Sandy
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Too bad the test didn't take place during the nicer weather months. Lots of canoeing/kayaking get-togethers could have been planned as "cache hunting events".
Just curious: what's the yardstick going to be to measure the "success" or "failure" of this test run?
The test run is to determine how best to implement cache hunts and officially bring them into the game. We will be considering how to update guidelines, and best practices when reviewing these cache types.
We are following this thread with interest.
Cheers!
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This thread has derailed.
Closing.
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We apologize for lack of response, and I understand that you had posted in the Feedback site too.
A colleague on the engineering team is investigating this matter for you.
In the meantime, please do send an email to contact@Groundspeak.com, so that we can correspond with you on the specifics of your issue. Write Attention: Sandy in the subject line, and I will get this to my colleague.
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Hello everyone,
We have wanted to give you the ability to post and share lesson plans in the forum and our IT team has now made this possible.
For security purposes, we are allowing .pdf, .rtf (rich text format), and.txt (plain text) files uploads, only.
If you have questions about posting content as attachments, please write to contact@Groundspeak.com for further support.
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Hello everyone,
We have wanted to give you the ability to post and share lesson plans in the forum and our IT team has now made this possible.
For security purposes, we are allowing .pdf, .rtf (rich text format), and.txt (plain text) files uploads, only.
If you have questions about posting content as attachments, please write to contact@Groundspeak.com for further support.
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Hello everyone,
We have wanted to give you the ability to post and share lesson plans in the forum and our IT team has now made this possible.
For security purposes, we are allowing .pdf, .rtf (rich text format), and.txt (plain text) files uploads, only.
If you have questions about posting content as attachments, please write to contact@Groundspeak.com for further support.
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Groundspeak does not tolerate cachers being disrespectful of other cachers. This cacher was well-informed of the consequences of his actions. That he has deliberately posted yet another video of a cache by the cache owner who lodged the complaint shows his blatant disregard not only for our Terms of Use, but for other cachers.
Further, the Terms of Use were written by legal council. This behavior is not permitted if one wants to use Geocaching.com.
Again, Sven. was only asked to remove videos featuring caches by one cache owner, not the whole collection.
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Groundspeak has rarely responded to threads of this nature. However, we will take this opportunity to explain recent events that led to this site suspension.
This user has drawn many people to geocaching through his YouTube channel. This is one of the reasons that Groundspeak featured Sven. in one of our Blog (Latitude 47) posts (unfortunately removed due to recent events).
However, our Terms of Use state that a user may not, "Publish, in any form of media, the solutions, hints, spoilers, or any hidden coordinates for any geocache without consent from the cache owner." (Section 4m).
With cache owner permission, videos can be created and posted on other forms of media. Groundspeak has never requested that this user remove all the videos he has posted on YouTube. Rather, two months ago we were contacted by the cache owner of a featured cache, who asked that we intervene in having the video of his cache removed from YouTube.
This cache owner had asked Sven. directly, and Sven. had refused. When we intervened and pointed out our Terms of Use, he argued vehemently that the videos are not spoilers - even though that is the name of his YouTube channel. We then explained that not complying with the Terms of Use would result in site suspension, and Sven. complied, removing the video from YouTube.
At that time, we thanked him for his cooperation, and explained that other cache owners may come forward, meaning we would need to follow up on any subsequent complaints.
Another cache owner came forward about three videos that featured his caches. He wanted them removed. When we contacted Sven. he failed to respond for some time. When pressed about removing the videos, he refused, knowing that the consequence was site suspension from Geocaching.com.
Importantly, Sven. did not seek permission from the cache owners who requested that Groundspeak intervene. As a follow up on this matter, he has subsequently posted another video on his Youtube channel featuring a cache by the same cache owner who complained to us about the three videos - again without obtaining permission.
Sven. has had ample opportunities to comply with our Terms of Use. He has also had the opportunity to partner more closely with Groundspeak, but has chosen instead to dig in his heels. Groundspeak cannot partner with someone who openly and actively ignores our Terms of Site use. We consider this unfortunate, as we see how a partnership could benefit the game - under better circumstances. However, the decision has been Sven.'s, not ours.
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This section of the Geocaching.com public forums is for educators, camp counselors, club leaders, professors, students and seminar facilitators to post questions and ideas for others in their community. It is also a place for sharing resources.
There are sub-sections for the following:
- Teaching K-7
- Teaching 8-12
- Camps and Outdoor Adventures
- Youth Organizations and Clubs
- Adult Team Building/Seminars
This section, 'General', is a catch-all for any threads that cannot be categorized in any of the above sections.
If you have questions about this forum, or about what is appropriate to post, please email contact@Groundspeak.com.
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Hi everyone,
We are expanding (to a new location)! Over coming hours/days we will be populating a new, expanded section of the forums with the most current and popular threads from this section. Older, less-frequented threads will move to the new section too, so nothing will be lost.
What you will see in coming hours and days:
Threads will 'disappear' from this section while we populate the new section. Then the whole new section will go live.
Thanks for your patience while we make this upgrade.
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We'll have a new version of the app within a couple of weeks, which will include the fixes for the trial-version issue.
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We are aware of some issues with the trial version. We are determining how best to move forward, and apologize with the ongoing problem.
so its a known problem, or am i the only one?
Some users are experiencing issues with the trial version of the app.
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We are aware of some issues with the trial version. We are determining how best to move forward, and apologize with the ongoing problem.
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I also get the no line breaks issue. Kind of anoying.
I have been informed by the engineering team that this will be addressed in the next release of the app.
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Posting about this external site is not appropriate Geocaching.com forum content, but we wish you all the best with that endeavor.
Closing thread.
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The program on my iTouch version 3.1.3 stopped working tonight. It was fine for the last 2 days of use. I foolishly tried deleting and reloading but now can't because it wants a newer version of iTouch. What now?
Please send an email to contact@Groundspeak.com. We will address this matter for you.
We apologize that this decision was not communicated to the userbase affected prior to the change. It was a gross oversight and we are addressing individual user's needs at the above email address.
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With regard to the GAGB urban cache guideline, that you raised earlier, it is my belief that no law enforcement agency contacted GAGB or Groundspeak through an official channel. It was in fact GAGB that made contact and GAGB that suggested a set of draconian "guidelines" that were thankfully then back peddled on to an extent. However we are now subject to extra rules that were not needed. All that needed to be done was communicate with the various agencies to educate them about geocaching. Groundspeak provide an excellent presentation for this and I am surprised this is not used.
Groundspeak would have liked to be part of this discussion with law enforcement; the GAGB thought that the matter at hand needed immediate attention. We are working on partnering more closely on these types of matters in the future. That said, neither Groundspeak nor the GAGB represent all the cachers in the UK. There are other sites and other organizations at play. What matters most is stewardship of the game of geocaching overall - by all parties. Our guidelines and the GAGB's guidelines are not absolutes, but offer a platform of guidance for our highly experienced and capable volunteers to make informed decisions - cache by cache - for their designated regions.
Cache owners should be reminded that if you do not agree with a decision about your cache, you can submit to the Appeals team here at Groundspeak for further consideration.
I know this answer is not definitive, but there are so many factors at play that I would be remiss in replying with something more concrete.
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Thanks Sandy.
It was good of you to be as consise as you have. Just one last point, we do not yet live in a police state in the uk. Law enforcement is just that! If you have been informed the police have made a law you have been mislead.
We know that no laws have been updated, but agencies can enforce existing laws. And if they deem geocaching as being in violation of those, then the game will not be permitted in urban areas in the UK. This was a genuine concern at the time of the recent bomb scare.
Thanks for the additional information.
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GAG-Who ?
It's like having a trade union in a workplace.. with 10 members, out of 10,000 workers....
Groundspeak's geocache guidelines apply to caches listed on Geocaching.com across the world. One of those guidelines is, "All local laws apply".
The GAGB guidelines are not local laws. I thank you for taking time to answer. I pay Groundspeak a subscription not the GAGB why should they dictate the rules? I also think we are confused over the word guideline verses requirements, Groundspeak list requirements not guidelines. But taking it that the word guideline in Groundspeaks definition means requirement then the answer is simply all of the existing and any new ones that the GAGB publish. With that in mind what other minority organisations can make rules?
But on the other hand if you are suggesting that all of the requirements and guidelines are only optional by adoption of the reviewers again I have to ask the question how do we know the ones that are relevant?
Thanks
We understand that GAGB guidelines are not local laws. What I said was, "The GAGB has addressed a need to cooperate effectively with local law enforcement in the UK." We appreciate their actions that addressed a need, and simultaneously empower our volunteers to make informed judgments case by case.
Further, for a cache listing there are both 'requirements' and 'guidelines'. Requirements include that a traditional cache has a container and a logbook and 'all local laws apply'. These are the 'non-negotiables'. The 'guidelines' aspect of cache placement is anywhere we ask a volunteer reviewer to use their experience and judgment to make a call based on the specifics of an individual cache.
Essentially, we do not want to make any blanket statements about requiring a specific type of labeling, as each cache must be assessed on its own merits. However, if the local law enforcement agency will not permit caching without specified labels, then we need to comply with the local laws. We trust that the local volunteers know their regions best and will continue to act as stewards of the game within communities external to Geocaching.com.
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Groundspeak’s geocache guidelines apply to caches listed on Geocaching.com across the world. One of those guidelines is, “All local laws apply”. The GAGB has addressed a need to cooperate effectively with local law enforcement in the UK. That said, the additional guidelines that they have created are guidelines, rather than hard and fast rules, just as Groundspeak’s guidelines are. Each cache listing is still reviewed by a volunteer reviewer on its own merits. Volunteer reviewers may decide to address this specific aspect of a cache’s placement, but this is at their discretion. They apply their local knowledge and guidelines to each cache individually.
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Thanks to all for the feedback. We are tracking this thread and testing these issues. We appreciate your input.
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The update is a mango? The compass is still not working.
Update is not in mango.
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Keep us posted via this thread about the update.
Thanks for your incredible patience and understanding over the past months.
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We re-submitted to Microsoft, addressing the aspect of the app that they rejected. Stand by...
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It's been a month since I created a cache, but no approval yet...
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We agree that this part of the cache submission process is not intuitive and are determining the best way to address this.
We appreciate this feedback, and it is particularly great to see community members helping out a fellow cacher in this thread.