Rebore
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5 hours ago, nextlogicalstep said:
I did once have a reviewer threaten me with a $10000 mischief fine for a cache on public property...
That definetly falls under "horrible" in my book. It's also quite disturbing that you were told you are responsible for all actions of other cachers in the area, even if they are not related to the search for your cache.
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Are you aware that the burried/digging hole guideline has been softened recently?
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38 minutes ago, baer2006 said:
I couldn't have said it better
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I'm the owner of quite a few difficult puzzle caches, and I don't like it at all that final coordinates are regularly shared without any explanation about the puzzle. The problem in the community here is that many take it for granted that finals are "shared". Nobody seems to have the slightest bit of bad conscience when doing it. It's especially true for D5- or T5-rated caches. My "solution" to the problem was to downgrade most of my D5 puzzles to D4,5 max, and to take all T5 finals down from the tree and make it T2 max.
As a reaction, I placed a D5/T5 puzzle cache, which can only be found if you have understood how the puzzle works. Either by solving it yourself, or getting a thorough explanation by someone who has. Needless to say, it's a lot of extra work for me (basically, I have to move the final after every find). But it's quite telling to see, who has not logged a find so far, even if they usually don't seem to have a lot of difficulties to find other D5 hides in the vicinity
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It's amazing that you put so much effort in your hides. If life takes me to your area, I'll surely look for at least one of them.
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26 minutes ago, NYPaddleCacher said:
In the cache description it states:
"The cache is right above you, when you look carefully you can see it."
I wonder why the CO gives a 5 for difficulty.
It's not a D5 and never was. Maybe the owner thought "That's a really hard cache to find, compared to what I have found so far". I don't know, and honetly, I don't care. It took a while until the cache was spotted, so maybe it's D2 or even D3. A D5 would have been a very poor choice for this location, however.
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9 hours ago, dprovan said:
Nope, no exaggeration. Let's figure out how to make it the same in your area. (Hint: 9 times out of 10, the reason things are better in my area is because geocachers take responsibility for what's happening instead of wasting time complaining about reviewers or Groundspeak.)
Okay, let's see. What can I do to stop people sharing final coordinates of difficult Multis and Mysteries, so that the owners don't think "Why bother? I'll find another pasttime where nobody irks me." Ah yes, I know. It's the owners fault, because they can't just ignore those people. A find is a find, be happy.
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33 minutes ago, cheech gang said:
My reviewer is a dog.
My reviewer is a high horse with a hat.
Guys, guys, you got that all wrong. This thread is meant to complain about reviewers, not to praise them.
Just kidding of course, nice to hear that there is mostly a good relationship between the reviewer and the community.
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Just for reference, that's the cache I was referring to. I climbed up to it, but I didn't see it until I was back on the ground. I have no bad feelings because I didn't climb up again just to sign the log.
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Copy from the "What irks you most" thread:
There are only few reviewers in my country, I think two right now. The nickname of the local one being in charge since the beginning is "High Horse" in the online community. He once hosted the "official" geocaching forum for our country, until he pissed off so many people that one of them set up a new forum, and most users switched. We also had a very motivated reviewer once, who was really engaged with and liked by the community, but he threw the towel after a few months/years. I can't tell for sure, but I don't think it was only the community that irked him. Many oldtimers miss the times when a foreign reviewer (the one who published the first caches in my country) was in charge.
So yes, it's absolutely possible that cachers are not fond of their reviewer, and the reason is not just because he didn't publish a cache due to a guideline violation.
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1 hour ago, briansnat said:
If the cache is in a tree, on top of a large boulder, on a rock face, cliff, etc., I only log a find if I make the climb to retreive the cache or return it. If I don't make the climb, I don't log the find.
I remember a heated local discussion on this from my early years and I still stand by my viewpoint. If I was part of the team that made the find possible, I'll log it, even if I was just handling the rope on the ground, securing the climber. There's no need that s/he throws down the the container or logbook for me to sign to adhere to some strange ruleset. Also, tree climbs are not the way to show off your skills anyway, go find a rock or wall to climb with an official (climber) difficulty rating. Just saying
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Are you not satisfied with the work of your reviewer?
Why? Does it take too long until your cache is published, do they interpret the guidelines in a different way you do, disable or archive caches where it's not adequate, ignore NA logs or is there any other reason?
No name calling, just reasons, here's the place.
ETA: If you are afraid to post here because of possible consequences for your hides, feel free to say that, too.
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There are only few reviewers in my country, I think two right now. The nickname of the local one being in charge since the beginning is "High Horse" in the online community. He once hosted the "official" geocaching forum for our country, until he pissed off so many people that one of them set up a new forum, and most users switched. We also had a very motivated reviewer once, who was really engaged with and liked by the community, but he threw the towel after a few months/years. I can't tell for sure, but I don't think it wasn't only the community that irked him. Many oldtimers miss the times when a foreign reviewer (the one who published the first caches in my country) was in charge.
So yes, it's absolutely possible that cachers are not fond of their reviewer, and the reason is not just because he didn't publish a cache due to a guideline violation.
If this post is too off topic for this thread, I'm not irked if it gets deleted or moved.
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16 minutes ago, dprovan said:
Where'd this come from? I don't think anyone could have been more supportive of gasbottle's comments than I was, and I encouraged him to take them somewhere they'd do some good. How could you possibly interpret that as me thinking everything was just find and anyone that didn't think so would need to justify thinking otherwise?
I'm really sorry you live in such a miserable community. I definitely want us all to do whatever we can to improve it. The irk thread isn't the place to make that happen. Nor does it help solve the problem to tell me, as gasbottle did, that I should take responsibility for starting a thread to discuss a problem I have no experience with and don't really understand. If gasbottle can't be bothered, why would anyone else take his complaints seriously?
That's because I have the feeling as soon as somebody complains about somethiutng your standard answer is always the same:
QuoteWe don't have either of these problems in my area.
I live in a fine community, but I wouldn't exaggerate it to the point you do. Or maybe you don't and everything is just perfect in your area. Lucky you.
Gabottle just posted what irks him, which is on topic here. If you want to discuss side aspects, it's up to you to open a new topic, you've been invited to quote him.
To stay on topic, discussions like this irk me.
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3 hours ago, cerberus1 said:
Guess I don't understand why you'd post that then. Didn't you draw that attention yourself by posting it?
Don't be surprised if your Reviewers already saw this, as saying, "It can take months to get a bad cache removed here" even specifies where...
We don't have those issues in our area.
This thread is titled "What irks you most?", so people post just that.
I'm glad that you and dprovan live in Geocaching La-La-Land, where everything is just fine. Others don't, so they post according to the title. They don't have to justify that.
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They could check for "Is it a Mystery cache and is there a challenge checker included?". But that would still leave the problem of finders suddenly not qualifying for a puzzle challenge they logged as found and probably a few other things. All in all, a new icon sounds like a PITA to implement and that's what Groundspeak wanted to avoidd after the moratorium.
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I think GPX upload is only supported by the 201, 301 and 305 models. But you can enter (I think up to 100) waypoints manually.
http://www.outdoorsportsgps.com/why-use-a-forerunner-for-geocaching/
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7 minutes ago, niraD said:
From your description, it sounds like the remote owners have a working maintenance plan.
Is simply asking in the listing/logs to do maintainance (whoever might do it) a working plan? I thought you have to name a specific person when placing a holiday cache.
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Maybe this would fit better in the "What irks you most" thread, but there is log style that really annoys me and it goes like this:
"Great caching day with Harry, Berry and Jerry. We found a lot of caches in the area and really enjoyed some other cache that is completely unrelated to this one. Here's the story of what we experienced during our hunt for that other cache. Thanks to all owners for hiding and maintaining".
In that case, I agree with OP. Just log "TFTC" or "+1".
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Ach ja stimmt, darum ging es ja eigentlich. Na gut, wir sind auf Seite drei, da liegt der Themenschwerpunkt meist schon woanders.
DNF gehört für mich zu meinem Erlebnis, darum logge ich das auch. Ganz am Anfang habe ich das nicht gemacht, weil ich dachte ich bin Anfänger, war wahrscheinlich zu blö die Dose zu finden und jemand der das Log liest denkt viellleicht, die Dose ist weg. Jetzt bin ich lange genug dabei um dazu zu stehen, dass ich vielleicht zu blöd für einen Fund war.
NM ist irgendwie ein No-Brainer: Ich habe die Dose gefunden und sie muss gewartet werden. Entweder ist sie kaputt, abgesoffen, der Deckel fehlt oder was weiß ich. Ein volles Logbuch vermerke ich eher in meinem Fund-Log, andere loggen auch da NM.
NA habe ich bis jetzt noch nie gepostet. Ein Fall wo ich mir das vorstellen könnte, wäre zB. wenn ich von einem Grundstücksbesitzer oder aggresivem Nichtcacher angesprochen würde, der sich darüber aufregt. Ich hatte bisher nicht das Bedürfnis, den Schiedsrichter zu rufen. Das Alter des caches, ob der Owner noch aktiv ist oder nicht, der Cache Health Score etc. spielen bei allen Logtypen keine Rolle für mich.
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25 minutes ago, Der Zappo said:
Ich bin ja auch Rumstreuner und Zeux-Angucker - und nicht Wanderschuhbenutzer.
Jetzt habe ich fast mein Getränk rausgeprustet. Ich denke wir verstehen uns.
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13 hours ago, briansnat said:
I guess the OP wouldn't appreciate the logs from Oregone from years back. He would usually run out of characters they were so long and finsish then in a note. 90 percent of the log had nothing to do with the cache. Some people didn't like them but lots of people found them to be hilarious. Anybody remember "Soapy Boy Rinsy Boy?"
Example https://www.geocaching.com/seek/log.aspx?LUID=51440274-28f2-428a-9043-06e194f3a311
That's just great. I didn't find the cache and I'm not the owner, but this is simply awesome and a joy to read.
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Ich finde die Momente auch am schönsten, wo man sich denkt "Das stand aber in keinem Reiseführer" oder "Jetzt wohne ich schon seit Jahrzehnten in dieser Gegend, aber den Ort kannte ich noch nicht." Ich wollte nur darauf hinweisen, dass es anfänglich wirklich rein darum ging, _irgendeinen_ Platz mithilfe des GPSr zu finden.
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On 24.11.2017 at 11:39 AM, Der Zappo said:
Um was "es ging"? Keine Ahnung. Vielleicht ging es wirklich jemanden nur drum, mit dem GPS was zu suchen. Ist aber unwahrscheinlich.
Soweit ich weiß hat jemend mitbekommen, dass "Selective Availability" abgeschaltet wurde, was die Genauigkeit des GPS Systems deutlich erhöht hat und dachte sich "Ich stecke eine Dose Bohnen und ein paar Bücher in einen Kübel, vergrabe den und schaue mal, ob den jemand findet."
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15 minutes ago, Team Hugs said:
If they're honestly T4+ caches, then I'm not sure that they qualify as "intrusions", as any other cache placed there would likely also be a T4+. They're only taking up space on the map for other T4+ caches.
I don't get that. You can place a cache 3m up a tree or at the base. One is T4 or T4.5, the other one is T1.5, the coordinates are the same.
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11 hours ago, Gill & Tony said:
Why should Alamogul not be allowed to publish a "Find 175,000 caches" challenge? Nobody else is likely to ever achieve it, but why does that matter?
Considering the ISS cache and others owned by LordBritish, that's a fair question.
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Since it's always the same GC Code and it's not possible to log a find more than once anymore, you could only write a note or DNF for recurring visits.