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That's a no then... Just more untruths being spread for no good reason.

Again, comparing apples to oranges. I take it you're not going to answer my question? You stated it's not living up to it's description, I don't think that's a fair statement to make at all, especially if someone is interested in the device and reads that. It couldn't be farther from the truth.

Thanks for clearing that up... makes sense now that you explained it. I'm not familiar with field work or serious hiking, so that part is new to me.

You're right, you didn't, toddm did.

Here we go again... 1) poor battery performance Define poor? I've gone over 10 hours with my backlight on. 2) dim screen Alas, a valid concern in certain circumstances... but you can't have both a super bright screen AND long battery life, pick one or do what Garmin did and compromise. 3) less reception under heavy cover I guess I haven't seen this, but I think any device will suffer 'less' when under poor conditions. I get a good signal in the basement of my house, I can't imagine what worse conditions may lie outside. Have you experienced this? 4) can't display multiple tracks Ok? 5) no wavepoint averging Nope, did they say it would? 6) no back tracking What is your definition? I can see tracks and follow them back. 7) search fron curser loacation on map Valid concern, but there is a workaround. 8) declutter Ok 9)proximity alarms Ok Not sure but is this your 'answer' to my question? Because I don't recall any of this being in the 'description' of what it says it CAN do.

Seriously lacking for navigation? How so? It gets me within 15 feet 90% of the time, and I can see the track on the map to follow. Side note: I loaded City Navigator on it... wow, in vehicle navigation is awesome! Re-routing is fast and accurate, detour functionality, very impressed. I would like to know more about the real issues though... so if I'm misunderstanding something please enlighten me with details.

You didn't answer my question... you stated it's not living up to it's description, what doesn't it do that is says it will? By same category, do you mean 'Mapping Handhelds'? On the Trail/Mapping Handhelds https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?cID=145 Whoa, how dare they put the Colorado in that list. To answer yours: How did you ever get the idea it was developed mainly for geocaching and fitness Let's see... it has a separate Geocaching option, ability to upload fitness data, connect to 2 different fitness devices (cadence sensor and heart rate monitor) simultaneously, and display that data on the main page if you wish. It's my opinion on what it was aimed at, that's why I prefaced the comment with 'To me'. I never said Garmin developed it that way... but they sure could have.

What in the world are you talking about? It does everything they say it will in that paragraph... This rugged / check advanced handheld / check packed with detailed topographic maps / check not to mention 3-D map view / check high-sensitivity receiver / check barometric altimeter / check electronic compass / check SD card slot / check picture viewer / check color display / check Exchange tracks, waypoints, routes and geocaches wirelessly between similar units / check check check check What am I missing here that it isn't living up to? On top of that list you can add the ability to load the entire US and Canada City Navigator maps on the device without having to use an SD card... I know this is getting a tad off topic, agree or disagree I think I've made my point...

Is the Colorado meant to compete with or replace the 60CSx, I don't think so. To me it's clearly aimed at fitness and geocaching. Remember, the Colorado can do many things the 60CSx simply cannot. I think it would be best if we tried to keep them separate and face the fact that they both have their place and are both strong players in different arenas. The Colorado offers wireless data transfer, wireless connectivity to a bicycle cadence censor as well as heart rate monitor, superior geocaching functions that nobody else can come close to, and a display that's above and beyond any GPS I've used. Is there room for improvement? Of course there is, and I have no doubt Garmin's development team is all over it. To be upset that the Colorado isn't the 60CSx with a new look and features just doesn't make sense to me, and that's what I keep reading over and over again. Personally, I look forward to upcoming firmware releases because I'm already 95% satisfied with everything about this device. Then again, I bought it for what I believe it was designed for - not what I hoped it would become.

Not a clue, which is why I started my own food analogy that (to me) actually does make sense

Real world... I'd go to the store quick and pick up a replacement. Not the fancy stuff either, something in the middle if they had it, otherwise no name is just fine. Cache world, I'd serve it up - if they don't like it there's a lot more to choose from than just mine.

Just depends if Text to Speech is necessary... In 300 feet, turn right onto Washington Avenue. versus In 300 feet, turn right. (Which in the city, might not mean much). Having said that, I normally had alerts turned off anyway

I stated my honest opinion, none of the above. If I knew nobody liked the hot I wouldn't serve it, especially without telling them. If I was the host, I also wouldn't ditch my party to find a replacement... it's not that important. The analogy just doesn't work, unless there's a twist to the plot you're saving for ammo later on.

Garmin nüvi 350 (no Bluetooth) or 360 (with Bluetooth) would be a good choice, or the wider screen 660 (I've had all 3, which is why I can recommend any of them with confidence, I'll also throw the 650 in there, since it's almost identical to the 660 but without Bluetooth.)

I was the first to respond

You get an invitation to a party, on that invitation it states there will be potato chips available in 4oz bags. You prefer 8oz bags but go anyway, only to find they are generic - not brand name. It was the size advertised, but maybe not up to your standards. Do you complain or simply smile and say thank you? A few weeks go by and you get yet another invitation, same deal... You still prefer 8oz bags and decide not to go because of your experience last time. Turns out this party had brand name chips and you're missing out. Do you start going to these parties again and take your chances or skip them?

Grab another beer and not worry about it.

Did you know that 30% of all statistics are made up on the spot? Let's say I place a cache, Lock & Lock style, small, painted green with Krylon Fusion paint for plastic, stuck under a few decent size rocks at the end of a dead end road - maybe 5 feet off the gravel. Cache includes a log, pencil (sharpened) and a few small dollar store toys. Lame or Not Lame? (Great idea for a website, no?) 10% say it's great, thank you. 50% just log it (TNLN TFTC). 10% hate it, too easy. 5% are DNF entries. 25% write a short note, neither like or dislike it. The 10% that claimed they hate it will complain about it on a forum, leaving the other 85% (the silent majority). Is there a point to this little example? No, I just got tired of reading about raw hamburger. And no, my math isn't wrong - remember 5% haven't found it yet.

Lame Cache Haters Reaction After Finding... A LAME CACHE!

2 One to hide a cache and one to find it, then switch.

If the song fits...

Sorry.. I thought that's what the forums were for

Yes.

You take the good. You take the bad. You take them both and then you have the facts of life. The facts of life.