Matt_B_Good

I have a couple in dangerous areas. They are not so dangerous if you are an adult, teenager to older child but i always put not kid friendly.

Thank you, I added them to my list. However I don't know what tribe owns the land they are on? Do you? I am much more familiar with the lands in my part of the country. Reservations in Montana The first cache I mentioned is on the Flathead Reservation. The second is on the Crow Reservation. We've found caches in Cut Bank, MT which is on the Blackfeet reservation and I know there are more on the Fort Peck Reservation. Jen So all of Cut Bank is on the Blackfoot Reservation? If so it would be easy for me to search there for caches. I would just have to put the city name into the geocache search engine. Thanks for the additional info. I will be using it. I checked further and Cut Bank is just outside the boundary. But there are 3 caches within the boundary, one near Cut Bank and 2 at East Glacier- try GC1FJ2E. On the Rocky Boy Reservation I see around 5 caches- try GC1T4DB. On the Fort Peck Reservation there is one that I spot, a real nice write up about the tribe is part of the description- GCQD5Z. Thank you again I will add them to my list shortly

For anyone interested I was able to find a few in my area that are on Indian Reservations. GC1J7XO has a reference point within the Mohican tribe's land here in Wisconsin. GC13Q34, GC1EQ85, and GC1EHJP are all located within the Oneida nation. I got this by lining up the Tiger map suggested in this thread with the Google maps provided though Geocaching.com. It is hard to line up and I beleive there are at least a good half dozen more on the Oneida Reservation.

Every tribe is a little different. All want to preserve what they have but some are certainly more strict about land use than others. I can certainly understand them being cautious. As you can see though there are a few caches on native land.

Thank you, I added them to my list. However I don't know what tribe owns the land they are on? Do you? I am much more familiar with the lands in my part of the country. Reservations in Montana The first cache I mentioned is on the Flathead Reservation. The second is on the Crow Reservation. We've found caches in Cut Bank, MT which is on the Blackfeet reservation and I know there are more on the Fort Peck Reservation. Jen So all of Cut Bank is on the Blackfoot Reservation? If so it would be easy for me to search there for caches. I would just have to put the city name into the geocache search engine. Thanks for the additional info. I will be using it.

Thank you, I added them to my list. However I don't know what tribe owns the land they are on? Do you? I am much more familiar with the lands in my part of the country. Reservations in Montana The first cache I mentioned is on the Flathead Reservation. The second is on the Crow Reservation. We've found caches in Cut Bank, MT which is on the Blackfeet reservation and I know there are more on the Fort Peck Reservation. Jen So all of Cut Bank is on the Blackfoot Reservation? If so it would be easy for me to search there for caches. I would just have to put the city name into the geocache search engine. Thanks for the additional info. I will be using it.

It might not be true that they don't like them there. As little as one person not wanting them there is all you need on a Reservation sometimes. Let me explain. In the nation closest to me Geocaches fall under Reservation land use. Any land use ideas have to be approved by the 9 tribal council members as an anonymous yes. So therefore a physical cache to be placed in the Menominee nation of Wisconsin you need to get an anonymous yes from all 9 tribal council members. It is not an easy task. It may be easier in some of the nations to place a cache but it many times takes tremendous effort for a cache to be placed on a Reservation.

Thank you, I added them to my list. However I don't know what tribe owns the land they are on? Do you? I am much more familiar with the lands in my part of the country.

Matching up the map is harder than I expected. It gives you the option to mark a coords but the dot puts me in the middle of the ocean. There must be a glitch. Anyway, at the present time it seems impossible to match them all up. I will list the caches some of you have told me about as caches for the coin to visit. If anyone comes up with more I would appreciate it. Maybe some day the google maps will show these kind of things but right it is difficult to find a way. Thank you so much everyone for all your effort and keep them coming if you come across more.

The last I'm going to say on the subject. many of these no trackable coins are pretty cool looking but I nor the definition of a geocoin stated on the site consider them geocoins. This is what the geocaching.com site states under geocoins. "What is a Geocoin? A geocoin is a special coin created by individuals or groups of geocachers as a kind of signature item or calling card. Like Travel Bugs, each geocoin is assigned a unique tracking ID which allows them to travel from geocache to geocache or to be passed amongst friends, picking up stories along the way." So there you have it. If there is no tracking number it is NOT a geocoin. It is a coin it is a token it is a work of art but not a geocoin. Call them whatever you will but don't sell them as geocoins when they have no tracking number. If it goes on ebay at least put non-trackable in the title. Otherwise every car wash, laundry and Chucky Cheese token will start being sold as geocoins. Thank you,

If it matches the goal of the coin then I don't see an issue with 3 weeks. I would personally prefer someone to hold onto a coin for three weeks and meet the goal than send it off and go against the goal. On the other hand if taking it to Asia goes against the goal then it is a bad idea. If it has no goal then your good. However these are just my personal opinion ultimately the person to ask is the owner of the coin.

I will give them credit for stating in the auction that it is not trackable but the title of the auction says Geocoin so here I waste a bunch of time looking at auctions for something I don't want thinking it was something I did. people placing those type of auctions waste my time and that ticks me off Sell them as tokens or even Geocache swag fine but if not trackable it is not right to sell them as geocoins. They are NOT geocoins. There are alot of us who believe that personal signature items that get dropped in caches ARE geocoins - trackable or not. I also believe event and state or club coins that aren't trackable ARE geocoins. Just because YOU don't think they are doesn't mean the rest world has to change so we aren't wasting your time. Those are collectable tokens. Geocoins are trackable.

If you drop a dollar coin into a cache do you consider that to be a Geocoin? No, I didn't think so. That's great you have your own coin but how can you consider that a geocoin? I would consider that a personal coin or maybe a signature coin. Call it what you want, just don't sell it on ebay as a geocoin if you can't track it on geocaching.com. Your wasting people's time.

I will give them credit for stating in the auction that it is not trackable but the title of the auction says Geocoin so here I waste a bunch of time looking at auctions for something I don't want thinking it was something I did. people placing those type of auctions waste my time and that ticks me off Sell them as tokens or even Geocache swag fine but if not trackable it is not right to sell them as geocoins. They are NOT geocoins.

I was looking on ebay for geocoins and notice there are many that say not trackable. Not trackable then how in the world would they be considered geocoins? If it is not trackable is it not just a token or coin? I think it is a bit dishonest to advertise a non-trackable token or coin as a geocoin. It may cause some to bid not realizing that all they are getting is a coin that cannot be tracked and has no monetary value. Those type of auctions should be banned.

Oh wow! That is extremely helpful. Thank you so very much. It will be alot of work matching these areas up with caches in those areas but it certainly is off to a good start. the only thing i don't like about that map is it does not name the tribe. I know some but not all of them. The ones within Wisconsin i pretty well know but i will need more research to find the rest. I really do appreciate the help from all of you. The latest post most of all. Thank you

I have an archived cache that was on reservation land. Do you have more specific questions? Jim How did you match it up with the geocaching maps to know it was on the Reservation? Sometimes it can be obvious but often the lands are not contiguous or it is real fuzzy as to exactly where the line is.? I'm trying to compile a list of all active caches on Reservations as I can so the coin visits as many as it can. Kind of a checklist. In the state of Washington Moun10bike published a .kml file of the reservation lands. That makes it simple. For other states I would do a google for Indian reservation gis. This should yield some hits and once you have the shape files there are shapefile to .kml converters. With the .kml you can use Google Earth to manipulate the data. Hope this helps, Jim It might help but I am not sure what .kml file is nor gis? I don't know what shape files are either? Pardon my ignorance on this but I just never heard nor read anything about them. maybe i have used them and didn't realize it, who knows? If I can figure these things out I could get at the caches within Washington state that are on Reservations added to my list. it certainly would be progress.

Thank you so very much. These will be on the list of caches to visit.

I have an archived cache that was on reservation land. Do you have more specific questions? Jim How did you match it up with the geocaching maps to know it was on the Reservation? Sometimes it can be obvious but often the lands are not contiguous or it is real fuzzy as to exactly where the line is.? I'm trying to compile a list of all active caches on Reservations as I can so the coin visits as many as it can. Kind of a checklist.

Thanks, I wasn't 100% sure on the edict for this type of thing. I would prefer a private message to assure I get it. Sometimes posting gets lost in the shuffle and I might not check the thread as often as my messages. I'm looking for caches on Reservations for all of the United States and Canada. it will really help the geocoin's mission.

Hi Everybody, I plan on releasing a Geocoin in honer of The native nations within the United States and Canada. The goal of this Geocoin would be to visit as many Native American lands as possible. The problem is that not all tribes allow physical geocaches on their land or it is a big hassle to get one place there. It is just one of those governmental issues. I wanted to start it out in the Menominee nation of Wisconsin however there is only a virtual cache there. I have decided I will physically take it to the virtual myself and "dip" it. Then take it to a physical cache in either the Stockbridge or Oneida nation of Wisconsin and leave it there to travel to another. The problem is it is difficult to tell sometimes where exactly the lines are. On our geocaching maps everything just blends in together. One cache I did find I thought was in the Oneida nation but the only way to tell for sure is by fire numbers and the like and I was not paying enough attention nor did I have this coin in mind at the time. Now I did message Groundspeak on this. Here was their answer. Hi, I am sorry but we do not currently have an automated way to search for caches. You will need to do a manual search through the site. Thank you, Best Regards, So I need everyones help. If you know of a cache that is in one of the native nations (first nations in Canada) please give me a private message through my account. I will add it to the list of potential caches to visit. Thank you much, Matt_B_Good

It is getting close. More caches added everyday. I'm thinking we will reach one million active caches before 2009 is over. We got what 85,000 to go?

hit the delete button and move on. Explain to the person that you adopted them from another user and did not until now find them. If they don't understand that then forget about them. You might even get an apology. If you don't mind sharing how does the listing look? I am curious to know if you left the hide credit as the person who you adopted it from? I have so far adopted one cache. I kept the name of the person who hid it and added adopted by, my user name then the date I adopted it. Don't get too bent out of shape because of this person. You did nothing wrong.

I didn't have that conclusion when I had only 28 finds either. Keep in mind though I was simply making observations from the caches I have found and hidden. I am stating my perception not what is always the case but what tends to be in my finds and hides. You can't take everything stated on a forum the way you perceive the statement after all it is a mediated form of communication, not everything comes across the way it is intended. Even in direct communication it doesn't always come across as intended so don't expect it to in a forum.

Have you never been to Wisconsin? There are many swamps in Wisconsin. Nothing huge like the everglades and the cold winters keeps the alligators away. Still plenty of frogs in spring though. Forgetting to swap is a little different than intentionally just taking stuff like some seem to. I wonder if it is always people that are registered users of the site that just take stuff? From what I have seen tourist areas seem to be the worst for just taking stuff. Ever find any caches around a campground? I never saw any good trade items in them. How do you know that it's intentional? I guess I can't KNOW for a 100% certainty but it is quite likely the case.