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  1. Tomorrow I'm planning to grab one or two of GWHO's member's only caches in the Palisades.


    WOOWOO! Finally! :blink:


    I can't think of any advantage a MOC has over a difficult hike or challenge. If the intent of a MOC is to exclude people or reserve special prizes for certain people, then one might as well create a "private cache" and not list it on GC.com until the members of the "target audience" have completed the cache. At that point, the community-at-large could claim any "sloppy seconds" and the target audience could claim their "smilies."


    There are two different ways to look at it, and this is the negative way. A more positive way is to reward paying members for having done so. I look at it like when you download software that has only limited features enabled. yeah it works, but when you pay for the full version you get the cooler stuff. People who want the basics, get the basic. People who want full features and access, get that. I don't think it's elitists at all (not your words, those are mine, but I know some people view it that way, thus my choice of language.)


    All one is doing is denying a finder the ability to log a "smiley." Non-paying members join paying-members on group hunts in order to find the MOC, or a paying-member simply gives his/her non-paying member buddy a copy of the cache page.


    But that's the point. I don't think MOC were ever meant to be harder then regular caches. You don't get the smiley. See above comments. and yes, basic members can go on hunts with other who hand them the page, but how do they log it?


    I conclude, therefore, that although the MOC concept was an interesting one, it has failed to "deliver as promised."


    I would agree that premium memberships have faield to deliver as promised because there aren't that many "premium features". As for MOC caches, I'm really unclear why you feel that they haven't delivered? What were your expectations? I suspect you anticpated harder caches, and if thats what you expected, well yeah, i then I can see where you might've been disapointed, but... was that really the point? I never expected anything but a cache that was restricted to who could access it. And thats exactly what it is. Maybe I have low expectations? >shrug<


    3. The ability for the owner of the MOC to see who had viewed the cache page via the "Audit Trail" was a most popular and sought after feature. Unfortunately, it was quickly discovered that the audit trail could be circumvented. It was a major flaw that largely undermined the value of MOCs.


    >scratches head< maybe I shouldn't be asking (or maybe no one should answer me publically) but how can that be done? if you have to be a premium member to see it, and you have to log in so the system *knows* you are premium member... how can you view it if you're not logged in? One post mentioned pocket queeries. so they don't show up on the list of those who have viewed? if thats the case isnt there a fix?

  2. (14) The Haunted Hospital - 3.6 miles - From the cache description: "I THINK THERE IS ENOUGH IN THE REAL WORLD TO KEEP ME SCARED, LIKE ASBESTOS, BROKEN GLASS, JAGGED METAL AND PAINT HUFFERS AND OTHER PEOPLE TO BE WARY OF." Not in a hurry to find this one.

    #1: that spot sounds right up my alley.

    #2: how in the hell is this cache possibly meeting approval requirements? Isn't one of the requirements that it not involve trespassing which this sounds like it has to be.

  3. the nearest on my list that hasnt been claimed is a multi which I've been working on in stages. Another is one I had DNF on & havent had a chance to go back to. two are part of a series in a park and I want to give myself an afternoon to go after them all in one attempt. the other 16 are all in NY. I'm not going to NY just to geocache, period. I rarely if ever have a reason to go to NY and if I do, I'm not going to be geocaching. Ergo, I will always have a lot of Ny caches on my nearest list.



  4. I wanna pick it up so I can add a TB goal sheet and paint it with purple fur


    seriously though. i would pick it up. but I have no idea where I would leave. I cant picture any cache I've ever encountered being large enough to hold it, well except maybe this one


    Besides, any cache that i would feel comfortable leaving it next to (because it was so out of the way) I wouldnt want to carry a 14 lb bowling ball to, and if it was close enough to carry it to, I probably wouldnt feel comfortable leaving it there. I mean 14 lbs would get pretty heavy pretty quickly I imagine...


    but It'd be fun trying to find a place to hide it.

  5. Yup, I've been to the ship's graveyard many times.


    It's certainly among the most memorable places that I've ever explored. A kayak (at high tide) is the best way because of the extreme amount of debris that exists there just waiting to tear you up.

    There are several ships that can be boarded and explored.


    The problem is that it is certainly private property. I don't mean to spoil anyone's plans, but the owner of the salvage yard has been known to aggressively chase people out. So, a cache would be a problem, but off-hour exploration of the place is very common.


    There are many other wrecks along the Kill Van Kull that exist on NYC property and are easily accessable by kayak or canoe. The challange is usually to find a place to put-in. The shoreline is lined with heavy industry and petro chemical plants.

    how much can be explored sans a kayak? this has been on my place to visit list for a while. I might be able to convince the owner to allow a visit for me, but not sure about "me & all my friends". any idea the name of the boat yard or owner?

  6. I googled the topic but "custom geocoins" generally only got me to other people who had created their own custom geocoins, but nothing on how to make some of my own. Same them when i searched the forums.


    So.... where do I go and what does it cost? again, I want to make my own custom geocoin, not buy a standard design.

  7. I found a cache. but the ammo can was frozen shut. I logged as a DNF, however I have subsequently been told by others it would have been acceptable to log as a find. (not by the owner himself though). So I went back into that forsaken swamp during the spring.


    Hey, I would have let you get away with that, you should have said something. You found the cache. I think its the people who don't find caches and claim finds that have people shaking their heads.



    are you talking about this container???




    I wrested it from the hidey hole where you had placed it and kept it as a sourvenier of the days fun.

  8. There may not be one black and white definition. At least not in my mind. Generally, if you don't find it you don't find it. We've already gone over the variables and what it really comes down to is if you can sleep at night with every one of you finds then hey, who are we to argue. I can say that out of 500 + finds, two of them were not "traditional" finds. Both I had verified beyond a shadow of a doubt where the cache was supposed to be. One I had verified with the owner where it was and was granted the find. I also offered to replace the cache which was accepted. The other was a very old cache where the owner was no longer active, I verified the location with a cacher that previously found it and I replaced that one too.


    I think we all agree that if we find a busted and muggled cache container near GZ that's a find right? What if we find some contents of the cache near GZ? (Assuming it's verified that they were the actual contents.)

    generally speaking there should be something to find though. If the contents are scattered about then you can retrieve them, and put them back in the container. Or take them with you and return them to the cache hider. or come back another time with a container of your own. but when its not there, when there was *N*othing to *F*ind, when thats a NF then, isn't it?

  9. That's one of my favorite sites. Anyone know about the old boat graveyard in SI? I've wanting to visit that.


    I've also been wanting to combine the sport of urban exploring with geocaching. Obviously I would have to list the caches somewhere else.

    if you go to the boat graveyard, you better tell me about your plans.

  10. Isn't a brownie just a smaller version of a girl scout?  :unsure:


    That's a geocaching mini-skirt  :ph34r:


    Now back to my medication...

    That's what I though too. Nice skirt. Oops, GWho did it again.

    HMM... where that "report an offensive post" button??


    And lemme write the next joke for ya...


    "where's that "report an offensive icon" button?



  11. i have stacks of printouts in my car should I be in that area. unfortunateyl I sometimes assume I had a printout when i really don't. or I find that once there the cache is a NF. oh... the coordinates were updated. or it was archived. or some such irritation. I generally try to plan it before leaving the house at least.

  12. Sorry my geowindow can't make it. Neither can my wife. :rolleyes:

    fricking typoes.


    well my geowidow may not be able to make it.


    due to an *ahem* scheduling problem I may not have a babysitter.


    can i bring a 5 yr old? obviously liquor is served, but is this more a reataurant or a bar? not sure if he can attend, in which case my geowidow can't attend either.

  13. ... will be ringing the wife ...

    I've never seen this before... some sort of medieval torture? :rolleyes:

    It's an ancient form of kama sutra. Illegal in 42 states. :rolleyes:

    44 and and the US *virgin* territories.


    If you ask nicely I may demonstrate the process tonight. my wife will be there you know

  14. just in case anyone was interested... will be ringing the wife but probably not the andy bear (nneed a break for the adults to get out ya know?) we also thought maybe we'd go to see bourne supremacy afterwards. theres a 10Pm showing at ,clifton commons, which should be a 5 minute or so ride away if this plae is where i think it is.


    So if anyone is interested in catching a movie.... see ya all there!

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