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I know. Let's lure them with the promise of dental work.

ROBOMOPAR, gc superhero Now with back-up capabilities.

Doesn't Mopar watch Home Improvement? Actually, Mr. Hanky The Christmas Poo (South Park) says Hidey Ho too.

Sorry about my initial reply... I thought it was a scam. I sincerely apologize, and hope you're on the mend and feeling better soon.

Boy. Ugly, stupid, and psychologically crippled. Talk about disadvantaged. Ummm... just to be in the loop, what are those other "famous exposures" that were mentioned? Is there a Markwell you can give me?

Here's a little bit of my list: The Vehicle: Jeep Rescue Concept Car The GPSr: Garmin 60CS The Weapon: Beretta 9000S Type F 9mm The Boots: Merrell Chameleon Gore-Tex The tent? The sleeping bag? The kayak? The mapping software? What turns you on, equipment-wise?

Jeremy moved to an ashram and gave Duane his job... anything else?

Oh, yeah... I hadn't thought of Lyme as an injury--but I've got it. Officially: Chronic Disseminated Lyme and Neuroborreliosis, as well as Lyme reactivated Eppstein-Barr (that being reactivated mono).

Yeah, and if The Team(aggot) has members "all over the country" like its profile says, then why are all the finds in one area?

Oooooooo, you in trouble now, ugly guy! Misstah cop is coming over to rip you a new-ash-oh-well!

I understand that "scenic and historic" are really subjective, and that there is no sure-fire way to find the WOW in a cache listing. I definitely don't think there's anything that can tailor make a listing for me However, a solution like this could help differentiate more interesting caches from the "rest stop" "dumpster" "McDonald's" listings that are cropping up. Don'tcha think? ---- Later: Oh, OK... let me read the markwell, and thanks for that link KA... ----- Even Later: Wow! Thoroughly discussed! Blush...

It's starting to look like there are two distinct kinds of cachers--numbers competitors and people who seek out scenic or historic locations to experience. I'm worried that the numbers cachers are going to overwhelm the cache listings with a lot of--let's say, "really frighteningly un-thought out and lame"--cache locations. More and more, I find myself wishing that cache owners could choose to place a symbol on the search results page that designates "scenic" or "historic" caches, so people like me--who are looking for a special location--don't have to open, read and comb through 100 listings to find something we'd like to visit. I'm pretty sure that changing it would cause a headache up there in the ethereal world where these things get taken care of but it's going to have to happen sooner or later. I'm beginning to find my PQ's inconvenient, because they take me to places like dumpsters. So... whadd'you all think? Is it a good idea? Is it possible? Has it been hashed and re-hashed? (in that case, sorry--I couldn't find it )

Salvelinus put it so beautifully and concisely, and I thank him for his post. It gave me a lot to think about. I think Salvelinus and I are on the same page when it comes to what geocaching means to us. Unfortunately, "the spirit of the game" and what people get out of the game are different for different sorts of people; we can whine about hyper-active, insecure people whose egos are tied to happy faces, but we can't tell them not to play. They have an itch that they need to scratch, just like I do, and they have a right to satisfy whatever yearning this game fulfills for them--to pursue their own personal happiness, even if it appears to be a knucklehead kind of happiness. As long as they do it with consideration to all involved, and take care not to mess up sensitive environments, and log their finds and DNF's like they ought to, they have a right to be lame. As for the future of geocaching? I'm wondering if there isn't some way that we can differentiate between "scenic, historic, interesting" places, and "power grabs" (or both) on the cache search page. Like, maybe, a new symbol? That way, we could pick and choose, instead of studying the logs to see if the place is worthwhile or not.

I guess you could just have people carve or sharpie their names on a piece of wood, as opposed to a thin scroll.

Well, what are you going to keep the logbook in then, so the whole thing doesn't turn into a turdlike mess?

Found a turd. Think it might be the cache. Am logging it as a find because I came all this way, and there were scraps of what looked like paper intermingled with it. Please let me know if this turd is the cache. Nice spot! Good place for a permanent cache! Took nothing, left nothing, smelled log.

You just don't like having those unhappy purple faces staring back at ya, do ya? They hurt your ego, don't they? That's what it's all about It's about finding a way to say you failed, without really saying you failed.

Three weeks ago, I got a splinter under my fingernail--it was almost an inch long, and it went all the way in. It's got to be the worst form of torture... I nearly passed out from the pain! And it took me about 45 minutes to slooooowly pull it out with my Leatherman. I felt like I was having a baby!

Personally, I think power cachers could use a little Ritalin but to each his own, right? As long as you're not logging fake finds, I totally love you.

Yeah, like, take a look at this: http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_detai...2a-613bf680eba5 This was appearing as recently found on the PQ's for two weeks, which means that, if you're unable to read the logs, you'd happily go there and waste an hour of your time, digging through weeds at a site that had been completely bulldozed (by the way, my SBA was a DNF for about a month).

If you don't log your DNF's, you could wind up making things tough for people who do PQ'S and geocache on the go... not everyone has time or ability to read logs on the go--especially people with really slow internet connections, or people far from home, without a PDA. So, if someone logs a false find, or a note, rather than a DNF, people will assume the MIA cache is there and go for it, under these circumstances, and spend a lot of frustrating time looking. Why not log a DNF, and then edit it to a note or a SBA when the the cache indeed is confirmed missing? That way, you don't risk the chance of messing with someone's valuable time, you don't disrespect the history of the cache, and you let the cache owner and other cachers know promptly that something might be really wrong.

You can also edit a DNF to a note or a NA, depending on your preference, once it is confirmed that you were, in fact, hunting for an MIA cache--always being respectful of the history of the cache, and mindful of the cache owner's wishes.

I dreamed I met a certain hot celebrity while geocaching in the woods. GRRRRRRR! Can I have that dream again?

Yeah, CITO should apply to the caches, too I always take the liberty of maintaining caches when I go. It seems like the right thing to do... I always carry a pack of dollar stuff with me. When things are not looking good, I take out the broken McCrap and leave some cheap, yet decent, items for trade.

Oh, I'm so sorry, Pandybat. I didn't realize I was indulging in elitist, non-log-reading snobbery. Wow! Well, I stand corrected--GSAK and Premium Memberships, begone!