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  1. Are you talking about wilderness in general, as in an uninhabited area? Or are you talking about a designated wilderness area?

     

    My favorite places to Geocache are in the forest, and or woods. However, most areas designated as wilderness have rules that ban Geocaching. You would need to check with the local land managers of the area your interested in caching in, to know if you can or can't cache there.

     

    To be clear, I am talking about designated wilderness areas. I am trying to get a feel for how geocachers in this area feel about the existence or nonexistence of restrictions in these areas. the rattlesnake for example, are there any cache's in there?

    No, you may not geocache on federally designated Wilderness.

     

    Does this count? National Forest

     

    No. A federal wilderness designation is different than a nation forest. But federally designated wilderness areas are in national forests.

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    That's just it. The kid that has the name in the OP could be the one that is on his way to microwaving cats and such. Many goofy and sick people start out doing little things like seeing how far they can go with un-family friendly words. The name he chose shows you that he has no respect for himself, much less anyone else.

     

     

    Wow. This is the comment of the day. Glad so many perfect kids exist that never uttered a bad word, did a questionable thing, etc. Else we would just have maniacs running around.

     

    It all starts with a questionable caching name I guess.

  3. Expecting some one to have the same reaction to words is expecting them to live by your moral code.

    If it's a moral code worth having, then it's one worth expecting of everyone. Besides, what's the virtue in having a double standard, anyway?

     

    It is funny how it is a "right" when it is something a person are for, but an "entitlement" when it is something a person is against.

     

    A right is something a person should be permitted to do, such as the right to pursue happiness, or, in your example, guns. Entitlement is what people expect others to do for them, such as healthcare. For example, you have a right to form your own opinion, but you are not entitled to having anyone give a rip about it.

     

    people also have right to free speech - not to free speech "when we agree with what is being said"

     

    Sad that with every other issue going on in this country today - kids killing themselves over being bullied, people microwaving cats and posting videos of it, disastrous weather in colorado - we are worried about a cacher name in a log that nobody would have known about if it hadn't been brought up on here.

  4. Just contact and report to a Groundspeak support person and they'll take care of it.

     

    I am offended by your username so I just contacted Groundspeak about it.

     

    When we get to the point of turning in our neighbors because we're offended by something, it is stinking pathetic. Why don't you just go cache and worry about yourself.

     

    I am adult and the name brought up by the OP is offensive to me. I have a child who is learning to read and write as we speak. No, i do not want her seeing that offensive name and trying to sound it out.

     

    This is one of the many problems our world has these days, lack of respect for fellow human beings. We're free to do and say whatever we want. Unfortunately, many people take that right too far. They purposely choose to say and do things that offend and hurt other people. Imo, this lack of respect towards others only strengthens for most as they get older. I think it is pathetic that there are so many people out there who have the attitude that the world is their free for all. They live for today because they are entitled and could care less what our world is becoming. :mad:

     

    Kinda like people with guns in america, right? Or religion.

     

    It is funny how it is a "right" when it is something a person are for, but an "entitlement" when it is something a person is against.

     

    Try this - your kid is opening the pandoras box to the world with reading, sooner or later the kid is bound to come across questionable material. How long do you think you can or even should shield her from it? Rather, instead of pretending it doesn't exist, teach her what it means, that it is not appropriate in our culture and you demystify the mystique. Then let it go

     

    We only give more power and meaning to these words and to the people who use them by paying this much attention to them. Again, before this post, nobody knew of this guy. And I am willing to bet had it not been mentioned, nobody would have ever heard of him.

  5. Not bothering you but enough of an issue to bring up publicly?

     

    I see these forums as a place to discuss points of interest related to geocaching. It doesn't have to be an issue. I found this interesting, and I now know the answer. I don't think I would have found it otherwise. I did search the Knowledge Book/Help center for "username" but didn't find the section which Keystone pointed out.

     

    first, it is sad somone has to start off a thread disclaiming they dont mean angst, yet people respond to it pushing it down that road anyway. the op is correct this is supposed to be a place to have discussions, but it often seems to devolve into "disgree with me, be attacked" ande then people follow you around taunting you.

  6. There are only a handful of Earthcache reviewers in the US, that is normally enough to easily handle the amount coming in. With others that can help out as needed.

     

    However in the last few weeks a number are on vacation, and others planning for and speaking at the Mega Event in Utah. We had 2/3rd of the reviewers that were at the event that live in/review for the US. Along with some of the Reviewers from outside the US (that may have backed us up). A few of us that were planning for, and/or speaking at the event fell further behind. We are playing catch up now. I am digging through the ones closest to being published first, and emails. I am sure the others are doing the same.

     

    Thank you.

  7. You know, Pup Patrol was trying to help you out with his post. Acting less like a jerk and more appreciative tends to yield better results.

     

    Again, a beacon of support and righteousness. It is like i have to spell everything out on here - i was referring to Log Dawg,

     

    If you don't have anything of value to add to this, please disengage and quit following me around the forums. Thank you.

     

    I rest my case.

     

    I already did offer you sound advice about the publishing of Earthcaches. You ignoring it does not constitute not adding anything of value. Furthermore, don't accuse people of unfounded actions. I watch the Earthcache forums for new topics, so that is why this one came to my attention. Anything more sinister is just a figment of your imagination.

     

    That ignore feature is about as useful as a doorknob on a brick wall lol.

     

    I know it takes two but it just seems it is the same people post after post after post that taunt and harass me. And as soon as I defend myself I have forum moderators all over me. I a fed up and sick and tired of it so I will simply report it every time it happens.

     

    Sadly there is no real block feature like one has on the social networks. So instead, I have to continue to put up with the multitude os taunts in these forums. Don't you feel proud of yourself for being one that ALWAYS seems to be in the mix of people who do so?

     

    Yes, because you never bring anything upon yourself. :rolleyes:

     

    Nope. I am just done with it. I will report it every time from now on. Now I asked you to disengage once already. I am asking you again.

     

    There is an ignore user option.

     

    It takes more then one person to engage in a conversation...

     

    That ignore feature is about as useful as a doorknob on a brick wall.

     

    It is just that post after post after post I make it is the same people who are taunting and harassing me. And then as soon as I defend myself, I get jumped on by forums moderators. I am fed up with it. I will just report it every time, period.

     

    And this isn't just me. These forums have a widely know reputation of being full of toxicity, mean spirited arrogance that most cachers stay away from. I don't feel I should be scared away or anyone else should by the fear of dealing with people like arthur&trillian. Or the subtly of condescending posts such as citing guidelines I was already VERY well aware of (and pup patrol has taunted me before, so no, he wasn't being helpful).

     

    Why is it that people cannot post a question of even the slightest constructive criticism of a process? Why is it such a crime on here to be agitated that someone put the work into finding a good place, studying it, developing the material for the earthcache and have to sit waiting an waiting and waiting for it to be published and NOT say anything about it because they fear either someone is going to rip their life apart in the forums or have some retaliation from a moderator or a reviewer for daring question them? Seriously, does nobody else see this as a problem?

  8. I am posting for everyone to see. No scandal unless there is one...but I just wanted to know more about geocaching. If someone is not comfortable speaking with me, they don't have to. I'm being transparent here

     

    If you are writing a paper, you really should post your questions here to get different opinions (trust me, the people in these forums will have wildly varying opinions). I think in asking Brian you will get a very well thought and experienced set of answers. I also think in posting the questions you will get some other insights for various geographic areas that may sneak into political views regarding wilderness usage.

     

    You hav to excuse us here - many in these forums can be quite pointed and those of us who post often in here have developed a defensive style because, to be perfectly blunt and honest, this isn't a nice place. But, you haven't been clear on what it is you really want, so it seems fishy.

     

    So please just ask what you want to ask and take the answers (or don't) for what they are worth (if anything) - again YMMV (your milage may vary).

    I'm still unsure if they are interested in caches placed in natural areas that are difficult to get to, caches place in designated wilderness ares with permission, caches placed in designated wilderness areas without explicit permission or just rural caching.

     

    Same here, which is why a few of us are asking the OP to clarify what their questions are.

  9. You know, Pup Patrol was trying to help you out with his post. Acting less like a jerk and more appreciative tends to yield better results.

     

    Again, a beacon of support and righteousness. It is like i have to spell everything out on here - i was referring to Log Dawg,

     

    If you don't have anything of value to add to this, please disengage and quit following me around the forums. Thank you.

     

    I rest my case.

     

    I already did offer you sound advice about the publishing of Earthcaches. You ignoring it does not constitute not adding anything of value. Furthermore, don't accuse people of unfounded actions. I watch the Earthcache forums for new topics, so that is why this one came to my attention. Anything more sinister is just a figment of your imagination.

     

    Sadly there is no real block feature like one has on the social networks. So instead, I have to continue to put up with the multitude os taunts in these forums. Don't you feel proud of yourself for being one that ALWAYS seems to be in the mix of people who do so?

     

    Yes, because you never bring anything upon yourself. :rolleyes:

     

    Nope. I am just done with it. I will report it every time from now on. Now I asked you to disengage once already. I am asking you again.

  10. You know, Pup Patrol was trying to help you out with his post. Acting less like a jerk and more appreciative tends to yield better results.

     

    Again, a beacon of support and righteousness. It is like i have to spell everything out on here - i was referring to Log Dawg,

     

    If you don't have anything of value to add to this, please disengage and quit following me around the forums. Thank you.

     

    I rest my case.

     

    I already did offer you sound advice about the publishing of Earthcaches. You ignoring it does not constitute not adding anything of value. Furthermore, don't accuse people of unfounded actions. I watch the Earthcache forums for new topics, so that is why this one came to my attention. Anything more sinister is just a figment of your imagination.

     

    Sadly there is no real block feature like one has on the social networks. So instead, I have to continue to put up with the multitude os taunts in these forums. Don't you feel proud of yourself for being one that ALWAYS seems to be in the mix of people who do so?

  11. I am posting for everyone to see. No scandal unless there is one...but I just wanted to know more about geocaching. If someone is not comfortable speaking with me, they don't have to. I'm being transparent here

     

    If you are writing a paper, you really should post your questions here to get different opinions (trust me, the people in these forums will have wildly varying opinions). I think in asking Brian you will get a very well thought and experienced set of answers. I also think in posting the questions you will get some other insights for various geographic areas that may sneak into political views regarding wilderness usage.

     

    You have to excuse us here - many in these forums can be quite pointed and those of us who post often in here have developed a defensive style because, to be perfectly blunt and honest, this isn't a nice place. But, you haven't been clear on what it is you really want, so it seems fishy.

     

    So please just ask what you want to ask and take the answers (or don't) for what they are worth (if anything) - again YMMV (your milage may vary).

     

    p.s. - please please PLEASE don't let these forums be representative of your opinions of the geocaching community. By and large, the majority of cachers don't bother to even come in here because they feel it is toxic and over opinionated (and yes, I include myself as a contributor to that mix). MOST cacher's while are a touch to majorly OCD, are some of the nicest people I know. ;-) of course, you have to be a bit OCD to find caches anyway!

  12. I have had one earthcache sitting to be reviewed for now over a month and two others for over two weeks. Yes it is taking a lot longer. I did email them and they said the Earthcache event was part of the reason but now it has been way too long to sit there. I had hope one would have been published by Friday since it is close a big event we have going on. Looks like that won't happen.

     

    I am not sure why the event would be that much of a factor. Are there really that many EC's waiting to be reviewed? If Groundspeak needs more volunteers for EC reviews, perhaps they need to recruit. People shouldn't have to wait this long to have an EC published.

  13. Looking at your previous questions. I cannot speak to caching or even hiking in mizzou or montana - but I can offer some insight on what I personally feel about caching (and even hiking) wilderness areas - and its a weak one - it all depends.

     

    Since I have been off trail/back country hiking long before there was geocaching, I have always been very tactful at how I treat and explore wilderness areas. In general, though, wilderness areas are pretty hardy and robust. And even if foot traffic quadrupled in a short period of time, you still couldn't "trample underfoot{ if you will, an area enough to make a noticeable impact. Again that is in general. However, there are areas that, for a variety of reasons either because of their rarity of the flora and the habitat of some fauna, or because of restoration projects, should be off limits not to just caching, but all human activity either seasonally or permanently. Two such examples come into mind on the coast of NC. One area where the loggerhead sea turtles nest and the wild corolla horses of the outerbanks. I am a firm believer these areas mustn't be disturbed. While I understand the desire to visit these places (believe me, it tears me up because this is the kind of exploration i live for) even the most well intentioned of us can have a devastating impact on these very sensitive areas.

     

    that allbeing said, comes back to my original weak answer - it really all depends. As far as caching specifically goes, I think (besides land manager permission) these caches should be placed as to not create much of an impact on the area they are placed (even if it is hardy). And they should not be anything that is going to require the flora to be too badly disturbed. As well, they should be "just thrown" in any old spot "just because" - or be micros or whibangs ziptied or small gauge wired tied onto a tree limb.

  14. That's a good question. My HYPOTHESIS would be that land managers didn't know about the log book, or perhaps rules were more lax 20 years ago. I know according to the practices of the USFS here in Montana, caches in wilderness are NOT allowed. However, I'm sure people still geocache in designated wilderness. My question again becomes, has anyone on this forum geocached in wilderness or could they lead me to anyone who has geocached in wilderness? I would prefer Montana cachers but anyone whose geocached in wilderness in the west would also be good to speak with.

     

    Why don't you define "wilderness" for us?

     

    © A wilderness, in contrast with those areas where man and his own works dominate the landscape, is hereby recognized as an area where the earth and its community of life are untrammeled by man, where man himself is a visitor who does not remain. An area of wilderness is further defined to mean in this Act an area of undeveloped Federal land retaining its primeval character and influence, without permanent improvements or human habitation, which is protected and managed so as to preserve its natural conditions and which (1) generally appears to have been affected primarily by the forces of nature, with the imprint of man's work substantially unnoticeable; (2) has outstanding opportunities for solitude or a primitive and unconfined type of recreation; (3) has at least five thousand acres of land or is of sufficient size as to make practicable its preservation and use in an unimpaired condition; and (4) may also contain ecological, geological, or other features of scientific, educational, scenic, or historical value.

     

    quoted from www.wilderness.net using the framework of 1964 wilderness act.

     

    have you geocached in wilderness?

     

    Yes, here. http://www.fs.usda.gov/wps/portal/fsinternet/!ut/p/c4/04_SB8K8xLLM9MSSzPy8xBz9CP0os3gDfxMDT8MwRydLA1cj72BTJw8jAwjQL8h2VAQAzHJMsQ!!/?ss=110811&ttype=recarea&recid=49146&actid=51&navtype=BROWSEBYSUBJECT&position=BROWSEBYSUBJECT&navid=110400000000000&pnavid=110000000000000&pname=Uwharrie+National+Forest+-+Birkhead+Mountains+Wilderness

     

    You can see there are several caches in this general area that are permissible. I.e. the land managers know they are there.

    What else would you like to know specifically?

  15. That's a good question. My HYPOTHESIS would be that land managers didn't know about the log book, or perhaps rules were more lax 20 years ago. I know according to the practices of the USFS here in Montana, caches in wilderness are NOT allowed. However, I'm sure people still geocache in designated wilderness. My question again becomes, has anyone on this forum geocached in wilderness or could they lead me to anyone who has geocached in wilderness? I would prefer Montana cachers but anyone whose geocached in wilderness in the west would also be good to speak with.

     

    Why don't you define "wilderness" for us?

  16. Before people get too far into this talk about right of way you need to check with your state, county, city, township.

    Here in Minnesota the right of way laws are different in each of those areas. Example I live in a township, I own the land on both sides of the road.

    I also own the ditch and the land under the road. The township owns the right of way for the road and utilities. The county owns nothing nor does the state in this.

    The general public does not have right of way to be in the ditch, they must stay on the road. ATV and snowmobile are also prohibited from the ditch.

    Along a county road with county owned right of way it is different. The public is allowed to be in the ditch. But the land owner may be the owner of the ditch that is

    in the right of way. Right of way laws do not give property rights to the owner of the right of way. They only gives limited right of way rights to the county or state.

    I still have ownership of the land under the road and pay property taxes on it. I must allow car travel due to right of way, but may stop anybody from the ditch.

    I generally do not though, when somebody comes and asks to harvest some grapevine or take pictures of plants I say ok.

    but when somebody drove a snowmobile across my drive way I put up a very hard wall. State law prohibits travel in my ditch by ATV and snowmobile.

     

    Bottom line check your laws, don't assume.

     

    or easier - if if you see a guardrail and have a burning desire to put an empty pill bottle in it, go home, watch something like National Treasure and be inspired to hide a cache with more creativity in places that are a little more interesting.

    If geocaching is "the language of location" let's speak it fluently. ;-)

  17. This may be a case of "just because you CAN put a cache there doesnt mean you SHOULD put a cache there" - I will turn and keeping going if I see a cache that seems to be close to someones fence, house, etc. You just never know what kind of person you will encounter. I also try to put myself into their shoes. If I had a house with public property backing up to it, I don't think I would want people lurking out behind it so close, no matter what the reason.

    I find it rather disturbing that Groundspeak is so concerned with being at least 150ft way from railroad tracks creating sort of a "buffer zone" but doesn't extend the same courtesy to private property of home owners.

    Now before anyone goes flaying off the handle commenting or sharing this post with their bestest caching buddies in their little inner circles - i am in no way defending what mr. hot head on the motor cycle did. There is a proper way to handle things. I am just saying we, as cache hiders and finders need to be a little more respectful of people's private property beyond the official parcel lines.

  18. as far as i can see, since the cache has been archived, everyone should stay the heck away from there, let tea party thomas alone in his litterbox standing his ground against all of those boogiemen fox news tell him about and he can wallow in his anger while everyone else moves on.

    lesson learned - if you are going to get threatened over a cache, make it an epic one. not some pillbottle in a gaurdrail. ;)

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