CenTexDodger

We can look at the area in question, but we don't know you area the way you do,. The best thing is to use Garmin's Map view on their website to find the area you are looking for. go here and click the Topo US 2008 viewer in the upper right hand corner.

you get the idea...

More of the same, see above.

Double post--I am forum issues today!

From the home page select--> maps-->on the road maps--> under the City navigator set, select North America--> click the viewer in the upper right corner. It brings up the viewer for City Nav NA 2008. Wow, that's truly bizarre. When I follow those exact steps, I get a pop-up window with the title at the top of the map reading: "City Navigator North America v8". Theron That is bizarre. I tried it about 2 minutes ago and got this: "City Navigator North America 2008"

From the home page select--> maps-->on the road maps--> under the City navigator set, select North America--> click the viewer in the upper right corner. It brings up the viewer for City Nav NA 2008.

Sorry about the double post. Perhaps an admin. can eliminate one of them...

I just went to Garmin's site and when I pulled up the viewer for City Nav, it said 2008, so I assume it is the new version. I did some quick checking of the areas that I travel, and so far, I have not seen any changes (in areas where there have been changes in the actual roadways). I thnk the biggest disappointment is that the new Toll Road around Austin is nowhere to be seen. Anyway, it is there, you can check it out for yourself!

Correct. It installs the program (MapSource) and all the maps on the HD from the word go. (edited for clarity) And there is no option not to do this? I run Windows on a virtual hard drive from within a Mac, so I don't have 3 GB worth of space to store the maps. If there's no way to avoid installing all the maps, then I guess I'll be skipping this product. As far as I know, no. Now I am sure that some more technically savvy people than I am may tell you differently or know a workaround. Kinda funny, but one of the biggest complaints people had about the old Topo USA was that it did not install on the HD and they had to carry the disks around, or do the registry hack.

From what I understand, it won't route you on major highways if you are a pedestrian or on a bicycle. It also will not do u-turns if you are in a truck. I am sure that there are other, more specific parameters.

I usually can get free shipping from Amazon, but I didn't find Topo 2008 on their site. Did I miss it? Try This link. You will see the old Topo USA packaging, but the description is for Topo 2008.

I assume that you have detailed maps loaded into your unit. I also assume that when you loaded the maps you checked the "Include route calculation data" checkbox. Alright. Assuming that you have done both of the above, the GPS unit has different routing parameters than MapSource. Since you cannot customize these parameters, it will sometimes route differently than what MapSource does. When you load routes from your computer to the GPS, you are only actually loading the start and end points, plus any intermediate points. My suggestion is this. Drop a few intermediate points along your route (on the computer). That way, when you load the route, it will force the GPS unit to follow the same route that you want.

So one really needs to have the maps on DVD instead of the SD card to be able to make the routes on the computer first. Or can all this be done just as easy on the gps? It is definitely easier to build routes on the computer and transfer them. You just need to be aware of how the GPS will act when it receives your route, and that a number of via points will help the GPS understand how you want to go. It is also easier to see "the big picture" on the computer screen. you can zoom out and still see some details about where you are.

Well, You have some options--You could drop a waypoint and build a route going through that waypoint, You could change the avoidances and re-route based on that. Or you could just start driving and let the unit figure out which way you are going. With maps on your computer you can create routes and load these routes into a GPS. I have a 60CSx and I can only tell you how it works in that unit. The unit only remembers the start, end and any intermediate waypoints you have in the route. The unit then creates the route based on those points. In other words, the GPS does the work, it does not receive the turn-by-turn instructions from the computer.

Just to clarify, I believe that nos. 2 & 4 were covered in the last MapSource update (6.12.4) and are available regardless of what mapping product you have.

Correct. It installs the program (MapSource) and all the maps on the HD from the word go. (edited for clarity)

Wow. I have never ordered from them, but that is cheaper than the Upgrade DVD that I have not installed yet.

Any reason you say that? I have been using non-NT in my 60CSx and it works just fine. I have been upgrading since City Select V5.

I have a 60CSx and it works as described. You connect your GPS to you computer, select the maps you want to send, and it saves them to the card. It really does not have any choice, since there is no internal storage for maps. If you use a reader, you select the drive letter in Mapsource and it works the same way.

And, if you already had the old Topo USA, there is an additional $30 rebate. That makes your total $46!

I don't have any maps loaded in the 60csx except topo and the base maps that come with it. We are definitely seeing topo maps -- the contour lines are there. Just no trails, not even the forest roads. Guess our area just doesn't have the detail of some others? I'll check and see if I can see any within mapsource. You have to be zoomed in to the highest resolution. Check in MapSource. If the trails show up there, they will show on the GPS. I camp in a Wilderness area that is part of a larger national forest. The trails that are in the area show up on my GPS. The trails will be a brown dotted line, and the contours are faint enough that the trails are easy to see. Edited for spelling.

Yes, you can run both. They will actually both work with the Mapsourse interface, and will be available wth the pull down menu at the top of the screen.

I think that is right. Telenav used the Blackberry data network to download maps and POIs, and as far as I know, they are updated when their map provider updates. City Nav is updated once a year with an Update DVD. I know that with my 60CSx, I can go to the mountains or wherever and it works. I don't know that that is true of the other, if it needs access to the data network. It is probably well suited to the suburban/urban road warrior.

Alright... The only differences between the 60Cx and the 76Cx are cosmetic (size and shape, button location, the 76 floats and comes with a larger micro SD). the 60Cx seems to be preferred because it is marketed as an outdoor unit rather than a marine unit (as the 76 is), and maybe because people prefer the feel of it in their hand. Now on to the differences between the 60Cx and the Legend HCx. AFAICT, size and shape, button placement, and screen size. I have not heard anyone running side-by-side comparisons between the H chip and the SiRFstar III (in the 60Cx) but I would bet they are comparable. The only differences between the Legend and the Vista is the Vista adds an electronic compass and a barometric altimeter. I currently use a 60CSx with City Nav for in car navigation. I like it and it works for me. My wife uses Telenav with her Blackberry (it has a GPS receiver built in). The Blackberry set up has voice prompts whereas the 60 just beeps for upcoming turns. However, you also have to pay for the subscription for Telenav ($10 per year, IIRC). For me, the screen size of the 60Cx trumps the smallness of the Legend, especially if it was going to be used for car navigation. If you are planning on using the Blackberry anyway, you may want to save a few dollars on a handheld and get the Legend. ETA: My wifes Blackberry is the 8703e and has a GPS built in, there was no need to add the puck receiver.

That sounds about right, you might find it for 5 or 6 dollars cheaper, but around there.