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This is the scatter with my 3rd OR 600 on the summit of Golgotha (11,200'), beautiful day, clear view of horizon, lots of mosquitoes......the lower left loop with the orange is all scatter. A 7.8 mile spike! When I finally bailed on the 600, the REI manager said he had many other customers report similar when I showed him this image. Thought I'd move onto the 700 since they changed the patch location on the circuit board, but not impressed. Use my 60cSX with worn buttons, for important navigation. Interesting thread.

My hike with an OR 700 in Soapstone Prairie shown below clocked me at 767 mph, with a major spike of 2.7 mi.s. Many smaller spikes also shown, crossing the CO/WY border. Never encountered this with my 60cSX. Doubt that GLONASS is the culprit, since many tech papers report increased accuracy with GPS+GLONASS, although not rec grade receivers.

I've experienced your problem (summits) on 3 different (warranty) OR600s and on my current OR700. Good luck in your endeavors with Garmin. I have never experienced the scatter on a summit with my 60cSX. Have encountered multipath in canyons with my 60cSX, but never on a summit. Maybe quad-helix vs patch antenna?

My apologies to Garmin...they did listen, F/W 3.5 issued.... Hello James, Want to let you know that our engineers fixed your issue with Oregon loosing track data when plugging the device into your computer. We release a software update of 3.5 that should resolve your issue. Below are the steps on how to update the software on the Oregon. The software update may erase user data that has been saved to the device. Before performing the software update, back up all user data (waypoints, routes, and tracks). For instruction on backing up user data from the device, please see related content. To update your device's software a program called Garmin Express will need to be downloaded and installed*. Once the program has been installed, please follow the prompts to add your device and then install any available updates. Thank you for choosing Garmin, [Tech Rep]

....and the Garmin rep didn't seem concerned about the unconfirmed deletion of user data.

Garmin tech support lost his track in his OR750, as well. For rollback, see the F/W section under the following: http://www.gpsrchive.com/Oregon 7x0/index.htm GCD Update Procedure Use the links in Firmware History to download the zipped file for the desired version Unzip the downloaded archive and extract the gcd file Rename the gcd file to gupdate.gcd Remove µSD card from the Oregon 7x0, if present Connect the Oregon 7x0 to your computer and enter Mass Storage Mode Copy the gupdate.gcd file to [GPSr]\Garmin\gupdate.gcd Disconnect and reboot the GPSr Once the update is completed, the GPSr will delete the gupdate.gcd file

OR700 off with v3.40, plugging into USB will empty the current.gpx file in the OR700. The file will still show in File Explorer in the current folder, but it will be empty. I've rolled back to v3.35 and have no problems losing data in the OR's current.gpx file.

New to v3.40.... When the OR700 is OFF, then connected to USB port (Win 10), the file F:\Garmin\GPX\Current\Current.gpx is automatically deleted after the "Saving all waypoints, routes, and trip log info in GPX format" GPSr screen popup. When the OR700 is ON, then connected to USB port, F:\Garmin\GPX\Current\Current.gpx is preserved. Have not observed this feature of automatically deleting user data without the user's consent in previous versions of F/W. Garmin tech support confirmed this behavior today with their own unit. So if you have a valuable triplog which you want to preserve with transfer to PC, be sure to turn on the GPSr first before attempting transfer.

Some light reading, OR 600 elev tests.....better to calibrate.

Caltopo ?

"The magnetic signature in AAA batteries can influence compass readings. To prevent this, the Kestrel Weather Meter has a flexible plastic shim that slides in between the batteries" Kestrel shim

Not to worry, the theory of evolution will prevail..... http://www.newsday.com/news/region-state/pokemon-go-player-crashes-car-while-playing-game-cops-say-1.12048914

SUSSAMB's post worked for me: SUSSAMB02-11-2016, 08:08 AMMine does, if your doesn't try this: From the Command Prompt type the following as applicable and press ENTER: (Make sure you are in the C:\ root directory) "C:\Program Files (x86)\Google\Google Earth Pro\client\googleearth.exe" /RegServer (works with Google Earth Pro in Win 7...10) "C:\Program Files\Google\Google Earth Pro\client\googleearth.exe" /RegServer (Google Earth Pro in XP) "C:\Program Files\Google\Google Earth\client\googleearth.exe" /RegServer (Google Earth in XP) "C:\Program Files (x86)\Google\Google Earth\client\googleearth.exe" /RegServer (Google Earth non-Pro on Win 7, 8.x and 10) Note for those not used to using the command line in Windows, the double quotes in all of the examples are critical. They MUST be there and in the indicated places or you'll get an error that the directory name is invalid. It won't harm anything; it simply won't work.

CalTopo

Actually 3 data points, but not to minimize a single point be sure to check out the 600 wiki for a crowdsourcing the 600's unresolved problems. Your $220 might buy you a ticket to the Garmin "dance"...you know, tech support, update/rollback firmware, rebooting, etc. If you are considering "pulling the trigger" on the 600 "bargain", rather than wait for the next model iteration; ".... you've got to ask yourself one question: "Do I feel lucky?" Well, do ya, punk?"

Check the 600 wiki before you buy: http://garminoregon6xx.wikispaces.com/wiki/messages I've owned 3 of the 600s in 18 months....finally went back to my 60Csx.

@nikongod, Sometime ago I had a surveyor from a neighboring constr proj plant a PK nail in my yard with claimed centimeter accuracy (cost me a 6-pack of IPA). Here's the result of logging 1070 data points over 18 hours, concurrently, comparing the "mother of all GPSrs", 60Csx to my Oregon 600 (which I finally dumped after 16 months). You'll note that I used the track length as a measure of the scatter in the comparison. The 600 was tighter by 40%. I'm suspicious of the accuracy of the WGS coords that the surveyor gave me. I've noticed the W'ly bias in subsequent tests. I've worked with surveyors in my previous lifetime, and know that errors can be made. I am a believer in using benchmarks for valid positional (vert as well) comparisons. I've used county BMs with success. Not many USGS convenient for me. Good luck with your tests, look forward to the results.

Wonder how long till the next iteration of models...maybe touch screen + quad-helix?

I've used this system to charge my iPhone, as well as SEND device on BP'ing trips. Very weight & $$$ efficient.

Solution???....yeah http://garminoregon6xx.wikispaces.com/Common+Issues

I use my iPhone 5 without cellular and wifi service for GPS tracking.....specifically TopoMaps app with preloaded topos. You don't need cellular or wifi if your iOS device has a GPS chip in it. http://adventurealan.com/iphone4gps.htm

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I geotagged a 10-day trip down the Grand Canyon with my 60Csx, using Geosetter (freeware). There are different strategies you can use in Geosetter to minimize data collection on the GPSr: - Use Interpolation, with sparse data acquisition. - Use the mapping feature to pinpoint a location you know you were at. - And as others suggested, shut down the GPSr, and use mapping feature for subsequent pics. One more thing, Geosetter will automatically figure out which gpx file to use for each photo. Enjoy your trip!

I've been using ZAGG on many devices, but lately tried Armoursuit on my Oregon 600 from Amazon ( http://goo.gl/jWh9u1 ), and like the glass-like feel. The st'd ZAGG skin (custom cut, since they don't support Oregon 600) was sticky, and when Garmin replaced my Oregon 600. I went with the Armoursuit on my replacement...and love it. Same lifetime warranty, and reasonable prices thru Amazon.