AndrewRJ

Ok this (even after rereading what you linked too) is how I understand it. You can't camp on the PUD property. But... The PUD Property ends just before the old Boulder/Greider Lake trailhead. IMO this means that we just have to be up the trail about the first 2 miles before it is legal. I understand that it is legal to camp at Boulder and Greider, which have the same starting point and the same parking location. Maybe someone else has better information.

I have been thinking about this a bit and after talking with the cache owner, I am wondering if there is any interest in doing this as an overnight. I am not sure the details of where we could camp but that would cut the hike down a bit. Either way I am very excited.

Just wanted to say that I had a great time on Saturday. That is a brutal elevation profile you have Greg. Next month August 27th "On the way to Florence Rae"

What time?

Still planning on the trailhead at 7:30?

Ok, short notice, and not even a hike. Tomorrow Sunday the 10th I am going to drive up to Index-Galina road and take a look around the area where the washout is. Then I plan on driving around to Jacks Pass and see how far I get. I am looking to get back to the Silver Creek area and am just going to scout around and enjoy myself and grab a few caches. Anyone wanting to carpool or caravan, let me know. I am planning on leaving the Monroe area around 8 am.

Ok I have been looking at this for a really long time now and I am going to attempt it this year either way. It seems that we try one really challenging hike each year and for this year I am going to attempt to make it out to On the way to Florence Rae. Maybe it could be made into a HOTM maybe not. It is really looking like a 15 mile RT with a river crossing. Right now I am looking at the last week of August/First weekend of September as target dates. Anyone interested in a 5/5 or possible 2. (Lady Willowrose's deceptively hard adventure)

Dang it, B-day plans with the wife that day. Hopefully next month.

HOLY CRAP. Glad to hear you are still with us Crim. I think that would have broken my ability to stay calm.

Looks good, I am going to head up today with the family and check it out before the opening crowds. And never mind, that plan fell thru, ended up in Woodinville instead.

Looks good, I am going to head up today with the family and check it out before the opening crowds.

There was an news article I caught that indicated that they were going to give the 4th of July weekend a free pass as it were and start ticketing on Tuesday.

No problems, I still had days before I started grabbing for my pitchfork, I just couldn't figure out how I was overlooking the thing.

Ok am I totally missing something or has the bookmark list jholly puts together vanished? I am not seeing it on the listing page or on any of the caches on the route. Jim, any chance you changed this from public to private?

Just out of curiosity, then what? Knotweed just keeps coming back from the root, knocking it down won't do a bit of good, especially since it can reroot from broken off pieces, this could potentially make things worse.

For the old vehicle use permit, DFW regulations specified: Vehicle Use Permits may designate up to two vehicles for use. Permits must be placed in full view from outside the vehicle. Please have the license plate number(s) of the vehicle written in the space provided on the permit. That web site has been taken down but, for the next few days, you can still see it in the Google cache. We can hope that the new permit won't impose this same restriction, but it looks like we won't know until July 1. Per the Discoverpass.wa.gov site: "Q. Why can’t I transfer one Discover Pass among my vehicles? A. The Discover Pass legislation specifically states the pass applies to one vehicle. " Discover Faq Like I said I never actually found that in the actuall document. I may have overlooked it, or not understood it.

You know I actually sat down and read the legislation. I am no lawyer but I noticed 2 things. It sets up the pass and says that it has to be in its carrier and it says that it has to be visible and that the pass will be needed per car. But I have yet to see anywhere that says that you have to fill in the license plate line on the pass or that there is a penalty for not doing so.

I will be there too.

4. Sno-Park permit ($40) So which areas will be covered by the Discovery Pass? The Fish and Game vehicle use permit areas, the Northwest Forest Pass areas, access to DNR and state land trust areas which currently do not require a permit, access to state parks--is that correct, and is anything else covered? If I have this and a national parks permit, is everything covered? My understanding, And I may be wrong, is that we will need three passes based on what you are describing GA. The National Pass would cover the the National parks, the Forest service pass will cover the same trail heads that they cover now, and the new Discovery Pass will cover DNR, WSFW, and other state forest lands.

Hey Dick I know you aren't too worried about this, but I checked on the cache in Duvall that you DNFed on your way through. Its there. Glad you had other options while you were here however.

Apparently McAfee site advisor doesn't like there site either. It rated yellow with potentially suspicious activities occurring.

Thanks for the guidance. I really appreciate it and I can tell how much time and effort you put into each CM. Very cool. So tell me...does anyone ever get ALL of the caches on the route in the one day? Phew...I'm tired just reading the itinerary! The simple answer is yes. I am in one of those groups that jholly made mention of, We are a bit nuts its true and the level of preparation that we put in is getting a bit extreme. I admit that we usually do the first few the night before to get a jump on the main group. I create a text file from GSAK of all the caches that gets spiral bound along with the route, then the entire route is Google checked to try to pre-locate as much as possible, ie in a guardrail or a lampskirt and to check parking and access. Those notes are loaded as well. Then we have a driver who has no fear, the driver also reorders the caches in his GPS so that they are numbered so that when he searches for the next one on the route they come up in numeric order. As a group we have stickers that we used (although we have upgraded to a stamp if I can find where I left it) and we also have a lot of practice as we have only missed a few. That said we stop for lunch and pit stops and above all we have a LOT of fun. Also the routes are usually more like 90 caches not 150. I doubt we will get all of these this time on Saturday, so we will probably finish up on Sunday instead.

Sounds like a great trip Jeff. Good for you!

Dick that sounds like a great road trip. Was the cache you looked for in Duvall GC2BBP2 Book Cache 1: Bridge to Terabithia?

Ok short notice, I will be doing a hike to the Lost Lake area north of Monroe, This area parking at N 47° 56.991 W 121° 53.312. If others are interested I will start at 8 am, if no one responds I will probably get going earlier.