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If you buy a locked map product for your new CSX and it breaks 6 months later, Garmin will replace your CSX and give you a new unlock code for it (you will still have the 2nd code to use with another unit). If you scratch the DVD they will send you a new DVD for free, they won't even charge you postage. Seems reasonable to me. The cost difference between MG and CN is pretty minimal (for the US anyway). The downside to using MG is that it will be a little more inconvienent to create a mapset that supports autorouting. Since sendmap20 only supports 1Gig of maps you won't be able to create a mapset of the entire US even though the segment size is less than 2025, CN handles roundabouts better than MG (not an issue for most of the US), the directions using CN are more descriptive than they would be with MG, and sometimes the routing with MG is a little quirky.

Has anyone got SirfDemo working with any Garmin x model? When installing the program it says it now supports usb and to see the user guide for instructions on how to install the drivers, but the program didn't come with a user guide.

Find by name works with the 60CSx and City Navigator maps. When you select the maps to load to the GPS, a lot of time is spent building the index file that is needed for find by name to work, my guess is that the computer had a glitch during this process resulting in a corrupted file thus resulting in find by name not working. Try reloading the maps to the unit.

Not the best option for geocaching but great for driving, you can get a referbished iQue 3600 (still has a 1 year warrenty through Garmin) with maps (comes with City Select but you would be able to upgrade to the latest City Navigator maps for free) and auto cradle for $238 after shipping. Nice large touch screen and can use cheap SD cards for lots of map storage. Can be used for geocaching but the unit isn't waterproof and not as rugged as outdoor gps units, not Sirf III either.

The versions of MetroGuide after v4 have reduced land features, metroguide v8 will have the same detail as city navigator v8. Since you could pick up metroguide v4 pretty cheap, it might be an acceptable alternative. Otherwise if you want detail streams/lakes you would need to buy US Topo, and if you wanted road navigation you would also need to get City Navigator v8.

The rubber cover that goes around my eTrex Legend tore and fell off. I just wanted another rubber cover. Garmin told me that it would cost $50 just for that piece of rubber! The Legend was off warranty but I still thought $50 for that piece of rubber was ridiculous. It still isn't fixed. I just can't bring myself to spend $50 for that piece of rubber. Sure wish I could buy a broken eTrex from someone and just take the rubber cover off of it. I'd call them again (be sure to call and not use email). Some cs reps are more generous than others.

I don't think anyone other than sandisk makes microSD cards, esp in the 2gig size, so I wouldn't worry that you got a fake. And since the 2gig cards are so new I wouldn't worry about it being used either.

I didn't get the popup, and I did go through the utilities -> unlock... There is now an unlock code in that section, but they are still "locked"... In the unlock section, do you have to complete the registration portion, or just enter the 25 digit code? You just need the 25 character key. Since you can see the map detail in mapsource that means that you typed in a valid key, just not a key that is tied with your gps. Maybe the key you got was for a unit that was replaced during an RMA? You'll need to contact Garmin to straighten things out.

Here are some examples: http://cgpsmapper.com/en/win.htm

If a feature doesn't have a name, then when you put the cursor on it it will show the name of the type. So for instance if you have a trail without a name and you make it the type of a St/Province Boundary you will see the name "St/Province Boundary" or something similiar. You can have more versitility by using a TYP file. This is a file that can be generated by cgpsmapper, the file is then added to the registry for the product and will instruct MapSource and your GPS how to display different types. Doing this you can change the style of the lines (solid, dashed, etc.) and the color.

Yes, it will work.

http://rwsmaps.griffel.se/files/imgStats.exe To run the program open a command window and run the program giving it the directory of the maps you stats on, for example: imgStats "c:\garmin\maps\city navigator north america v8" The results will flash by on the screen and will also go to imgStats.log in the same directory where the imgStats.exe is located. imgStats.log will be rewritten each time you run the program so if you want to save the results then rename it to something else. Rich

It is very doubtful that it will be replaced. As far as they are concerned CN is the replacement. How can the CN NA make up for the Metroguide Canada? MG Canada has 221 Maps while CN NA has only like 21 maps segments for Canada ?? I really wish I can know how many POI do they have for Canada in the CN NA v8? cuz the Metroguide Canada v4 has 750,000 POIs # of POI's Miles of roads Canada Metroguide v4 748,913 878,607 Canada Topo v2 296,782 878,166 City Navigator North America v8 420,575 788,937 The numbers for City Navigator North America are just for the 25 maps that cover Canada. The POI's for Canada Topo v2 aren't restaurants, services, etc. as in the Metroguide and City Navigator maps, but are land features, water features, manmade features, camping and picnic areas, etc. Thanks for the info...btw where did you get that fact? still MG Canada has more POIs than CN NA v8 I wrote a program that reads the .img files and gathers the stats.

It is very doubtful that it will be replaced. As far as they are concerned CN is the replacement. How can the CN NA make up for the Metroguide Canada? MG Canada has 221 Maps while CN NA has only like 21 maps segments for Canada ?? I really wish I can know how many POI do they have for Canada in the CN NA v8? cuz the Metroguide Canada v4 has 750,000 POIs # of POI's Miles of roads Canada Metroguide v4 748,913 878,607 Canada Topo v2 296,782 878,166 City Navigator North America v8 420,575 788,937 The numbers for City Navigator North America are just for the 25 maps that cover Canada. The POI's for Canada Topo v2 aren't restaurants, services, etc. as in the Metroguide and City Navigator maps, but are land features, water features, manmade features, camping and picnic areas, etc.

You are correct! thanks for replying! very good work mr detective! really appreciated it! No problem, glad I could help. Rich http://rwsmaps.griffel.se/

The most common cause of this error is loading a homemade map where the .tdb file for the map isn't up to date. To be a map "product" you need at least three files, an overview .img file, a .tdb file, and at least one detailed .img file. The .tdb file contains all a list of the .img files that make up the product as well as the file sizes for the .img files. If the map author updated some detail .img files but forgot to update the .tdb file, then it causes the error you are seeing. If you aren't loading any homemade maps, then it's posiable that an .img file or .tdb file has been corrupted. See if you can norrow down which map segment you have selected is causing the problem.

The difference between the two is 1.4%, v8 has 1.4% more poi's than v7 and 1.4% more roads than v7. See this post for the details: http://forums.Groundspeak.com/GC/index.php...=141425&hl= As to if it's worth the upgrade or not depends on how much of the 1.4% difference is in the areas you drive.

Cornix Free map: http://rwsmaps.griffel.se/

Some more info: # of POI's Miles of roads Canada Metroguide v4 748,913 878,607 Canada Topo v2 296,782 878,166 City Navigator North America v8 420,575 788,937 The numbers for City Navigator North America are just for the 25 maps that cover Canada. The POI's for Canada Topo v2 aren't restaurants, services, etc. as in the Metroguide and City Navigator maps, but are land features, water features, manmade features, camping and picnic areas, etc.

http://rwsmaps.griffel.se/

Other than being able to load all of City Navigator North America on a 1Gig card there is no advantage for using the NT version of the product. And even that isn't a big advantage, 2Gig cards are out now and will be dirt cheap soon enough. Some have said that map redraw is slower when using the NT version. Another disadvantage of using the NT version is if you pick up an older cheap gps for your son/daughter/wife/significant other so they don't keep stealing your gps is that you wouldn't be able to use your 2nd free unlock code for that older unit.

MapSource is bundled with map products, but it is independent of them, so either of you can upgrade mapsource (download the latest version from Garmin's website) to get the newer features.

The numbers are interesting (well, to me anyway), but there's only so much you can tell from them. If you remove POI's and roads that no longer exist the numbers go down, but the map quality goes up.

The number of POI's has increased 1.4% from 5,354,417 to 5,428,786 (still short of the "Nearly 6 million" that Garmin advertises in my opinion). Total miles of roads has also increased 1.4% from 6,034,103 miles to 6,118,614 miles. All the nitty gritty details follow: City Navigator City Select City Select City Select North America North America North America North America v8 v7 v6 v5 Points: Type Description Count Count Count Count 0x0200 City (5-10M) 1 1 1 1 0x0300 City (2-5M) 3 3 3 3 0x0400 City (1-2M) 7 7 7 7 0x0500 City (0.5-1M) 27 27 27 27 0x0600 City (200-500K) 73 71 70 69 0x0700 City (100-200K) 186 179 182 180 0x0800 City (50-100K) 473 451 447 437 0x0900 City (20-50K) 1364 1228 1244 1213 0x0a00 Town (10-20K) 1834 1592 1621 1541 0x0b00 Town (5-10K) 2735 2310 2357 2171 0x0c00 Town (2-5K) 23028 20751 20743 17744 0x0d00 Town (1-2K) 109195 75584 76926 71410 ------ ------ ------ ------ Total Cities 138926 102204 103628 94803 0x2800 Region, Small (No Point) 5910 5586 5026 3943 0x2a00 Food & Drink 83390 114119 118648 102730 0x2a01 Food & Drink, American 57587 47437 69655 69880 0x2a02 Food & Drink, Asian 15978 13617 16583 15380 0x2a03 Food & Drink, Barbeque 7808 7680 9476 9002 0x2a04 Food & Drink, Chinese 31414 29485 36455 34674 0x2a05 Food & Drink, Deli/Bakery 43523 41564 45911 42418 0x2a06 Food & Drink, International 15091 10429 18868 18327 0x2a07 Food & Drink, Fast Food 78889 77821 68276 65245 0x2a08 Food & Drink, Italian 63956 65061 78270 74211 0x2a09 Food & Drink, Mexican 25072 22632 30597 29063 0x2a0a Food & Drink, Pizza 0 0 139 150 0x2a0b Food & Drink, Seafood 9817 9577 12601 12068 0x2a0c Food & Drink, Steak/Grill 21650 22474 21160 19202 0x2a0d Food & Drink, Bagel/Doughnut 0 0 5 13 0x2a0e Food & Drink, Cafe/Diner 11665 0 110 98 0x2a0f Food & Drink, French 4348 4636 6088 5560 0x2a10 Food & Drink, German 565 647 809 769 0x2a11 Food & Drink, British Isles 2500 2719 1248 1058 0x2a12 Food & Drink, Specialty 87672 91691 148605 135525 ------ ------ ------ ------ Total Restaurants 560925 561589 683504 635373 0x2b00 Lodging 9 0 14 1 0x2b01 Lodging, Hotel/Motel 69557 70123 75660 70242 0x2b02 Lodging, Bed & Breakfast/Inn 0 12008 473 454 0x2b03 Lodging, Campground/RV Park 11920 0 11822 10253 0x2b04 Lodging, Resort 0 0 16 117 ------ ------ ------ ------ Total Lodging 81486 82131 87985 81067 0x2c00 Attraction 136 1 0 0 0x2c01 Recreation, Amusement/Theme Park 996 922 7184 6285 0x2c02 Attraction, Museum/Historical 12009 11669 11960 10893 0x2c03 Community, Library 13746 14085 17545 16605 0x2c04 Attraction, Landmark 15298 15166 11597 10124 0x2c05 Community, School 106322 104051 165185 155485 0x2c06 Attraction, Park/Garden 52362 49751 49507 45318 0x2c07 Attraction, Zoo/Aquarium 0 0 2 0 0x2c08 Recreation, Arena/Track 2261 2163 3465 3269 0x2c09 Attraction, Hall/Auditorium 1130 1113 5903 5220 0x2c0a Attraction, Winery 1355 1208 1162 1031 0x2c0b Community, Place of Worship 243170 243757 325378 309157 ------ ------ ------ ------ Total Attractions 448785 443886 598888 563387 0x2d00 Entertainment 2 0 0 0 0x2d01 Entertainment, Live Theater 3958 3748 7016 6567 0x2d02 Entertainment, Bar/Nightclub 75569 75859 70748 62355 0x2d03 Entertainment, Cinema 3282 5441 7525 7094 0x2d04 Entertainment, Casino 600 555 502 451 0x2d05 Entertainment, Golf Course 18406 12406 10412 9438 0x2d06 Recreation, Skiing Center/Resort 575 569 728 599 0x2d07 Entertainment, Bowling 5065 5071 6120 5581 0x2d09 Entertainment, Swimming Pool 0 0 15 17 0x2d0a Entertainment, Sports/Fitness Center 61048 60946 58912 53398 0x2d0b Entertainment, Sport Airport 0 0 0 1 ------ ------ ------ ------ Total Entertainment 168505 164595 161978 145501 0x2e00 Shopping 95 4 265 0 0x2e01 Shopping, Department Store 8584 8639 30357 28113 0x2e02 Shopping, Grocery Store 48061 47892 114584 103361 0x2e03 Shopping, General Merchandise 67979 68100 36354 32803 0x2e04 Shopping Center 2794 2762 6338 6026 0x2e05 Shopping, Pharmacy 32950 41426 53443 48631 0x2e06 Shopping, Convenience Store 65008 65277 94241 82210 0x2e07 Shopping, Apparel 295218 295457 207813 187001 0x2e08 Shopping, Home and Garden 109629 109549 212076 190407 0x2e09 Shopping, Home Furnishings 222879 223198 193848 174027 0x2e0a Shopping, Specialty Retail 541634 557929 615085 556782 0x2e0b Shopping, Computer/Software 27083 27140 100868 92851 ------ ------ ------ ------ Total Shopping 1421914 1447373 1665272 1502212 0x2f00 Service 89197 80883 132845 120013 0x2f01 Service, Auto Fuel 102024 75672 71214 69081 0x2f02 Service, Auto Rental 14554 7615 6954 6429 0x2f03 Service, Auto Repair 239516 232341 265957 251326 0x2f04 Service, Air Transportation 4366 4151 1537 1114 0x2f05 Service, Post Office 22879 23076 18018 17517 0x2f06 Service, Bank/ATM 218131 213027 200349 183560 0x2f07 Service, Dealer/Auto Parts 115115 115634 133975 111816 0x2f08 Service, Ground Transportation 3954 3406 3271 3003 0x2f09 Service, Marina/Boat Repair 15277 15139 25854 23731 0x2f0a Service, Wrecker 19792 19843 4693 3845 0x2f0b Service, Parking 9663 9354 12257 11975 0x2f0c Service, Rest Area/Information 5012 4887 6412 6021 0x2f0d Service, Auto Club 637 626 651 597 0x2f0e Service, Car Wash 21792 21825 34738 31328 0x2f0f Service, Garmin Dealer 1222 668 668 655 0x2f10 Service, Personal 628135 629193 796671 742908 0x2f11 Service, Business 443641 444925 411275 366620 0x2f12 Service, Communication 91881 91948 76716 70436 0x2f13 Service, Repair 174364 174381 119730 105670 0x2f14 Service, Social 254063 255164 198828 179401 0x2f15 Service, Public Utility 37493 37652 29308 26933 0x2f16 Service, Truck Stop 738 745 1777 1257 0x2f17 Service, Transit Service 23410 23448 44193 42256 ------ ------ ------ ------ Total Services 2536856 2485603 2597891 2377492 0x3000 Emergency/Government 0 0 975 0 0x3001 Community, Police Station 7123 6646 6103 8665 0x3002 Hospital 5226 3218 2561 2415 0x3003 Community, City Hall 7098 6558 5721 5181 0x3004 Community, Court House 5501 5351 14295 13210 0x3005 Community, Community Center 1713 1554 1323 1109 0x3006 Community, Border Crossing 249 245 202 146 0x3007 Goverentment, Office 26108 25385 72366 66698 0x3008 Fire Department 12461 12493 17388 16917 ------ ------ ------ ------ Total Emergency/Government 65479 61450 120934 114341 0x5901 Airport, Large 0 0 7 9 0x5902 Airport, Medium 0 0 42 47 0x5903 Airport, Small 0 0 509 537 ------ ------ ------ ------ Total Airports 0 0 558 593 ------ ------ ------ ------ Grand Total 5428786 5354417 6025664 5518712 Polylines: Type Description Count Distance Count Distance Count Distance Count Distance 0x01 Major Highway 92001 120850.7 90697 120447.2 86175 119939.9 84714 120260.6 0x02 Principal Highway 110721 121596.9 91761 121611.9 87835 121665.4 76162 105385.0 0x03 Other Highway 262991 220208.7 231205 220916.8 223956 220703.6 205062 195676.1 0x04 Arterial Road 0 0.0 0 0.0 490 612.6 685 860.4 0x05 Collector Road 771167 558400.4 710967 563018.1 690232 560188.9 646779 520228.4 0x06 Residential Street 9723616 4206114.5 9775338 4566608.1 9016486 4268736.2 7611471 3311707.0 0x07 Alley/Private Road 410253 92593.2 386958 86141.7 359909 76896.1 326912 67803.2 0x08 Highway Ramp, Low speed 0 0.0 0 0.0 75 17.6 74 17.6 0x09 Highway Ramp, High speed 168395 36332.0 165577 35755.1 161894 34756.3 156870 33487.8 0x0a Unpaved Road 732407 749758.5 384670 307280.4 337795 278159.0 261895 231041.1 9122 382.0 0x14 Railroad 82121 153485.1 82645 153922.9 79262 153748.4 75922 152327.3 0x16 Trail 0 0.0 0 0.0 3132 11581.7 3222 11747.6 0x18 Stream 35029 100201.1 31071 92048.1 39872 176048.8 37749 166765.9 0x1b Ferry 1113 12378.0 1086 12323.9 682 3849.1 403 1212.1 0x1c State/Province Border 20585 55837.0 8100 47953.6 7677 44297.1 16172 59317.3 0x1e International Border 769 9856.1 931 12283.7 1983 12345.8 784 9920.6 0x1f River 1556 3494.2 1308 2918.0 1182 2488.3 1017 1984.7 ------ -------- ------ -------- ------ -------- ------ -------- Grand Total 12421846 6441487.5 11962314 6343229.0 11098637 6086035.0 9505893 4989742.5 Summary: Roads 12281786 6118614.5 11838259 6034103.0 10965529 5685524.5 9371027 4587679.0 Political Boundries 21354 65693.1 9031 60237.3 9660 56642.9 16956 69238.0 Other 118706 257180.4 115024 248889.0 123448 343867.3 117910 332825.5 Polygons: Type Description Count Area Count Area Count Area Count Area 0x03 Small Urban Area 42547 279549.3 41400 268340.3 38384 259309.7 36813 256975.5 0x04 Military Base 1318 41687.2 1326 41456.2 1039 35379.4 977 35464.4 0x07 Airport 4274 2326.2 4374 2319.3 1852 1616.7 1100 1306.9 0x08 Shopping Center 1919 169.1 1934 166.5 1751 155.7 1673 148.2 0x0a University/College 2358 500.7 2353 479.0 1514 493.4 1241 385.9 0x0b Hospital 2236 106.6 2547 133.9 1919 99.0 1666 85.0 0x0c Industrial Complex 613 401.2 617 391.3 578 375.2 552 362.8 0x0d Reservation 3668 116139.7 3529 116081.3 2844 114577.3 1483 100815.6 0x0e Airport Runway 4860 298.6 4955 298.7 2326 196.6 1639 162.7 0x13 Manmade Area 1562 4.7 1546 4.6 0 0.0 0 0.0 0x14 National Park 3006 210720.5 2127 213541.8 1927 207996.6 1706 123392.9 0x16 National Park 0 0.0 0 0.0 1109 50654.8 1107 50613.9 0x17 City Park 49643 4139.6 48401 4076.3 38770 3646.6 34224 3267.0 0x18 Golf Course 17566 4420.6 14844 3587.7 9549 2495.0 7572 1961.9 0x19 Sports Complex 827 93.9 835 91.4 588 74.6 496 65.3 0x1a Cemetary 11654 576.3 11535 569.9 7018 384.5 5631 323.8 0x1e State Park 5462 33463.6 5292 26602.7 4547 18141.4 4587 16697.2 0x28 Ocean 6915 1362298.1 9231 1555802.0 9615 1467607.8 6290 460747.8 0x3c Large Lake 2766 33045.8 2561 32002.1 1970 27930.9 1097 5129.6 0x3d Large Lake 7332 43331.4 8826 43869.1 5926 33319.3 5848 12746.1 0x3e Medium Lake 8173 30039.0 7866 26831.5 7277 26050.4 6690 10482.4 0x3f Medium Lake 5714 16542.5 5574 16923.0 5092 15967.1 3717 5778.7 0x40 Small Lake 12149 16489.5 10302 12697.3 8748 11921.0 8463 8101.5 0x41 Small Lake 100744 5695.6 93158 5301.0 86930 5484.1 75055 5396.7 0x42 Major Lake 2921 151394.2 2084 144324.9 4591 157591.9 1420 89499.2 0x43 Major Lake 937 20147.0 711 17786.9 1809 17548.3 105 3836.5 0x44 Large Lake 1084 18246.0 1150 20589.6 1602 18002.9 561 4906.8 0x46 Major River 0 0.0 0 0.0 1156 3994.1 1152 3991.6 0x47 Large River 11 703.3 0 0.0 209 176.8 213 176.9 0x48 Medium River 30179 30517.2 26495 30398.7 22007 25690.1 19103 11456.8 0x49 Small River 4405 12711.5 4171 12623.8 3947 12457.5 3671 339.9 0x4b Background 6148 8593892.8 4295 8583482.6 4286 8538571.8 2418 4590984.4 ------ -------- ------ -------- ------ -------- ------ -------- Grand Total 342991 11029652.0 324039 11180773.0 280880 11057911.0 238270 5805603.5 Summary: Urban Areas 42547 279549.3 41400 268340.3 38384 259309.7 36813 256975.5 Manmade Areas 22808 161634.1 23181 161330.8 13823 152893.3 10331 138731.4 Parks 88158 253414.5 83034 248469.8 63508 283393.4 55323 196322.0 Lakes/Rivers 176415 378863.1 162898 363347.8 151264 356134.5 127095 161842.7 Oceans/Seas 6915 1362298.1 9231 1555802.0 9615 1467607.8 6290 460747.8 Other 6148 8593893.0 4295 8583483.0 4286 8538572.0 2418 4590984.5

You can also create a .typ definitions file using cgpsmapper to change how any feature (including the background) is displayed in mapsource and on the 60csx.