Matt_B_Good
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I don't understand why some caches feel the need to mess up your geocoin's goal? You can put a paper with the thing stating the goal and that helps to some extent but there is always these caches that disregard the goal and do whatever they want with it. If I see a geocoin or TB in a cache and cannot help it fill it's realistic goal I leave it be. I don't feel a need to grab every single one. No wonder there are so many out there with no goal at all. It gets so frustrating to see your geocoin fulfilling it's goal five times and then the sixth person kills that goal but I guess that is part of the challenge huh?
would you rather have your coin/TB sit in a cache for months until and if someone happens to visited that can help it on its goal or have the trackable on the move to new locations and hopefully meet the cacher that can truly help it on its goal?
a goal/mission is not something that happen over night, you have to be prepared that it will take time
personally i rather see it moving along than rotting in one place for weeks or even months
Yes, I would rather it sit for a year than have the goal broken. I do not put impossible missions on them.
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I don't understand why some caches feel the need to mess up your geocoin's goal? You can put a paper with the thing stating the goal and that helps to some extent but there is always these caches that disregard the goal and do whatever they want with it. If I see a geocoin or TB in a cache and cannot help it fill it's realistic goal I leave it be. I don't feel a need to grab every single one. No wonder there are so many out there with no goal at all. It gets so frustrating to see your geocoin fulfilling it's goal five times and then the sixth person kills that goal but I guess that is part of the challenge huh?
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Only saw one that you did, placed on 3/14, published on 3/21.
Only you logged (online).
It is possible that somebody held off on the publishing, allowing a friend to grab the FTF. It happens on occasion.
I'm planning one of those. just so the friend can find it in its original condition.
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I wouldn't place one at a grade school even with written permission and reviewer approval. There are just too many things that could go wrong. people get suspicious of any adult hanging around an elementary school. Unless maybe you can place it in the parking lot some distance from the actual school itself. All in all it is up to you.
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I don't mind a micro here and there but how many of them there are it just kind of gets sickening. I like to see all the odd things people left and have a chance at grabbing a trackable. I do hate when the trackable goes missing but that is part of the territory. Yes it sucks but it is out of my hands. Even many micros do have a chance of containing a trackable. Some trackables do fit inside a film canister and even a matchstick container. Since learning this Micros have become more enjoyable but they do get sickening. An ammo box is nice but you don't need to use something that expensive. there are plenty of other types of containers that do the trick. most of my hides are small caches. Usually I start it out with a log and one or two very cheap trade items and sometimes a trackable. Cachers should NEVER put anything in a Geocache that really means something to them. I don't like losing a trackable nor do I like my swag traded down or simply taken but I certainly wouldn't risk losing something that was special to me. that would be a very bad idea.
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Usually it is pretty easy to determine who was the FTF. they may be the only finder of the day. A cache connected with an event is pretty hard though. i had a FTF on at least on such cache hoever by the time I logged it on the site i was like 100 post down.
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a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community
Ah...Found it...I guess I'm the middle one??
If I had posted that in the other FTF thred, then might I be the first one??
So by that definition you cannot be a troll in the initial post that started a thread. Someone posting to insult you can be though so ironically that means the person who accused you of being a troll. Ironic huh?
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Have you ever considered Multi-Tasking, while out caching, pick up cans to re-cycle, or what ever...........How many cans does it take to get $3.00?
If I remember right it s about 35 cans to get a pound so depending on the price per pound. Unless you live in one of those states where you get 5¢-10¢ a pound then you can get that much quicker. But in a year of Geocaching if you picked up all the aluminum you just might have enough to pay for a premium membership depending where you live.
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I would at least put a new log in there or if it has pages get rid of the pages that are written on.
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There is not a rational explanation for alot of things. Who know why this person has something against member only caches. I don't particularly care for them because you have to pay a fee to go find them and that is the ONLY qualification but if I had a membership i would go for them. The majority of caches are not member only so why are they crying about it? I have no rational explanation. Perhaps they are just nuts?
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thank you to everyone except knowschad for your help. I suppose there has to be at least one flaming troll in every thread?
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Why am I getting the impression that you have no interest in our opinions (or our facts), Matt B. Good? What do you want us to tell you... that yes, cops lie through their teeth? I really don't understand what you are looking for that we haven't already offered.
You are being quite rude and disrespectful to me. Please don't say anymore on this thread.
Oh, I can't wait for his reply to this comment...
For what it is worth I feel your comments were just fine.
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No, I'm not. Please read my previous remarks that you failed to comment on. I was quite polite and to the point, to the point of doing some research for you. Others have also made some very thoughtful comments, and all you seem to want to do is to complain.Why am I getting the impression that you have no interest in our opinions (or our facts), Matt B. Good? What do you want us to tell you... that yes, cops lie through their teeth? I really don't understand what you are looking for that we haven't already offered.
You are being quite rude and disrespectful to me. Please don't say anymore on this thread.
No, your being an a**. Everyone else other that the one were being helpful. Now really, are you so stupid that you actually post after I ask you not to? You continue to be even more rude. Go away.
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I have lots of places I would like to put one but I don't know WHO to ask.
Start with your town clerk or tax office.
Thanks now all i have to do is find where they are.
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Why am I getting the impression that you have no interest in our opinions (or our facts), Matt B. Good? What do you want us to tell you... that yes, cops lie through their teeth? I really don't understand what you are looking for that we haven't already offered.
You are being quite rude and disrespectful to me. Please don't say anymore on this thread.
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I had no idea that this was a widespread problem. I would never think of placing a cache on private property without getting the explicit permission of the property owner.
Interesting that this came up now. My cache (only) was found by a couple yesterday and in their log stated that they wanted to say something to the property owner (store owner) about the cache but didn't because I hadn't spelled out in the cache description that I had obtained permission.
I never thought to spell it out, because I would never consider placing without permission. It's always been my understanding that was one of geocaching's cardinal rules. I reckon I'm pretty naive. Guess that's the way I was raised.
Oh well, I suspect that as more people get involved in geocaching we're going to see more of this and probably some things we haven't even thought of yet.
That kind of was my notion as well. I assumed that caches placed on private land without permission were the exception. this particular cache has been around for some time.
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Perhaps off-topic, perhaps not...
Just to clarify a few things for the OP.
RXR trespassing laws have existed about as long as railroads have. Mostly for safety and liability.
Not well known is the fact that there are railroad police. They are fully authorized to enforce any law, not just those related to railroads, though it is the railroad that pays them, so they do have a tendency to enforce only those relative laws (not unlike conservation officers who also have full police powers).
Regular LEOs sometimes become involved with RXR incidents, but are not as fully aware of those specific types of laws (usually). So, do keep in mind that what "you say, they say" may not be fully true, I would tread lightly on saying that they "lied".
To make matters even better, you admit that you don't know. I find it a little hard to swallow that you feel they (or he, as you put it) lied to you.
You seem to be making assumptions based upon assumptions.Foremost, you have to consider that a cache very well may have been placed improperly (intentionally or not). If so, you may well be on "the wrong side" of the trespassing fence.
Caches improperly placed do happen. It is something to consider. If you don't consider that as a real possibility, you just may be setting yourself up for a fall. Ratty car or a new Mercedes, it doesn't matter! Many terrorists drive Mercedes, Fords and Toyotas, or even fly airplanes!
Currently we, as "stealthy" operators in a somewhat paranoid society must keep these things in mind.
What we do and where we go opens the door to these types of incidents. To go forth willie-nillie without a care in the world certainly will subject you to this type of contact. Food for thought, that's all.
Relax, your blood pressure will get too high if you don't. I am not saying the officer lied to me. I am saying that officers lie quite often and I assume they are likely lying rather than assume they are telling the truth. maybe i just have bad experiences with police that abuse their power and don't do their job. they always just seem to want to bother me for nothing.
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I strongly disagree police officers lie all the time and if not lying they probably assume something.Having the police tell you that it is private land is usually a good indication that the owner did not get adequate permission.
There is a guideline that caches must be a minimum distance from active railroad tracks and that is pretty well enforced. It's late and I just got in from an apartment fire call and I can't recall the distance at the moment, but it's in the Guidelines, look it up, and if this cache is too close to an active track please report it (Log a Should Be Archived on the cache page).
That is not an issue whatsoever with this cache. Establishing who owns the land and if permission was granted is the only issue. That does not mean the railroad doesn't own it. the land I live on was once owned by the railroad because at the time they got it dirt cheap and i am a good 3 miles from any tracks.
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The reality is that there are MANY caches that are on private property without permission.
Another reality is that many LEOs will tell you things that are not true, or they just don't know, in order to scare you into complying with whatever they want you to do.
I know some of them lie all the time. This is not to say all of them. It is kind of sad. i like looking for caches at night until someone actually charges me with a crime and even then I will fight it just out of principal.
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Many times railroads consider their property to be totally private. Where I live, there is one small company that hires private security guards to patrol their tracks. The reason for that is that it is used as a bikeway/jogging path since it very rarely has train on it. They make it very clear to not tresspass.
The only sign I saw was no Dumping. maybe the officer was checking to see if I used the place as a dump as well as for drugs. My car is kind of junky. you tend to get profiled in a junky car.
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Are caches listed that are on private and that fact is not mentioned? I went for a cache today thinking it was on public land. As I was leaving a police officer pulled me over. Well, I looked for the cache in the dark. It was listed as a 24/7 cache. It was only like 8:40 or so. The one officer said it was not public land that it was owned by the railroad. they went as far as sending a dog into the woods. I think it was just needless harassment by paranoid police. they didn't charge me with any crime because they couldn't. I didn't believe the officer about it being owned by the railroad either, it wouldn't be the first time a police officer lied. My concern here is if there are listed caches on private land that are not listed as such? I would hate to get a trespassing charge (as unlikely as that is) thinking I was on public land. i think it is DNR management land.
The reality is that there are MANY caches that are on private property without permission.
Groundspeak is just a listing service and doesn't check when caches are published. The legality of the hide rests with the cache hider.
If the cache was on RR property then there has to be a record of the property somewhere. If the officer just "said" it was RR property, I would forget it and move on. You already found the cache, right?
Interesting. When I tried to publish my first cache it never went through because the land manager did not give permission. I did not find the cache it was a micro, it was dark i was alone with no flashlight. I figured I could find it anyway. I was wrong. The officer tried to tell me animal control was part of the police department as well. I never heard of that. they are a government agency sure but part of the police?
I really wish it was easier to find out who owns certain places. There were alot of police around the area. I didn't think of leaving because I was doing nothing illegal that i knew of. Worst case I was trespassing but the chance of getting charged for that is so very small. I only know one person who was ever charged with trespassing and that was bogus anyway. She was invited to the person's house and then got charged with trespassing when she came over. There are over 100 finds on that cache. I was just a victim of a paranoid person. That kind of stinks to find out many caches are placed on private land without permission. I have lots of places I would like to put one but I don't know WHO to ask. -
Are caches listed that are on private and that fact is not mentioned? I went for a cache today thinking it was on public land. As I was leaving a police officer pulled me over. Well, I looked for the cache in the dark. It was listed as a 24/7 cache. It was only like 8:40 or so. The one officer said it was not public land that it was owned by the railroad. they went as far as sending a dog into the woods. I think it was just needless harassment by paranoid police. they didn't charge me with any crime because they couldn't. I didn't believe the officer about it being owned by the railroad either, it wouldn't be the first time a police officer lied. My concern here is if there are listed caches on private land that are not listed as such? I would hate to get a trespassing charge (as unlikely as that is) thinking I was on public land. i think it is DNR management land.
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Yes, yesterday we were about 4000 away in the morning when I logged in, must have been a busy busy day publishing caches. Do we know the official 1,000,000th?
Even if we could find out there is no real way to know which one set it over the top. We might be able to figure out What cache was the 1,000,000 to be published but with all the caches that are deactivated and archived no one is really the one millionth cache.
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Forgive me if this is posted already. I didn't see anything, a similar thread but not exactly the same. Today I see we hit 1,000,000 active caches. it was quite a jump from the last report I saw. With an early spring this year it looks like some activity is going on. new caches being placed, caches deactivated for the winter are being activated. things are really starting to pick up. the jump is large enough that it is unlikely that the number will drop under. 1,000,000. I might be tooting my own horn a little bit with this statement but. Congrats to all us cache owners for helping out.
Now if we can just get people to stop placing so many bison tubes and nanos with no room to leave a trackable that would be great. I don't mind them as a stage in a multi but as the final it gets kind of boring. I like seeing what stuff is left behind and it is nice to find the occasional recently placed or unlisted geocoin or travel bug in there some of which fit into something as small as a match holder or film canister.
Why do they break your goal?
in Trackables
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I understand things happen but some of these people just blatantly disregard the goal. I put a paper with each one stating the goal as well as list it on the site. They apparently don't care enough to read that paper either sometimes or seem to assign their own goal to it. One common thing I noticed is dipping for miles when there is absolutely nothing about that in the goal and is not at all the intent of things. Why would they assume you want it moved many miles? Some I do, some I would prefer moving less than 20 miles each jump. Most cachers that participate in trackables are pretty good about it but some just don't care. Yes at least it is not lost or stolen but still it is disappointing. Every once in awhile things will go exactly as planned.