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GREAT! The Peace Treaty Signing will be held at Vodoo Donut on NW 22nd Ave in Portland, a week from Friday. All are welcome to attend. Yes, they have bacon donuts.

I come here because by the time I get off work, Springer reruns are already over. I think that the fact that I've seen many a newbie cautioned not to judge the geocaching community by the forums, should be a red flag. I am quite certain people would not phrase things they way they do here, or use the tone that they use if they were forced to say their piece right a persons face. I think it would tone down the rhetoric quite a bit if folks remembered that there are actual living, breathing, fellow cachers at the other end of the keyboard. Folks with kids and grandkids and pets and feelings and stuff.

Nice try anyway. I applaud your effort. Me too! I'm gonna go around putting smelly socks in all the caches in my area so people will find them and post to this thread to get it back on track. The smelly sock comment was in no way a commentary on ReadyOrNot's avatar.

Nice try anyway. I applaud your effort. Me too! I'm gonna go around putting smelly socks in all the caches in my area so people will find them and post to this thread to get it back on track.

Pro-poultry propaganda? I wouldn't object to such a tract, but I believe putting live chicks in would be against the guidelines. Unless it's Hamster Caching Season. Then again, it would be a chick and not a hamster.... oh dear, I'm confused again.

From what I was able to discern from the Naughty Swag discussion, religious stuff is not prohibited swag because it isn't: Illegal Physically dangerous Obscene as defined by local laws It may be annoying to some, however. I personally find McToys, little erasers & pine cones equally as annoying, like really, really, really. ANGST ANGST ANGST! I also find the lack of keys to a late model BMW in a cache really, really, really irritating! Where's that "General Angst" thread anyway? I know I saw one once.

Wow, we aren't even done beating the crap out of each other over this issue over on the Naughty Swag thread, and someone starts ANOTHER topic about religious tracts as swag. Good grief, there is a lot of angst over this! Maybe the mods can move all the religious angst from the Naughty Swag thread over here, and we can leave the Bacon Mints and underwear in peace.

I was in the exploration phase of looking to become a Episcopal priest, but after much research and reflection I decided to go back to school to become a geologist instead. A friend who knew of my explorations responded with a, " that seems... unrelated" Bummer he saw it that way, I think they're highly related, but I'm kinda odd like that. So, I'm with ya, Snoogans. It isn't mutually exclusive.

It is? I feel like I'm pretty objective and I honestly don't know how to answer the question you posed to Keystone based on the guidelines as written. I can see why the aforementioned "questionable" swag is questionable, mostly it's illegal, potentially dangerous, or obscene (as in the legal definition of obscene). But the religious tracts.... I dunno. It's only questionable for me personally because it isn't my value to spread my religion that way, but it isn't illegal or obscene or physical harmful. If Groundspeak feels that solicitations (religious or commercial or otherwise) are questionable, then the two sections should be combined for clarity. Sans the mudslinging, it's kind of an interesting discussion to have actually.

Yeah, that's kind of the crux of all the drama, isn't it?

I haven't jumped into the "religious tract fray" because I was really just hoping for more pictures of swag underwear.... but re-reading the guidelines over and over something struck me. This section: does indeed state that if "questionable items" are placed in a cache after it's been in the field awhile, it can be pulled by the reviewer. However, the part about solicitations are in a different section all together: The language and the placement of the "solicitations" language could certainly be interpreted as implying that solicitations placed in caches do not fall under "questionable swag" (as solicitation material was not mentioned in the questionable section but given it's own section), and furthermore the guideline does seem to state that it is the cache itself that is subject to the solicitation litmus test, not the contents: I don't really have a dog in the fight either way, but I can see where there is room for splitting hairs. Maybe these sections need to be retooled to be more clear? Now.... back to underwear swag!

While caching yesterday I found a little tin of Bacon Mints. Besides being against guidelines to put food in a cache, they just smelled revolting. Bleh! Some people!

Original Stash Tribute Plaque Cache Don't leave any TBs there. It's well known by muggles and the TBs will be gone in a flash. Have fun! Thats the 2003 replacement cache at the original site, but not the original cache. Yes I suppose that it true. It didn't occur to me that he was thinking that THE ORIGINAL 5 gallon bucket with a GC# of 001 would still exist. I'm afraid that the 2003 replacement is as close as we can get now.

While everyone is totally entitled to define "inappropriate" however they want, the definition that was rattling around my little over-ripe melon was: Things that are illegal (e.g. joint) physically dangerous (e.g. rusty fishing lure) physically icky (e.g. dog poop) liable to gunk up a cache (e.g. leaky ink pad) FWIW, I don't think religious tracts OR condoms are inappropriate. I wouldn't even pull out a bottle of lube if it was still sealed. To each their own, ya know? Like AlabamaRambler, I've pulled out stuff that was against guidelines and stuff that was ruining the swag/log, but that's it. It's not my job to sensor swag. But this is coming from a person who it was assumed let her 4 yr old smoke pot.

Original Stash Tribute Plaque Cache Don't leave any TBs there. It's well known by muggles and the TBs will be gone in a flash. Have fun!

I think it is more disturbing that your 4yo kid knows what weed is. I'm over 30 and I wouldn't be able to tell weed from catnip or the spices in my cabinet. Oh no, he has no idea what Weed is. He actually though it was a weed. Like all the foliage we bushwacked through to get to the cache. Like, "why did someone put a dead flower in the cache". I just thought it was hilarious that he declared it "a weed" considering the slang... But don't be so judgmental anyway For all you know I have cancer and a medical Mary Jane card. People in glass houses shouldn't get stoned. Wait... how does that go again?

That post make me think about the most inappropriate thing I've ever found in a cache: a bud, a lighter, and rolling paper. My 4 year old saw the bud and exclaimed, "what is a weed doing in the cache!?!?" (weed! LOL!) and threw it over his shoulder. A friend who was with us went diving for the bud as it flew through the air saying, "just because it shouldn't be in a cache, doesn't mean it should go to waste!" What's the most inappropriate thing YOU'VE ever found, and what did you do?

Ok, this has been bugging me for while now* and I guess this thread is as good as any to type it out loud: I'm kinda bummed that Oregon is where geocaching was invented, but now the geocaching HQ is in Seattle. Seattle always gets all the fun. Portland is hip! Portland is with-it! *"Bugging" might be too strong a word. It's not like I'm loosing sleep or anything

Wow, what are the chances that Steve 'n' Nancy's floating cache would have been found by another cacher? The Caching Gods must have been feeling charitable.

This is SO my philosophy! Especially here in the PacNW, if it's a nice day I don't care WHAT I am supposed to be doing, I grab my little boys are we are outta here. They won't remember the clean floors or the done laundry or any of that junk, but they'll totally remember spending time together out in the sunshine. We've been trying to renovate our house for two years now (we have 90 boxes of plank flooring in our garage) but we never have the fortitude to give up caching/camping weather to fix drywall or install floors. Bleh. My parents, whose philosophy has always been "first you pay, THEN you play" just tsk-tsk as we leave our unfinished house behind in search of another adventure.

We found one up the House Rock Falls trail here in Oregon, and while we were signing the log and arguing over swag another group came up to us explaining that they had found it by accident the night before but no one had a pencil so they back to sign the log. The trail was a rough half mile with a pretty decent altitude change, so was amazed that they made the trek back just to sign a log. They had brought some pretty shells and bird feathers to place in the cache and wanted to know more about geocaching. It was pretty cool

That's a great link, thanks Anno. I personally know of more little cemeteries in my area than are listed on that site, and alas, they did not have info on our friends "Rum" & "Gum", but that's a great resource to keep in mind.

Aww! Thanks for replying! I kinda gave up on finding any geocachers willing to lend a hand because I took so much flak in the english-speaking forum. We were able to get an assist for my friend and she ended up having a lovely R&R in Italy. Thanks again!

BlueMoth - here's what I was able to find: The "Rum" and "Gum" Charley Cemetery is near Middleton and was established in 1884. It has/had under 25 plots (probably closer to 2-4) and had been abandoned to nature. That's gonna be a helluva hunt. My bookmark list is so public! Cemetery Bookmark List

It my (admittedly limited) experience that caches tend to be right near or right on the edge of a cemetery, not actually IN it.