BlueMoth
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Right, how long should I wait for a reply before I push the panic button?
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I posted a note on the page with the actual coordinates. I am not going to disable the cache again unless the reviewer says I must. You can see GZ from the parking, it would be hard to miss it! I am hoping the reviewer will get back to me in a day or so. I feel like I have done all I can to fix this. Thanks for your help.
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The actual coordinates are: N45 34.136 W122 33.565.
They are listed as: N45 34.138 W122 33.716
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Well, I went over to the cache site yesterday and took new coordinates trying to figure out what exactly I did wrong. In my first post I said that the given coordinates put you in a paid parking lot. They didn't, they put you in the free parking for the cache. What put you in the lot (which is actually an employee parking lot) was the coodinates I gave for the free parking. Sheesh. I corrected the parking coordinates in the description and I tried to correct the cache location from N34.138 W33.716 to N34.136 W33.565. That must be over 528 feet because all I got was a "log error". I know the actual cache coordinates are about 1,200 feet from the nearest cache. So there should be no problem changing them. I emailed the reviewer yesterday and the day before, trying to correct my error. No answer yet. I realize that he is busy and has a life and is a volunteer, etc. I don't want to bug him with whining emails saying "fix my mistake". Do you think he will respond within a week? I re-enabled the cache, noting in the description that you have to look to the east to see the cache location. I did this because people are looking for it anyway and don't seem to be having any trouble finding it. Is this correct or should I disable the cache again? Thanks for your advice.
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do an update coordinates log.
Will this change the coordinates in the header? If it just posts them as a note, that is just not an acceptable option.
Yes, you can update the coordinates yourself as long as you're not moving it more than 528 feet. If the new coordinates are more than 528 feet away you'll have to ask the reviewer to make the correction.
Thanks! No the coordinates would only change by about 200 feet or so. The cache is well over 1,000 feet from any other cache so that is not a problem either. I'll zip over to the cache and take new readings, just to make double sure I have everything correct this time.
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do an update coordinates log.
Will this change the coordinates in the header? If it just posts them as a note, that is just not an acceptable option.
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I just had a new cache published. Pretty EZ but interesting find with great free parking nearby. When I typed up the listing I must have transposed some numbers because the given coordinates of the cache now put you in a nearby parking lot across the street. You are supposed to go find a giant boulder in a field. Since the lot is pay to park, and no one is going to find a boulder there, I need to change the coordinates to the correct ones. I can't have people who don't know the area download coordinates, drive to the lot, scratch their heads and pay for something they are not going to find. Posting a note on the cache page simply will not work. I disabled the cache as soon as I realized my mistake, but not before two people found it. If I do not have the option to change the coordinates in the listing header, I feel like I should archive the cache and start over. Will the reviewer let me change things? Geeze, this will teach me to triple check everything before I submit a cache for review.
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To the OP, I read your original posting and for what its worth here are my thoughts about your cache. I think your reviewer is so out of line. I have found: a cache that was in the back garden of a pub (come in and have a drink after you find the cache), a cache that was on the counter of a toy store (come in an buy a toy), a cache in Las Vegas in the window of a drive up wedding chapel, placed there with the blessing of the Nevada tourism commission (or something to that effect) which literally screamed (come to Vegas, get married and gamble in our casinos). All of these caches have agendas. However, I don't feel "pushed" to do any of these things. I chose to seek thes caches out, if I didn't like them, so what? i'll just move on to the net one. Lord help us if we are so pc now to be afraid we might offend someone with our agenda at the Humane Society. I think reviewers need to lighten up a bit when they whine "but its the rules", and then interpret them at whim. I hate that kind of mentality, I have always hated it, so you get my sympathy vote on this one.
I thought it was neat that you would have left treats for the kitty and dog owners to take with them. The cache being placed where it was would not have necessitated any interaction between staff and cachers. Geeze, if you don't like Humane societies, don't go to the cache.
My only quibble, was that it was a bug return for what seems to be your own personal set of TB's. Why was that? Couldn't anyone drop off any TB? I could see encouraging TB's that have a critter theme, but why did you say it was a return for your bugs only?
Anyway, as to scrapping your original idea, I would fight to have it in the lobby. If you are up for the fight that is. Good luck whatever you decide to do.
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I know where your cemetary cache cemetary is. Little white church next to it, right?
I drive by it at least once a week and thought I should place a cache there. ~LOL~ Guess you beat me to it.
Nope, mine is out in Cedar Mill, nothing there but the small cemetery, a huge hedge around the entrance and a small gravel road. I have my eye on another cemetery, but not the one you mean. I think I know the place you are talking about though. Not many people know about it. You should go for it, I would love to find a cache there. I promise to keep my mitts off.
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BM,
Hey Buddy thanks for that hide going after a few more of yours tomorrow (in the day) in Portland I left the Yo Yo for someone else but that was a great container and thanks for placing it.
Happy Caching.
ScubaSonic
Ha, ha, yer welcome. Don't forget to take your glock. See you out in the jungle.
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I carry a Concealed Weapon whenever I go out at night , or in a unfamiliar area when those FTFs come up I don't leave the house without it.
Just last night a FTF popped up in the downtown urban jungle at midnight the Glock was my Cachin buddy
Scubasonic
Ha, ha. How dare you call my neighborhood an urban jungle? Congrats btw.
I don't feel unsafe in this city, ever. I go out walking and caching alone at night all the time. Its being alone in the woods that I sometimes feel a little sketchy, whether it is of the two or four legged critters I cannot say. I never used to feel that way about the forest, since I have lived and hiked hereabouts my whole life. Maybe everything is just too crowded nowadays.
I save the Walther PP for the woods.
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Here in MA, our administrator does not allow cemetery placements w/o permission, regardless of who owns the cemetery. I guess standards differ from state to state.
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Sorry you all have to jump through such hoops to get a cemetery cache placed. Maybe Oregon is more live and let live. In my opinion a PUBLIC cemetery is a PUBLIC place, just like a park or a city green space, a telephone pole or a lamp post. If there is no city or county ordinance or state statute against me placing the cache, I don't see the bd about placing a cache in a publicly owned cemetery. Do you all have to get permission to place a LPC in your city, or a smiley in the knot of a tree in a park? Probably not. I think your admin. need to lighten up.
There are a few caches in and around Portland that are in Private cemeteries. I don't know, but I assume the CO's did not have permission from the cemetery owners to have their caches placed, because, knowing the cemeteries they are in, I could never the fathom the owners giving permission. But I am not going to be the rat that squeals and insists they be taken down. I love cemeteries, and of all the caches I have found in them, public or private, I have been tempted once, only once, to try and have the cache archived. It is in a private cemetery and in such appalling bad taste, I felt revolted and slightly sick to my stomach after I found it. If I had read the cache page and all the comments before I left to look for the string of caches that day, I don't think I ever would have ever sought it out. I will forever feel guilty about taking that smiley.
BTW, my pioneer cemetery cache is fine. I just have to get busy and make another copy of the original cache container.
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Count me in. I will send you a copy of a cache I am creating and a couple if my sig items. Your idea is wonderful.
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Lately In my area we been having a lot of new geocachers and some of them have been hiding new geocach's. I all for new geocaches but this one was just posted about a hour ago and it sort of got me thinking. The thing is in the description it says to get to the cache you have to go through a hole in a fence. Sounds alittle sucpicioces to me by reading that it makes me think the cache is on private propertiy. Another thing Is does the person have excperience to hide 2 caches after only joining geocaching 4 day ago
just my 2 cents what do others think
Well, I hope that margarine container doesn't float away during the spring thaw.
As to the fence thing, it surely is there to keep people from doing exactly what the CO wants them to do, which is duck under and go into the ravine. From the map it looks to be on public property.
It would have to be a pretty good margarine container to get me to do that.
I tried something similar in Nevada, the cache was wedged down under a rock in the water of a natural spring. You had to climb down a steep ravine to access it. No other way around to it. Usually I am a mountain goat, but this time I slipped and went bouncing down onto the rocks. Only got scraped up some, thank god I didn't break my neck. Never did find the cache. Next time I'm in Nevada, I'll bring better boots.
As to the OP's query; maybe after two caches the CO was sick of doing LPCs and decided to create something a bit more challenging. If it were illegal wouldn't the reviewer have caught it? I see no real harm here, except the worry about the margarine tub.
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Kind of agree with the "no official cache" idea. It would just cause too many problems with strange adults wandering aound the halls and grounds where they really have no business to be. It would only take one, just one, weirdo nutjob to make the whole thing come crashing down. No matter how well monitered the school might be, you really don't want to take that chance do you?
Since your wife is the local tech whiz, maybe she could make up an in school page that looks like geocaching.com. The kids could make up their own user names, log on, hide and seek caches, and post logs on their finds. If parents wanted to donate or the school had funds, there could be a supply of GPS for the kids to check out. If not, a map and compass work just as well. Possiblities are endless with the fun the whole school could have.
Public cache, sorry, bad idea.
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I just looked outside and there's a beautiful full moon. If it weren't for a hangup of mine (this is HUGE spider season) I would be out caching right now.
What is your excuse?
A side note. Last night I opened my front door to let my cat out and a 1.5 inch spider came running in with Olympic speed. It survived 5 squish attempts because it was so fast. I ended up catching it and it took 2 flushes to get it to go away.
Ha, ha. I don't like spiders either. Ever seen a moth in a spider's web? I'm not looking to be some arachnid's plat du jour.
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Whatever. maybe the last people didn't take the papers. found beer cans etc today, this afternoon at the site, one at GZ, the cache uncovered, lid ajar and a couple of pieces of swag on the ground. Maybe the transients unrooted everything and used the paper for tp. Glad to be of service. We re-wrote the stories and covered the cache up well. Another day put a new spin on everything
Told ya so....
neener neener
Ha, ha, thanks for helping me get my sense of humor back.
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Whatever. maybe the last people didn't take the papers. found beer cans etc today, this afternoon at the site, one at GZ, the cache uncovered, lid ajar and a couple of pieces of swag on the ground. Maybe the transients unrooted everything and used the paper for tp. Glad to be of service. We re-wrote the stories and covered the cache up well. Another day put a new spin on everything
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Here is the log entry:
The stories inside the cache were cute. One being cuter than the other because it didn't poop out. But we think maybe kryptonite got them. Now they are in SuperHeaven with their SuperAngels having lots of SuperFun.By my reading of that I'm not sure the stories were taken. I guess it can be read different ways. Have you checked to see if they're still there?
Yup, went over this morning and checked after reading their log. We are leaving now to put new stories in the cache. Don't know if I can deal with the drama of confrontation. I just had to vent.
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The gremlins are multiplying thick and fast. Can someone PLEASE delete this thread since my real query is in the second one with the same title?
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I hate it when they steal posts
Me too! Darned gremlins.
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I hate it when they steal posts
Me too! Darned gremlins.
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In July one of my caching buddies and I found a cache called No More Tree GC1FD37. It was in a really cool tree stump and the cache owner asked finders if they had an extra piece of paper to sit and write a story about what happened to the tree and leave it in the cache. It was a beautiful afternoon, so my buddy and I sat down and each wrote out a story about the tree. We appreciated the cache and thought the stories might inspire someone else to take the time instead of just grabbing the smiley, since that is what the owner had asked people to do. The very next finder, who has over a thousand finds and IMO should know better, took the stories out of the cache and bragged about it in their log. I am furious. We didn't leave those stories as swag to be lifted. I feel like I have three options here: Email the finders and demand they return the stories to the cache. Email the owner and ask if he wants to do anything about it (they were meant for him after all). Forget about it and chalk it up to the stupidity of the human race. Since the owner has gotten an email about their find, I am sure he knows what they have done. Its fine if he doesn't care, I just feel like these people should be called out for what they have done. I looked up their profile and see that they live in the burbs, about 10 to 15 miles from the cache site. Any opinions?
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Well, after a nights sleep the swiping of my cache doesn't seem to be such a crisis. Though I could smack myself for not waiting until I was completely alone to place it. The first container didn't have an exterior geocache sticker. Maybe that's why it was taken. I snatched up a small sticker that I was saving for something else and slapped it on the second one as I was running out the door last night. More lumps here for not doing that in the first place. The first container was cool too. I'll have to see about getting another like it.
As to groundkeeper/permission issue: It is a public cemetery owned by the city so I don't need permission. and there is no groundskeeper per se. The city mantaince crew mows the grass whenever.
Maybe I am just cursed by the geo-gods this month. I had just had two previous cache rrequests turned down by the reviewer for being within 500 feet. Mine were not egregious placements. One of them had to do with the geology and history of a certain road that the WPA worked on in the 1940's but it was too close to a stage of a multi I haven't found yet. Oh, man the hiding place I found was sooo cool too. The other one I knew was close but was praying that it was still far enough. No go. Sigh.
Thanks for all the sympathy and support everyone.
What does your geocaching title mean?
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When I first got out of art school, I found a studio and was painting the floor blue. There was a huge brown moth on the floor and I accidently swiped a fully loaded brush over the poor thing. That was in 1995 and I have been BlueMoth ever since.