J the Goat

I was thinking the same thing about those guys, they'll have good advice on how to get around a bit. I think CG is NJ actually, or near there.

Posting a 'NM' because you think a cache is missing is (IMO) not the thing to do. You should post a 'DNF' and note in that log that you think it may be missing. Actually finding pieces of an apparent cache is a different story. If you read the rest of that post, it makes more sense. If there's construction or a signigicant obvious change to GZ, a quick search if possible is fine, but there's nothing wrong with a NM log just to let the CO know that something may have changed with their GZ.

That's really cool! I picked one up that wanted it's picture taken with food. A surfboard that wanted to visit surf spots around the world. On a side note, one of my generic goal TB's made it to and had it's picture taken at the Super Bowl, I thought that was a pretty cool photo for a TB to get randomly.

Good for you. I like it

Good to hear she's alright at least. Larry the cacher chick maybe? Thanks for the update Yuckster

Thanks for the laugh this morning

How did you get Pinehurst to show up? That's a MAJOR accomplishment MAJOR? i think you mean MAGOR! Thank you for the bug report

100 feet offtrail would be against the 40 foot guideline Link please to the "40 foot guideline". B. I was curious about that one myself

How did you get Pinehurst to show up? That's a MAJOR accomplishment

I agree with the above posters, but here's a different look at it. If the etrex 10 is priced at 115, and the app is $10, that's a total of $125. You stated you're also looking at the Magellan priced at $150, it's less to buy both if you can't decide It also depends on what kind of caching you plan on doing. The dedicated GPS unit will be a bit more accurate. If you plan on finding urban caches around town, your phone should work just fine to check things out. If you're more the type to spend a day on the trail, you may lose phone coverage, your GPS reception won't be as strong, and the battery life of the smart phones will tremendously limit your caching day. If you do go with the etrex and decide a few months from now that it's not for you, they do have a decent resale value, so it's not a complete and total wash. Good luck, and welcome!

I want you to know how much I enjoyed reading this. I actually laughed a bit. Also, to make my post about geocaching: Matchsafes are like $6 at my wal-mart! Crazy! 99 cents here. You're getting S to the crewed

Throw me into the camp that thinks the caches may still be there to dissuade people from trying to place caches on said land. It makes sense, but that's only from the outside. Best bet is asking said reviewers. Is there a reason you choose not to take that route? I get not going to the lilypad with this, and that's fine. I'm not clear on a reason to avoid asking the reviewers directly though.

If you're shaky on it, don't do it.

I'm still a newbie, but I was wondering if creating a "Multi-Cache" with the final location hidden would be a good way to get them to go through the park? Then I could have the ending place be where that one picture is? The reason why is it's a nice park, but I think there's a reason no one else has placed a geocache yet. The City Park is muggleville and is mostly open grass playing fields, playgrounds, swing sets, and bowery picnic table areas. In my first any only geocache I've placed, I put a "regular size" in a different park and people in their comments said "Thanks for taking me to the park, the kids liked the playground". However, there were plenty of shrubs and evergreens to hide it, but in this park I'm thinking of it's a nice park but none of those dense shrubs. I'm also trying to get rid of my magnetic switch plate I bought, and can't send it back, so I'm trying to figure out what to do with it. Maybe since you've been geocaching for a while you'd have some advice? One of the main issues I have with MSP's is that they don't tend to bring me to interesting places. They're common in parking lots, on the sides of building in alleys, and on electrical equipment, and in all honesty, I don't care about those places. They aren't weather resistant (adding plastic baggies DOES NOT help), they're in high muggle areas 99/100 times (I don't do this to try to sneak around in public), and there's a lot of validity to the arguments about fake electrical equipment/covers. There may be other reasons for this park being devoid of caches. Maybe the city has a no geocaching in the parks kind of policy. Maybe there's no good places to hide a cache there. I still say that a light post in the parking lot fits the description of no good places to hide a cache. There may be an anti-geocaching maintainence worker who keeps an eye out for caches in "his" park and throws them away as they show up. It's unfortunate that you can't return the switchplate. Can you use it to hide your own house key? It's also unfortunate that they don't make quality geocache containers for a multitude of reasons. I would say that your best bet is to cut your losses on the "container", find a good quality spot to hide a cache, and put out a good container for people to enjoy. You'll enjoy it more that way and there won't be nearly the amount of problems as there will be with a standard substandard parking lot hide. Good luck.

If you rechecked the coordinates and they're still okay, and it looks like you changed the description, you should be getting people searching again assuming they haven't already. What type of GPS did you use to find the cache? If it's a smartphone of some sort, that may be where your problem lies. One of the folks who logged a DNF said they were looking around a fence and some trees. Is this an accurate description of the cache location?

You're also going to see a variance in what people see as quality swag. I dont' trade swag often unless I'm caching with my kids, but I recently found a cool little Ivory duck/bird thing that I just had to keep. Probably worth 2 or 3 bucks, but I'll trade way up for something like that. I'm sorry you didn't find what you were looking for in this hobby. Better luck with the next one.

+1 This is fine as long as in the description you state that it's a micro that's well cammoed. Don't surprise those of us who like to move trackables or cache with children with a micro container. Identify it somewhere so I know one way or the other.

That does make some sense, and I'll take that as the tone of the OP. My counter to that then, is go find new locations. A quick peek at the map centered on the OP's latest hide shows a very large area of untapped space for new caches. Find new places for new, quality caches instead of recycling the old locations strictly for the purpose of recycling them. Nice catch though PP.

If your point is to bring people to the park, why not bring them into the park and not to the edge of the parking lot where they don't have to enter the park? Hide a good cache IN the park, and viola! Problem(s) solved.

How so? USPS boxes are private property of the USPS. The penalty for tampering with a postal mail collection device is a fine of $20,000 and one year in FEDERAL prison. Attaching any unapproved device to the mailbox is tampering with the mailbox. Unlikely that you would get the maximum penalty just for hiding a cache, but I don't want to be a test case. BTW, the penalty extends to anyone who knows about the 'device' but didn't report it, and you just signed a logbook to prove you were there? For some reason I read that as UPS and not USPS. I believe that the key word in that law is tampering. Tampering is defined as "to render something harmful or dangerous by altering its structure or composition". Using that definition of tampering I don't see how attaching a cache to a USPS mailbox makes it harmful or dangerous. I took a look at USC 18 USC 1705. Which is what I assume that you are referring to. I'll quote it here. "Whoever willfully or maliciously injures, tears down or destroys any letter box or other receptacle intended or used for the receipt or delivery of mail on any mail route, or breaks open the same or willfully or maliciously injures, defaces or destroys any mail deposited therein, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both." I don't see anything about attaching unproved devices being considered tampering. However I agree. I wouldn't want to be the test case. I think it's this part right here. Nevermind, I just actually read what I was responding to. Bleh. That being said, I don't think the USPS would appreciate things being stuck to their mailboxes.

How so? USPS boxes are private property of the USPS. The penalty for tampering with a postal mail collection device is a fine of $20,000 and one year in FEDERAL prison. Attaching any unapproved device to the mailbox is tampering with the mailbox. Unlikely that you would get the maximum penalty just for hiding a cache, but I don't want to be a test case. BTW, the penalty extends to anyone who knows about the 'device' but didn't report it, and you just signed a logbook to prove you were there? For some reason I read that as UPS and not USPS. I believe that the key word in that law is tampering. Tampering is defined as "to render something harmful or dangerous by altering its structure or composition". Using that definition of tampering I don't see how attaching a cache to a USPS mailbox makes it harmful or dangerous. I took a look at USC 18 USC 1705. Which is what I assume that you are referring to. I'll quote it here. "Whoever willfully or maliciously injures, tears down or destroys any letter box or other receptacle intended or used for the receipt or delivery of mail on any mail route, or breaks open the same or willfully or maliciously injures, defaces or destroys any mail deposited therein, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both." I don't see anything about attaching unproved devices being considered tampering. However I agree. I wouldn't want to be the test case. I think it's this part right here.

You may not care about FTFs but many do, just their way of enjoying Geocaching the way they want to play it, Mellow Out Seemed pretty mellow to me. Molehills...

Will this be on your property? You're still inserting something into the ground for the purpose of your hide, and while some will say that's alright because you're not "digging" to place it, it's really not a good idea. If you do reside in the camp that says this type of hide is alright (and it's not a small population) then you have to answer the first question. Do you feel it appropriate to go around sitcking rebar into the ground on other people's property? Would you want it done on yours? I like your creativity, but I'd implore you to use a different method to hide your caches. Good luck

Mayhap this is referring to the trial app? That puts a limit on caches, but to my knowledge has nothing to do with one's membership level...

25 feet isn't really that bad....