Ma & Pa

We are not techies but have had very little problem with GSAK and when we did, Clyde replied within an hour. We have some savvy friends who use GSAK and they have given us tips that help us. The cost is one time, not yearly, and the registration code can be used to add it to more than one computer without charge. We have it on 3 laptops We have used GSAK for so long that I am not sure I know how to load a pocket query without GSAK. Here are some of the things we do with GSAK Garmins usually show the cache name or GC code on the geocaching compass screen. We use codes that provides us diffrent info. We get the last part of the GC code, the cache size and part of the cache name. This info tends to be useful when looking for a cache, without having to go to the geocache screen. We have a number of databases in GSAK and we update them regularly. Before loading caches into the gps, we review the caches that seem to be in trouble and delete from the list if necessary. Before leaving on a long road trip we prepare a number of databases using routes. We update and review the databases as we move along before loading them. Most of our caching is in Maritime Canada. We keep an up to date database of all our unfound caches (currently over 26000). If we decide to go caching for a few days in an area, we go to the GSAK map and draw a polygon around the area that we want to attack, and GSAK will provide us with a filtered list of all the caches in that area, which we then review and load on our gps. We do a lot of cache series during our trips and GSAK is great for publishing the logs. We prepare a template for all the caches with code to thank the owner by name and to show the number of that particular find. We then add specific info on certain caches and we end up publishing within a very short time. .

Sounds foolproof if done that way.

Here is the first paragraph of a Multi cache we found today. Back in 2002, The Chapmen hid a multi-cache in Port Elgin N.B. It had 13 finds before it was archived 4 years later. The cache remained there undisturbed from March, 2006 until Sept, 2014. This cache is hidden almost exactly like the original, same discription, same container and same contents. http://coord.info/GC5FGTV

Here is part of my original post starting this thread. Here was my question. What would you do?

I think the state ones are more than sufficient. Until you get all 50 states, then a USA one would be great. 51 with DC

Or what? We will take back Justin Beiber It seems we aren't doing a good enough job of upsetting Canadians 'cause that dude is still around. I think Ma & Pa got it wrong. As retaliation, they will leave Justin Bieber in the US of A! . yep http://www.sarcasmoholics.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/sarcasm-sign.jpg

Or what? We will take back Justin Beiber There will be no more Canadian bacon We will take back all our Tim Horton coffee shops in Michigan, New York, Ohio and Kentucky. We will have the Bare Naked Ladies remove their theme song from Big Bang Theory

''' GCBBA was posted Jun 2001, not June 2000. It replaces GC41 (fairly confusing) .. Do not get us Canadian upset The owner says the listing and name was changed but it is the same cache This cache was originaly named GC41 but was relisted as GCBBA when caches were taken out of the (GC.com) site admin account and given to individuals. .

No, I wouldn't report it unless it was causing a specific problem. Once I filed an NA because there was an old puzzle cache that didn't have its waypoints filed, and a new cache was published so close to one of the stages that I was afraid people would find the puzzle cache stage while looking for the new traditional, so I filed an NA on the new cache. It ended up with the owner of the old cache deciding to archive it, so I came to regret being so annal about it. LOL

Yep you are correct. I simply copied the log from the cache page. I kinda like what is being said in the log. There are rules that should be followed, but once in a while it is interesting to have a little exception. Makes for an interesting conversation at the monthly caching breakfast.

http://www.geocaching.com/seek/nearest.aspx?tx=32bc9333-5e52-4957-b0f6-5a2c8fc7b257&lat=51.322083&lng=-113.603600

Would you report caches that break the saturation rule? Perhaps you would think that it is a rare occurrence and you were glad to have this exception to the rule. Here are logs on a couple of them that I have seen. I have to say that this is the first time I recall seeing a situation like this. Interesting, and certainly novel in the anals of geocaching. I'm thinking we didn't update certain people on certain things... and why would you? SL, TFTH. I had heard the story of why the two of these were so close together and was thankful for the two easy smileys TFTC Yay FTF. Had to see a gentleman in xxxx so took advantage to grab a quick cache. Not sure what happened here as xxxxx Puzzle final no more than 50 meters away. Coords are bang on. SL, Thanks for the cache,

If you are walking or biking a series on a trail, how do you proceed?? MA & I do caching series' together and may often go with a friend or two ( but not with a large group). We do not separate and look for different caches at the same time, but we may not all walk at the same speed and may not all arrive at the next cache at the same time. I started a topic about LEAPFROGGING, thinking it would get us some advice on acceptable methods to cache as a team or with a group. Everyone seemed to agree on the method that was not appropriate, but there was little about what was considered acceptable. Here was our question Here is the definition that everyone seems to agree with If you are walking or biking a series on a trail, how do you proceed??

climbing a tree in winter with snowboots FOUND LOG This was our cache of the day. The cache is certainly winter friendly but it is certainly tough to get to the tree after a storm. A 300 meter walk through an open field with the cold wind howling around us, and deep snow. PA volunteered to climb which wasnt too bad even with the high winter boots. When the cache was reached, PA dropped a mitt. brrr. Then when he finished signing he dropped the lid to the cache. He had to descend partway down the tree to get the lid from MA, and then had to climb back up to the cache. TFTC. Caching is always an adventure. A fave.

Here is our question Here is the definition that everyone seems to agree with Mr. Yuck figured out why we were asking the question and gave us a big compliment. Thank You. MA & I do caching series together and may often go with a friend or two ( but not with a large group). We do not separate and look for different caches at the same time, but we may not all walk at the same speed and may not all arrive at the next cache at the same time.

I have seen comments about cachers leapfrogging when doing a series in a group. How exactly is this done ? Is there more than one method and if so, is one method more acceptable than another? PAul

Found it Found it 13 Mar 12 Looked for a while with no find but going to mark found because I will not be back this way until next year, wintery conditions may be a factor.

I think real cachers also are aware of that , I'm pretty serious when I say that. Just a random example, I know a 2002 joiner who had 6,000-7,000 finds, and about 100 hides before hiding their first nano a couple years ago. Unkown size with "nano" as the hint. You know that thing about how non premium members can log premium member only caches? We're the only ones that know that too. I logged finds by our grandsons on premium caches without using the method mentioned here. .

I think real cachers also are aware of that . .

Hint said Magnetic. PA is checking signs near the street. Ma is on a little mound checking a tree. An SUV drives by with an open window and someone yells: "She is closer". Yep a nano attached to a small nail in a hole in the large tree. I thought hiders could choose Unknown if they really did not want to give away the camo size or if they wanted to make it trickier. PAul

Photo gallery from our 8 th annual ICE WALK event where participants can walk across the ice to get caches on a couple of islands http://www.geocaching.com/seek/gallery.aspx?guid=d3ff4a73-5e0f-4faf-9413-597a35f36053 .

Is that the situation where the temporary caches have the GC code of an unpublished cache. Then after the event, the cache container is moved to a permanent location and is published with that GC code. Those who attended the event and found the temporary cache can then claim the cache.

We can all invent numbers And that's exactly what the thread is about. Actually the thread has to do with swapping containers Anyhow, there is no way I would believe that 30% of any population would cheat at anything. BTW I do not think that 70% would be considered a vast majority. With regard to high number cachers, I know quite a few cachers with more than 10,000 finds and most are extremely honest. They did not get high numbers by cheating or even concentrating on getting numbers. They get their numbers by their love of geocaching. Anyhow I just don't like people pointing fingers and shaming, especially without proof. So this is my final on this thread. .

We can all invent numbers

Wow Great story and photos. We have had many great moments. Here is one of the latest *************************** When we got to Tower Rd, we spotted a car with a TB tag in the back window, so we stopped and chatted with petitcache and wbbill. They had plans to get The Maxine's Mountain cache and invited us to go with them. That cache is on everyone's wish list so we were pleased to get the invite. We had to first cross a brook but we had not brought boots with us so there was a sharing of boots and the throwing of boots back across the brook. Apparently this is called Round hill. It is more of a mountain than a hill. The climb was a bushwack up a steep mountain, pulling ourselves slowly up the hill by grabbing all the small trees and branches that we could reach. It was quite the strenuous climb. After nearly an hour we finally ended up at the top completely exhausted and out of breath. The descent was tiring and hard on the legs as we tried to avoid slipping in the soft ground. The GPS track showed a drunken winding ascent and descent. The bushwack up and down that mountain took over 2 hours . Once back to the brook we had to do the boot exchange again, throwing boots and shoes across the water. MA & PA were last to cross. When we got our boots on, we decided to throw our shoes across. PA threw his shoes across the wide brook (20 feet wide) without problems. He then threw MA's shoes across one at a time but somehow he tossed the second one high in the air and it landed in the fast brook and headed downstream. Boy did PA ever run quickly through the water to grab the speeding shoe. Luckily the shoe was waterproof and no water got into it as it floated away, We then headed to a trail for a 5 km hike for a cache Thanks for the adventure. .