Mark 42

If people are going to cheat, why would they even bother to join as premium members? It wouldn't be hard to figure out who isn't family, but if their integrity is only worth $30, they probably won't stick with this hobby long anyways, since it is somewhat honor based. Example: People working as a team could split up, find a bunch of caches, sign everyone in the group into each logbook, and claim 50 caches in 24 hours. Or, they could share one ID, and go around pretending to be a singlular person. For now, I will probably sign up for premium, and leave my wife's account as ordinary, or vice versa. I'm not interested in any of the benefits, but feel it'd be justifiable to pay in order to support the organization's efforts and expenses to run things. But if it were only a few dollars more for a joint membership, I might sign us both up. I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people.

quote:Originally posted by Mark 42: quote:Originally posted by Renegade Knight: quote:Originally posted by Tsegi Mike and That is sooo not environmentally friendly. I don't see the envrionmental issue here. Unless you use lead bullets... but up there it really wouldn't matter even if you used lead... it's not like millions of shooters are gonna go there, so the lead you would add is just a drop in the bucket compared to the natural occurrence of lead. But stil, just to keep the "environmentalists" off your back, you better use steel shot instead of bullets. _ I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people. _ I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people.

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quote:Originally posted by Snoogans:A great way to make a sock puppet look legit without spending the extra dough SOMEBODY HAD BETTER HURRY UP AND GRAB THAT SCREEN NAME (Sock Puppet) BEFORE IT'S GONE! I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people.

You know... one where I sign up, and my wife gets added to the annual subscription for an addition $5, plus $2.50 per kid, up to $40 maximum per family. The main diferrence, besides the price, for the family vs. individual memberships for each family member being that the whole family only gets one subscription to the monthly "Geocache!" hard-copy (paper) magazine. I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people.

Well-Adjusted Family? Isn't that an oxymoron? I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people.

I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people.

Thaks Y'all! I appreciate the help. For the most part, I just use the Topo maps (as someone suggested) to get the general idea. But I need to learn to take a bit more salt with the info when I see something like which side of the road the cache is on according to the TopoZone map. I'll give the translator a try too. I may end up really liking it, who knows? I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people.

Treasure of the Sierra Madre? I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people.

It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World. I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people.

I will have to speak to some of my old contacts on the International Space Station to see if I can get in touch with one of the astronauts. It won't be a vacation cache if he places it himself, though he won't be able to check it very often. Hey skycop... if you have a fulsize of your avatar picture, please email me a copy, okay? I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people.

We did a run in Huntsville that was themed "Experimental Genetics". Ever seen a jogger with 4 arms before? There is also a nearly worldwide tradition... it seems way back when, a lady in San Diego forgot her gym bag with her running clothes. She had her running shoes in the car, so she just ran in her work clothes. Everyone thought it was so funny they said "Next week, we should ALL run in a red dress. Thus began the tradition of the annual red Dress run... http://www.rocket****ty.com/hashtrash/reddress.html I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people.

BigBird, Your image didn't load for me. I'm going to attempt an image w/o a border: <a href="http://www.cforc.com/kjv/Ecclesiastes/3.html"><img src="http://www.charles.dasilva.com/zuke/guy_ani.gif" width="66" height="60" border="0"></a> I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people. [This message was edited by Mark 42 on August 11, 2003 at 11:21 AM.]

Email me if you want to slip it into an envelope and mail it to me via USPS, though that may be construed as cheating. If you mail it to me, I'll place it in the next cache I find. Can more than one TB be in the same cache, or do they tend not to get along very well? I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people.

Check this from time to time... they may get some in (it was sold out when I checked today) http://www.flyingjestore.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=ShowItem&item_number=4&product_code=EL259&sku=100 I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people.

quote:Originally posted by BrianSnat:You wouldn't want give the anti-geocaching crowd any more ammo. There's an anti geocaching crowd?

The group in Huntsville has done something that somehow combined Geacaching with Hashing... Here is a link to the Huntsville (Rocket City) group (the **** is a four letter word which sounds like city & the message board auto-censors out): http://rocket****ty.com/contacts You'll probably want to contact Smoking Weiner for more info. For those that don't know what Hashing is: http://www.half-mind.com/who.htm I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people.

Hashing has been around since 1938, and is currently done in virtually every major city in the world, as well as most minor citties in the U.S. http://www.half-mind.com/who.htm If you want to complain about people wasting flour to play the game, you better not keep burning oil to drive to cache locations. I get sick of enviro whackos & other social police running around playing the "I'm so freaking Holy" game. Pennies are cooper, which is damaging to the environment. The number of pennies it would take to lay a hash trail could feed a lot more starving children than the "wasted" flour. There has been occasional anthrax scares, but anyone who knows anything would realize that anthrax in such large quantities is highly unlikely. Some groups have started dying flour different colors... which gets the paranoids off their backs. So, if you have any anthrax powder, die it some bright color before aplication. So far (65 yrs) hashing has caused very few problems (as evidenced by how little known the hobby is). Basically, it's non-competitive. There are no rules. The pack works together to try to catch the hare (the one who lays trail with a 15 min. head start). Short cutting is allowed. A good hare lays trail that is interesting, and keeps the pack together (by creative use of loops which stragglers can shortcut). The FRB's (Front Running Bstrds) mark the checkpoints as they solve the correct direction (a checkpoint is a circle with an X in it, which says "trail will restart within a hundred yards or less, go find it). I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people.

Maybe a few crappy ones will make you better appreciate the good ones. I'd just put "Unremarkable location, easy find" in the log & go to the next one. I think a couple of people misunderstood you to be commenting on the contents of the container. Personally, I couldn't care much less. I didn't even look what was in a couple of them. As long as there's a logbook, I'm happy. I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people.

The group in Huntsville has done something of the sort. Here is a link to the Huntsville (Rocket City) group (the **** is a four letter word which sounds like city & the message board auto-censors out): http://rocket****ty.com/contacts You'll probably want to contact Smoking Weiner for more info. For those that don't know what Hashing is: http://www.half-mind.com/who.htm I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people.

quote:Originally posted by SamLowrey:I think geocachers have gotten complacent placing caches where they are likely to be discovered by onlookers while normal "operation." It is just the sort of thing that is going to get us the kind of attention we don't want. If people are going to do that, all I hope is that they don't place "geocaching" anywhere on it because then they jeopardize the whole activity rather than just their own cache. Why? Is it illegal, immoral, or something you are otherwise ashamed of? I wouldn't place a cache where someone is very likely to accidentally find it, but if someone see you find one, and you explain, what's the loss? Most people are respectful of others hobbies, and would not bother a cache if they know it's part of a game. I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people.

quote:Originally posted by Prime Suspect:The downside to this is when some nice, helpful person wants to assist you in your search, and won't take no for an answer. I'd just let them help. More than once (& I only have 6 finds so far) we have just told people what's going on. I've taken a couple of email addresses and sent tham a link to the Geocaching website. I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people.

quote:Originally posted by mrmnjewel:... just kinda froze where I was standing. ...The girl saw me and began walking over. I just stood there, staring straight ahead. ...I'd love to know what she thought. "How did that dummy get here?". I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people.

Why not... Ecrypt the note that gives away the details, and then those who want to solve it can, others can "cheat". But, if you only want it found by people who have solved the puzzle, then ask people not to give it away. IMNSHO, the person who did the work of placing the cache should have a certain amount of say about the way the cache is designed to be solved. No one has to go any farther than clicking the "Back" button on his browser once he sees what the cache is all about. On the evolution thing... entropy is going to have its effects, and only with intelligent guidance will any system improve over time. I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people.

I'm not thinking of myself... I have learned to read the whole page very carefully, but the Topo map being way off is not at all intuitive, and could give fits to a newcomer. I now have a decent GPS, so I only search w/o it when I go jogging somewhere, and before I leave for my jog I see if the area has any caches (I like to go to places with forest service roads & mtn. bike trails to jog & scout for hashing trails to lay). Making the website as user friendly as possible just makes it easier for beginners not to get discouraged, and also makes it less likely for a veteran to make a simple mistake that might lead to a lot of frustration. I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people.