Chipper3

How long does it take for a cache to be marked (Red Circles) on the page that shows current caches. This is the page that is part of the "placing a new cache" process and shows locations currently taken. I have two caches approved and have been active for about one week but they are not marked. I have attached a picture of the graphic I am referring to.

@Touchstone ...... Thank you! Very Helpful!

I would like to move a final cache about 10 feet from posted location in the approved and published page. Can I just do that thru the Admin Edit or does that require a whole new submittal and review? Chipper3

Thanks to all for the advice and insights! The cache has been accepted as a multi-cache based on the definitions in Section 2.2 in the Help section on Types of Caches. 2.2 clears up 1.) the point of having only two stages with the first stage being the stated chords and the second being a projection from the first stage and 2.) whether should be a Multi-Cache or a Mystery Cache. I get to resubmit.

niraD, I agree with you. And I am enjoying the dialog. My confusion is over the rejection of a cache because it uses insufficient GPS techniques. Solid and accurate chords were determined and were published as part of the cache design for a GPS device to hone in on. Well, I guess my puzzlement may evaporate after I get a response from reviewer. I'm just trying to get some opinions and facts to present as maybe I must be missing something as an old participant returning to the game. Chipper3

Thank you niraD! I guess the answer will be communicated from the reviewer. But, It seems that every Simple Cache would not require a GPS to locate a cache. The chords are posted but so is a map indicating exactly where the cache is located. Just use the map and bushwhack to find the cache. Or plug in the chords into Google Map or other mapping program and just use the map to navigate to the cache location and then bushwhack. With the advent of mapping programs that use chords, A GPS is never needed to find a cache. Well not exactly true - If I am out in the woods where terrain and visibility and topography makes it pretty difficult to navigate to a map location, then a GPS to keep us on-track is a necessity. But for all the park, city caches that I see and have found, Give me the chords and Google Map will take me there without a GPS. Chipper3

I have asked reviewer but no response yet . Simple version - I have classified cached a multi-cache. There is a posted set of bogus chords. The cacher uses a GPS to navigate to those chords. The cacher is given in the posted directions a bearing and distance as well as to look for a solar light (Fairy Light as part of the cache theme) that is located on the projected spot. The cacher uses the sighting to navigate to final location. (Where the light is.) Should this be a Multi-cache or should it be a Mystery Cache. Chipper 3

I submitted a new Cache that gives a set of Chords to a Starting Location. Once the cacher is at that location, then they follow directions in the description to follow a certain bearing for a certain distance to find the actual location of the Cache. The reviewer has rejected the cache application due to insufficient use of a GPS in finding the cache. From the Geocache "Learn About Cache Types", it would seem that the requirement is met by the bullet that says, "Follow a projection starting from coordinates in the field. A GPS is used to find a set of chords and then a projection is used from that spot." What Am I missing? The cacher uses a GPS to be positioned at a location from which they use a compass to walk to the cache. Most caches just list a set of chords and a GPS is used to find a spot and then they bushwhack around and use their "Cache-Intuition" to find the actual cache. I don't see the difference. Please help me understand and Thanks!

Thank you for the help! I am adding a little more detail to be very specific for those not familiar with the nuances of the GeoCache techniques for creating the web part of creating a new cache. 1. Go to PLAY>HIDE A NEW CACHE 2. If you have no caches being developed and not published click on CREATE A NEW GEOCACHE and follow the prompts. 3. When you have completed your session and want to save the work for future refinement before submitting then look for the SAVE and SAVE & PREVIEW links by scrolling down to bottom of the form. SAVE will return you to the form and SAVE & PREVIEW will present what a visitor to your cache page will see. 4. A distinction is important here. Geocaching does not call your work in progress a Draft. Draft is used to describe a temporary field finding log that you use later to log your find. Geocaching calls your cache creation work as an Unpublished Hide. 5. So to find your work in progress, click on your profile icon on the menu bar at the top of any page. The look for the Cache grouping and click on UNPUBLISHED HIDES and then click on the one that you are working on. To Edit, click on the EDIT CACHE link at the top of the page. Hope this helps!

Before submitting a new cache in its final form for review is it possible to create and save a draft version?

Thanks to all who helped us! Yes, she used a different (her own) email addy. Yes, the new user validation letter arrived about 3 hours later. She is "good-to-go." chipper3

My granddaughter signed up to create her own account. How long does it generally take to receive an acknowledgment email? I want to make sure her request is just being processed and not lost in cyber space? Chipper3

I went the route of Red Booking and eBaying. Yep, I sold coins but it was a real time consumer and did not really net fortunes. I posted on many sites to try and find a collector buyer for the lot and no luck. My expereince was that everyone will list the value based on the Red Book until it becomes time to pay for them. The whole money thing just seemed to get in the way of what I percieved was thier real value of creating good will and help. It ain't all about money; it is about people coneecting and helping people at the grass roots level. I won't place the whole stash in the cache. I will place a very random and represenative sample of the coins so if they are raided, I want lose them all in one bad event. If that happens, I'll leave the chords to cache 1 but will change the info necessary to use with the contents of cache 1 to find new cache 2 holding the lode. There are 20,000 coins in the mother lode of pennies. Pennies are the only denomination to be given away. Anyone want 19 rolls of "Steelies?" =) or Would 150 Indian Heads suit your fancy? You will have to find the cache. dan

Well that is pretty sound advice. I am sure you can fill in the blanks about the fun value of this cache and obvious design elements so I will probably pursue with whatever constraints I am given by an admin. In your opinion, If I drop the donation comments on the cache site but keep the obvious education elements inplace will all be OK? I can make some references about taking a coin and keep it as a reminder for the finder to help other people as others helped me. I will also reference the fact that the cache contains a full range of collectable types and dates so the seeker should be able to find a date or type that is speciial for them.

Before investing the time and energy in a cache them I have in mind, I am writing to make sure that the topic will receive approval and not violate some "rule." I am a "boomer" that contracted Polio in 1949. I came through in very good condition thanks to the efforts of organizations and doctors funded by the March of Dimes. My father was very active in the original March of Dimes fund drives that were truly grass roots efforts, etc. So here is the deal... My dad was part of a team that counted the contributions which were literally sacks full of pennies, nickels and dimes. My dad was also a coin collector and would cash out the haul of change for a check and then would go thru the coins for his collections. Sometime along the way back around 1950 he, started renting and loading up safety deposit boxes with these coins. He died last year and we found the mysterious safety deposit box keys which led us on a hunt to find the boxes and discover the contents. Some of the access cards had last been signed in 1951. OK, you can probably figure out where all of this is going. =) The cache will be called Pennies from Heaven. I plan to put a significant quantity of coins from the penny collections in a "safety deposit box" (camo can) somewhere. That box will be hidden very well. Another box will be more accessible and will be pointed to by hints on the cache page. The hints will involve activities that will educate the seeker about Polio and the role of the March of Dimes. The cacher is free to take as many of my father's pennies that they want from the final cache as long as they donate $1 for each penny to the March of Dimes. How to do that will be part of the cache. I thought that their might be some type rules violation by direct references to a charity and the fund raising element. I want to clear this before doing the work. Thanks in advance for your consideration and remarks on this cache idea. I don't want to find out on submittal that it violates a rule.

I am interested (no joke) in if your gerocaching thought processess translated to your job hunting processess. Stuff like evaluating your current life "TRACK" vs. your new life "BEARING" and how to make corrections so you found that JOB CACHE. You seem like a "thinker" so I am interested in your thought processess. Along those same lines, I am thinking about the similarities between scanning the "HELP WANTED" ads to find the target job opportunities vs. scanning teh million possible geocache opportunites and deciding what to search after and how to prepare to get there, etc. I am finding that I am using these geocache metaphores successfully when teaching and am interested in your real world expereince. C3 PS I'll accept in advance all advice "to get a life." =)

I cannot function in North Up mode. I must be in Track Up Mode. I visulize in a line of sight context. I don't use the map modes either. My thought process is very Bearing and Track biased. which way am I heading and which way do I need to head. I get impatient around the prize and can't wait for my GPSr to update on orientation. I am constantly grabbing the bearing to the prize and then looking and responding to my compass. as most folks report, when I get close, I put teh techology in the bag and switch mental gears to the clue and/or the "recognition" of the location.

Good For You! Get out there!

Thank you Jeremy! The hot spot linkable area is now functioning again. C3

I like to use HTML code in the description fields of a cache site. I have a cache description that is actually a graphic (not text) of a letter that contains the clues and challange. One of the areas in this graphic has a linkable hot spot. The code works fine when it stands alone on a site not part of the geocache site. THE CODE WORKED FINE on the geocache site for approx 2 weeks and then suddenly does not work anymore. I have reports that it works sometimes for others and sometimes does not. It never works for me anymore. The seeker can still just type the html into their browser and proceed with the hunt but it is more effective if the link works. The site is The Scarlet Letter in ZIP 29621. Look for the Dear Traveler letter that contains "http://...." language. This area should link to an external web page. It does not appear to be a matter of a bad link but that the hot spot is not recognized as the "hand" does not show up upon rollover. Here is the code in the Long Description. The code was generated by Dreamweaver. Again this worked fine and then stopped. I have not edited the site at any time: I basically alter the background create a table to insert my graphic point to the graphic on my server provide info on the location of the hot spot in the graphic and then point to the link Thanks in advance for any help. C3 <body background="http://homepage.mac.com/mckinney3/KeyCode/A.jpg"> <p> </p> <p> </p> <table width="432" height="605" border="1" align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" bordercolor="#663300" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> <tr> <td><img src="http://homepage.mac.com/mckinney3/KeyCode/DearTraveler.jpg" width="432" height="1476" border="0" usemap="#Map"></td> </tr> </table> <p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><div align="center"> <map name="Map"> <area shape="rect" coords="15,600,428,675" href="http://homepage.mac.com/mckinney3/KeyCode/Setting.html"> </map> </div> </body>

I like to use HTML code in the description fields of a cache site. I have a cache description that is actually a graphic (not text) of a letter that contains the clues and challange. One of the areas in this graphic has a linkable hot spot. The code works fine when it stands alone on a site not part of the geocache site. THE CODE WORKED FINE on the geocache site for approx 2 weeks and then suddenly does not work anymore. I have reports that it works sometimes for others and sometimes does not. It never works for me anymore. The seeker can still just type the html into their browser and proceed with the hunt but it is more effective if the link works. The site is The Scarlet Letter in ZIP 29621. Look for the Dear Traveler letter that contains "http://...." language. This area should link to an external web page. It does not appear to be a matter of a bad link but that the hot spot is not recognized as the "hand" does not show up upon rollover. Here is the code in the Long Description. The code was generated by Dreamweaver. Again this worked fine and then stopped. I have not edited the site at any time: I basically alter the background create a table to insert my graphic point to the graphic on my server provide info on the location of the hot spot in the graphic and then point to the link Thanks in advance for any help. C3 <body background="http://homepage.mac.com/mckinney3/KeyCode/A.jpg"> <p> </p> <p> </p> <table width="432" height="605" border="1" align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" bordercolor="#663300" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> <tr> <td><img src="http://homepage.mac.com/mckinney3/KeyCode/DearTraveler.jpg" width="432" height="1476" border="0" usemap="#Map"></td> </tr> </table> <p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><div align="center"> <map name="Map"> <area shape="rect" coords="15,600,428,675" href="http://homepage.mac.com/mckinney3/KeyCode/Setting.html"> </map> </div> </body>

I like to use HTML code in the description fields of a cache site. I have a cache description that is actually a graphic (not text) of a letter that contains the clues and challange. One of the areas in this graphic has a linkable hot spot. The code works fine when it stands alone on a site not part of the geocache site. THE CODE WORKED FINE on the geocache site for approx 2 weeks and then suddenly does not work anymore. I have reports that it works sometimes for others and sometimes does not. It never works for me anymore. The seeker can still just type the html into their browser and proceed with the hunt but it is more effective if the link works. The site is The Scarlet Letter in ZIP 29621. Look for the Dear Traveler letter that contains "http://...." language. This area should link to an external web page. It does not appear to be a matter of a bad link but that the hot spot is not recognized as the "hand" does not show up upon rollover. Here is the code in the Long Description. The code was generated by Dreamweaver. Again this worked fine and then stopped. I have not edited the site at any time: I basically alter the background create a table to insert my graphic point to the graphic on my server provide info on the location of the hot spot in the graphic and then point to the link Thanks in advance for any help. C3 <body background="http://homepage.mac.com/mckinney3/KeyCode/A.jpg"> <p> </p> <p> </p> <table width="432" height="605" border="1" align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" bordercolor="#663300" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> <tr> <td><img src="http://homepage.mac.com/mckinney3/KeyCode/DearTraveler.jpg" width="432" height="1476" border="0" usemap="#Map"></td> </tr> </table> <p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><div align="center"> <map name="Map"> <area shape="rect" coords="15,600,428,675" href="http://homepage.mac.com/mckinney3/KeyCode/Setting.html"> </map> </div> </body>

I like to use HTML code in the description fields of a cache site. I have a cache description that is actually a graphic (not text) of a letter that contains the clues and challange. One of the areas in this graphic has a linkable hot spot. The code works fine when it stands alone on a site not part of the geocache site. THE CODE WORKED FINE on the geocache site for approx 2 weeks and then suddenly does not work anymore. I have reports that it works sometimes for others and sometimes does not. It never works for me anymore. The seeker can still just type the html into their browser and proceed with the hunt but it is more effective if the link works. The site is The Scarlet Letter in ZIP 29621. Look for the Dear Traveler letter that contains "http://...." language. This area should link to an external web page. It does not appear to be a matter of a bad link but that the hot spot is not recognized as the "hand" does not show up upon rollover. Here is the code in the Long Description. The code was generated by Dreamweaver. Again this worked fine and then stopped. I have not edited the site at any time: I basically alter the background create a table to insert my graphic point to the graphic on my server provide info on the location of the hot spot in the graphic and then point to the link Thanks in advance for any help. C3 <body background="http://homepage.mac.com/mckinney3/KeyCode/A.jpg"> <p> </p> <p> </p> <table width="432" height="605" border="1" align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" bordercolor="#663300" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> <tr> <td><img src="http://homepage.mac.com/mckinney3/KeyCode/DearTraveler.jpg" width="432" height="1476" border="0" usemap="#Map"></td> </tr> </table> <p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><div align="center"> <map name="Map"> <area shape="rect" coords="15,600,428,675" href="http://homepage.mac.com/mckinney3/KeyCode/Setting.html"> </map> </div> </body>

TB's are one of the very interesting activities in Geocaching. You can take any object from a beanie-baby to a baseball to a book to a toy soldier to a let-your-imagination go wild and crete a web page and a mission that is unique to the TB. If you are a baseball fan , you might create a baseball TB and have as it's mission to be signed by baseball players with a picture. Some TB's want to travel to certain locations or be filmed in certain contexts. The TB is placed in a cache and is picked, its mission advanced and then placed back in another cache. The TB's web page keeps track of all the activity. Neat!

Well, I have to rejoin this discussion I started. No, these are not game trails. I am talking about that someone has created a cache off of the main trail and the impact is clearly cache related. I have a large meadow that I go into from time to time to plant wildflowers. I agree that a season of laying fallow will recover the paths I make if I don't keep going down the path. But I have noticed that just a lttile foot traffic will crete a path that doesn't recover quickly. I am just becoming tuned in to this and thought it would be worth discussion on "best practices."