the one given is apt. On the other hand if I take you to the right spot with a cache the kind of location that speaks for itself, I may very well choose not to lessen the nice ending by mere words. Exactly. There's a difference, of course. Person 1 wanted an interesting description because it was warranted. Person 2 did not because it wasn't.

In regard to the actual issue at hand...I could care less if there's a description, honestly. When I go hunt geocaches, I just load the pocket query into my 60CSx, add categories to put in the description. All I see for every cache I do is 8 characters of the title, the cache size, diff/terr, and the first 14 characters of the hint. If a hint isn't available, I get the cache owner's username and whether the last four loggers have found it. So...description is pointless to me. Now, if I'm looking for a multi or an unknown, those require descriptions. I would be irritated if I was supposed to find multiple stages or the actual coordinates with no description of how. You have to remember though...virtuals are gone. The idea of finding a neat location more than finding a log to sign may be over or evolving. For many people the game is nothing more than signing a log and moving on. A description is not a 100% necessity. If someone puts an LPC in a parking lot, is a description REALLY that necessary? Who really cares about the historical significance of the lamp post? Maybe that's a little cynical, but you have to admit: a number of caches really don't need descriptions.

mmmm ... to compensate? GC1XB0Y Point taken. Es ridiculoso!

At first, I was thinking the same thing about your topic. And in regards to you saying "that's low" to 9key...did you think he was referring to you? I'm pretty sure was his target. And I must say, I find that avatar hilarious on so many levels. :-)

Go buy an ammo box and put a pine cone in it. DONE.

See, that just isn't true. A wise person once told me "The game is something different to everyone, and we can't get mad when the game isn't what we want it to be for every John or Jane Q. Cacher." Wait, that was you. So, are we getting mad and calling people rude, or are we letting people play the way they want? I'm confused... Idk...I see what you're saying...I just don't like manipulating when an FTF is logged to seduce more people to come to a cache. Just seems...dishonest, I guess. I'd prefer a cache log be as accurate a representation of actual timelines as possible. Now, I understand that some people are on a trip and won't be near a computer for a week or something along those lines, and that's unavoidable. But not logging an FTF to get more people to come seems dishonest. I don't care what people find valuable in the game, but I don't like dishonesty or inaccuracy in anything out there, not just geocaching. What if all the coords were like 50 feet off? What if people wrote misleading information on all of their cache pages to keep people from finding their caches? What if the hints were actually lies instead of good hints? I don't like any of these practices...I don't think that's a "game," I think it's...idk...just not fair.

Which is incredibly inconsiderate and rude! If a person can't log the FTF right away due to being on the road, heading straight to work after making the find, or another legitimate reason, fine. But a person who deliberately waits on logging in order to "trick" people sounds like the type of person who thinks it's fun to put on a hideous mask and jump out of the shrubbery to make 2 year olds dressed as Winnie-the-Pooh scream and cry on Halloween! If you are STF and are in the position to log online first, simply start your log out with "Not FTF, but first to log." or "Logging first, but not FTF." Or even "Not FTF, that honor goes to (insert name of cacher)." Yeah, see, I feel the same way. I just recently listened to an older "Cachers of the Round Table" or "Geocaching Podcast", can't remember which, and they said that sometimes it's polite to the cache owner to wait a couple days before logging your FTF so that people won't stop hunting it immediately. I completely disagree. That's pretty rude...and honestly, it shouldn't be a cache owner's goal to have as many people as possible log it when it's first released. The best thing we can hope for, as cache owners, is that the FTF happens within a week (especially if you're in a small town like me), and that people log their finds right when they get them. I want the FTF to log as fast as freaking possible on my caches. I don't want my cache to be a source of irritation for any people from the Dallas area who drove all the way out to Commerce to nab a couple of FTFs. Now, I could be immature and say, "Well, if they are irritated, that's their problem! This game isn't about numbers or FTFs, it's about making the grab!" See, that just isn't true. The game is something different to everyone, and we can't get mad when the game isn't what we want it to be for every John or Jane Q. Cacher.

bout 2 months. that's a normal time. after that though, i'd complain. nah, just kidding. i don't put too much stock in it though...if i get it published in 3 days i'm happy. if i get an ftf within 2 days i'm ecstatic. if i get a 2nd to find within a month, well that hasn't happened to me yet so i don't know how i'd feel. lol if you submit it, it will be reviewed. :-)

how on earth did you paint that ? My brother makes these tiny little sculpy statues for people for Dungeons and Dragons sometimes, and he paints them with the tiniest brushes you can buy cheaply, and a toothpick. He's pretty dadgum good. So...maybe that way? :-s

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~note to self~ Add bolt cutters to geotools (just in case of locked windows) Just kidding Bolt cutters: the right combination every time.

Could I literally just straight up STEAL this idea and use it in Texas? We don't have much flooding. :-) I loved that movie and saw it when it first came out. I've even seen Following, Nolan's first movie. But if you're an educated man, you'll agree: immature poets imitate, mature poets steal. :-)

Hey, I've been placing caches in my town for a short while now, and I think I'm getting a little better each time. I want to remain versatile, though, so I want to branch out and do a multi in one of my local parks and a puzzle cache in another. However, I've noticed that what I usually do when I arrive at ANY location is start thinking of the best place to hide a cache. I'll go and check that spot immediately. I went through one park and found a number of such places, probably around 15 to 20, that I wanted to put a cache. Here's the thing, though: If I were to put a cache in any of those locations, it would be really easy to find, and the cacher probably wouldn't look twice at the scenery or explore the park. It's a small park, around 800x300 feet in size. I haven't seen anything against this, but can "Geosense" be the puzzle? Can I put the bogus coords in the center of the park and have the cachers who look for it merely arrive and begin using their "Geosense" to locate a cache? It's, to me, better than a typical "needle in a haystack" hide, since cachers will have to use caching instincts rather than sifting through a pile of rocks. Also, just as a side issue, I believe I would definitely list the cache size, and not go below Micro, so the cacher had some idea what to look for. The diff would probably be around a 3 or 3.5 because of the larger search area. I'd probably include a somewhat decent hint like "not in a tree" to the Encrypted Hint section to at least narrow down the search. Is this acceptable as an idea? Thanks for your thoughts! p.s. Knowschad, I'm sorry in advance.

Yeah, I've heard that the 550t does not let you delete individual caches. You have to delete the original file you loaded. One of the many reasons the person I spoke with suggested the 60CSx over the Oregon series.

Actually, and I'm sad I know this, you're thinking of Bacardi.

Did it. Used one. Worked perfect. Thank you almighty knowschad. :-)

That's absolutely beautiful. :-( If I wasn't so in love with gsak, I might actually pay for the upgrade. :-s