Whidbey Walk

Always look for the trick in the trick question. I'm going to have to use this one at work. http://home.earthlink.net/~whidbeywalk/

Always look for the trick in the trick question. I'm going to have to use this one at work. http://home.earthlink.net/~whidbeywalk/

Hmmm……..after reading the previous guesses and correct percentages, I have to guess… N – Alaska S – Hawaii W- Alaska E – (and this is where I’m stretching it a bit) Alaska? http://home.earthlink.net/~whidbeywalk/

mtn-man, You forgot my group. 5. Those who feel that locationless are not truly “geocaches” and would be best served in a separate site like benchmarks. Of course they would still require guidelines. whidbey http://home.earthlink.net/~whidbeywalk/

Are there plans to upgrade the photo upload capabilities of the geocaching side of the site to the same tools used on the benchmarking side? http://home.earthlink.net/~whidbeywalk/

quote:Originally posted by Gloom:So my question to all those who have a problem with them is this... How are they different from benchmarking? Let me begin by stating that I too have found a few locationless caches (3 or 4). I have read a majority of the locationless cache pages. When the first few popped up, I thought they were a cool new twist on the game, and I played along. Now I have to place myself in the anti-locationless cache camp. Why? Because, they do not hold to what I believe to be a fundamental aspect of Geocaching. Navigating to an object/location using a GPS receiver. Locationless caches incorporate the GPS almost as an afterthought. Now, how are they different than finding the benchmarks? Actually, they are more closely related to benchmarking than Geocaching! However, nobody is trying to claim that benchmarking is Geocaching, that is the biggest difference. I think that locationless caches more properly belong on a parallel site as the benchmarks are now. There are some excellent ideas in the Splitting Geocaching.com into separate games thread. Do locationless caches have enough potential to warrant the development of a complementing site? I don’t know. It’s just my opinion that they don’t belong where they are now. http://home.earthlink.net/~whidbeywalk/

I think Web-ling’s idea in this thread would address this issue to nearly everyone’s satisfaction. (Well, maybe not admin’s since they would be the one’s doing all the work ) quote: I wonder why they were even incorporated into the game from the begining if they were just going to come under fire at a later date. In the beginning there was just a bucket beside a road. http://home.earthlink.net/~whidbeywalk/ [This message was edited by Whidbey Walk on June 09, 2002 at 12:26 PM.]

I think Web-ling’s idea in this thread would address this issue to nearly everyone’s satisfaction. (Well, maybe not admin’s since they would be the one’s doing all the work ) quote: I wonder why they were even incorporated into the game from the begining if they were just going to come under fire at a later date. In the beginning there was just a bucket beside a road. http://home.earthlink.net/~whidbeywalk/ [This message was edited by Whidbey Walk on June 09, 2002 at 12:26 PM.]

I think your missing the real question. If the property hasn’t yet been bought by the city, who it the owner? If it is private property then that seems more of a concern than proximity to a active railroad. This thread has a lot of information about what has happened to one cache placed near a railroad track. This may or may not have been the reason behind making these areas off limits. As far as how close is too close, that can depend on a lot of factors. In my opinion the most important factor is that when placing the cache or when seekers come searching none of us will be trespassing. This thread discussed some of the various trespass laws that exist in the US. http://home.earthlink.net/~whidbeywalk/

quote:Originally posted by Zuckerruebensirup:Actually, I thought of that idea, too. The thing that I don't like about it is that, if a person is checking for nearby caches just before heading out to to go cache hunting, he won't be able to go out and immediately hunt for that cache. Valid point. How about this idea? You create a cache page and then archive that page. The archived page can still be edited by you but can only be viewed by a user who is logged in to the site. You could then put the same information that you would post here in this forum on the archived cache page. On the active cache page you can place a link to the archived page instead of to a forum post. There would be no need to refer to this as the “Whidbey Walk” method. The biggest problem I have with using the forum as cachew nut proposes is that it requires using the Geocaching.com Discussion forum since the others don’t require a login to view the posts. This just isn’t the correct forum to post information about specific caches. I wouldn’t object to using the regional forum, but they don’t meet the need for the login. http://home.earthlink.net/~whidbeywalk/

quote:Originally posted by Zuckerruebensirup:Actually, I thought of that idea, too. The thing that I don't like about it is that, if a person is checking for nearby caches just before heading out to to go cache hunting, he won't be able to go out and immediately hunt for that cache. Valid point. How about this idea? You create a cache page and then archive that page. The archived page can still be edited by you but can only be viewed by a user who is logged in to the site. You could then put the same information that you would post here in this forum on the archived cache page. On the active cache page you can place a link to the archived page instead of to a forum post. There would be no need to refer to this as the “Whidbey Walk” method. The biggest problem I have with using the forum as cachew nut proposes is that it requires using the Geocaching.com Discussion forum since the others don’t require a login to view the posts. This just isn’t the correct forum to post information about specific caches. I wouldn’t object to using the regional forum, but they don’t meet the need for the login. http://home.earthlink.net/~whidbeywalk/

All quotes originally posted by cachew nut. quote: Well you are just the posting fairy aren't you?…. Are you just a natural born troublemaker? Yeah, that’s me. quote: The forum doesn't belong to you personally. Nor does it to you. quote:…go vote your opinion… I have. quote: Don't try to censor me. Who would like to censor whom? quote: I don't care if you like the idea or not. This is the Geocaching.com Discussion Forum. It is difficult to have a discussion with an attitude like that. My apologies if you feel that your other thread was ruined, but since this is a community forum I do feel that I am justified in responding to any post I desire. http://home.earthlink.net/~whidbeywalk/

All quotes originally posted by cachew nut. quote: Well you are just the posting fairy aren't you?…. Are you just a natural born troublemaker? Yeah, that’s me. quote: The forum doesn't belong to you personally. Nor does it to you. quote:…go vote your opinion… I have. quote: Don't try to censor me. Who would like to censor whom? quote: I don't care if you like the idea or not. This is the Geocaching.com Discussion Forum. It is difficult to have a discussion with an attitude like that. My apologies if you feel that your other thread was ruined, but since this is a community forum I do feel that I am justified in responding to any post I desire. http://home.earthlink.net/~whidbeywalk/

Wanted to note that I posted the following in This thread is for clues! Since it deals with this thread I thought I would also post it here. quote:I’m guessing that you instruct the cache finder to check the forum for the remainder of the cache info. I don’t know for sure because it looks like the cache hasn’t been approved, so I couldn’t view it yet. However, I really don’t like the idea of this forum becoming a mass of posts in this manner. When I read your post in the other thread I had an idea of how you were going to accomplish your desire to require a login to get the cache coordinates, but this is not how I figured you would do it. I don’t like the login to view coordinates idea, but I hate the idea of using the forums like this. So, I am going to suggest an alternative. On the cache description page require the cache hunters to email you through the geocaching.com email link. You then reply to them with the actual cache coordinates. That way they have to first login to send the email, and you know who receives the coordinates. http://home.earthlink.net/~whidbeywalk/

I’m guessing that you instruct the cache finder to check the forum for the remainder of the cache info. I don’t know for sure because it looks like the cache hasn’t been approved, so I couldn’t view it yet. However, I really don’t like the idea of this forum becoming a mass of posts in this manner. When I read your post in the other thread I had an idea of how you were going to accomplish your desire to require a login to get the cache coordinates, but this is not how I figured you would do it. I don’t like the login to view coordinates idea, but I hate the idea of using the forums like this. So, I am going to suggest an alternative. On the cache description page require the cache hunters to email you through the geocaching.com email link. You then reply to them with the actual cache coordinates. That way they have to first login to send the email, and you know who receives the coordinates.

Yeah, I was just trying to side step the member only issue. BTW got you by 1. http://home.earthlink.net/~whidbeywalk/

Yeah, I was just trying to side step the member only issue. BTW got you by 1. http://home.earthlink.net/~whidbeywalk/

http://www.geocaching.com/articles/cachedoc_micro.doc. The link is on the Hide & Seek a Cache page. I emailed it to gburgess because that was his request. http://home.earthlink.net/~whidbeywalk/

There are a couple of ways. My preferred method is to use MapBlast! Type in an address and then click Create Map. When the map comes up the Lat and Lon will be just above the upper right hand corner of the map. They are in degree decimal format and have been close enough the few times I have used them. http://home.earthlink.net/~whidbeywalk/

I like Web-ling’s proposal and would like to point out that it already exists at Geocaching.com to a degree. Look at Travel Bugs and the Travel Bug section of this site. Travel bugs originated as hitch-hikers. Individual users attempted to track the movement of an object through the geocaching world using just email contact. Then someone came up with the idea to create a cache page for a hitch-hiker to facilitate the logging and tracking of its movements. An excellent example is "Scooby Doo, Where Are You" by Markwell. He has done an excellent job with them but his abilities exceed what the average cacher would be able to accomplish on their own. Along came Travel Bugs and the Travel Bug section of this site. This addition brought the fun of hitch-hikers to the masses complete with the individual travel bug pages, logs and mapping abilities, for those who choose to participate. The Travel Bugs are a part of the overall game, but they aren’t caches. They are well integrated but distinctly separate. By looking at the Travel Bug pages you can see that the pages share a common Geocahing.com layout but are set apart by their blue background. I haven’t seen any argument that the hitch-hiker / Travel Bug evolution was a bad step for geocaching. Other examples of how the site is already growing and adding subcategories: Event Caches -event calendar making them easier to learn about and attend. Loactionless Caches - Cachers can use a separate link to search for locationless caches. Now a cacher in England can easily find a locationless cache based in Australia, which they can choose to do or not to do. Benchmarks - When this aspect is complete and comes online it will demonstrate how an activity related to geocaching can be integrated into the site without detracting with the existing game. Web-lings proposal didn’t call for any current aspect of geocaching to be eliminated, in fact he suggested activities which could be added. EraSeek made a very valid point about controlled growth and keeping the core activity strong. Organization is key to keeping this growing activity / game / hobby simple and strong. A better Ebay analogy would be to compare an unstructured Geocaching.com site to Ebay having only one category: “Things for Sale.” The suggestion that the site implement a detailed system of user defined filters to offer each cacher a customized view of the site sounds good as a concept but would most likely be prohibitive for economic or technical reasons. It could also discourage new users when they are faced with a complex series of choices. In summary, I had enough free time this morning to write this but not enough time to go caching. http://home.earthlink.net/~whidbeywalk/ [This message was edited by Whidbey Walk on May 29, 2002 at 06:58 PM.]

I like Web-ling’s proposal and would like to point out that it already exists at Geocaching.com to a degree. Look at Travel Bugs and the Travel Bug section of this site. Travel bugs originated as hitch-hikers. Individual users attempted to track the movement of an object through the geocaching world using just email contact. Then someone came up with the idea to create a cache page for a hitch-hiker to facilitate the logging and tracking of its movements. An excellent example is "Scooby Doo, Where Are You" by Markwell. He has done an excellent job with them but his abilities exceed what the average cacher would be able to accomplish on their own. Along came Travel Bugs and the Travel Bug section of this site. This addition brought the fun of hitch-hikers to the masses complete with the individual travel bug pages, logs and mapping abilities, for those who choose to participate. The Travel Bugs are a part of the overall game, but they aren’t caches. They are well integrated but distinctly separate. By looking at the Travel Bug pages you can see that the pages share a common Geocahing.com layout but are set apart by their blue background. I haven’t seen any argument that the hitch-hiker / Travel Bug evolution was a bad step for geocaching. Other examples of how the site is already growing and adding subcategories: Event Caches -event calendar making them easier to learn about and attend. Loactionless Caches - Cachers can use a separate link to search for locationless caches. Now a cacher in England can easily find a locationless cache based in Australia, which they can choose to do or not to do. Benchmarks - When this aspect is complete and comes online it will demonstrate how an activity related to geocaching can be integrated into the site without detracting with the existing game. Web-lings proposal didn’t call for any current aspect of geocaching to be eliminated, in fact he suggested activities which could be added. EraSeek made a very valid point about controlled growth and keeping the core activity strong. Organization is key to keeping this growing activity / game / hobby simple and strong. A better Ebay analogy would be to compare an unstructured Geocaching.com site to Ebay having only one category: “Things for Sale.” The suggestion that the site implement a detailed system of user defined filters to offer each cacher a customized view of the site sounds good as a concept but would most likely be prohibitive for economic or technical reasons. It could also discourage new users when they are faced with a complex series of choices. In summary, I had enough free time this morning to write this but not enough time to go caching. http://home.earthlink.net/~whidbeywalk/ [This message was edited by Whidbey Walk on May 29, 2002 at 06:58 PM.]

Happened to me last week when I was sending out emails about the cache pictures for one of my caches. I don't remember how long it took before it let me start sending emails again, but it couldn't have been more then 20 - 30 minutes. I bet you could send more by the time this is posted. http://home.earthlink.net/~whidbeywalk/

I just sent it to the email address in you profile. Hope it works ok. http://home.earthlink.net/~whidbeywalk/

I just sent it to the email address in you profile. Hope it works ok. http://home.earthlink.net/~whidbeywalk/

With all the different requests to create a more customizable method of downloading to EasyGPS I figured it was time to through in my 2¢. My needs would be met if I had the option to download selected caches from My Cache Watch List just like I can from the Cache Search Page. That way I weed out the ones that I have already found, hid myself or just don’t find interested in finding. It would also enable me to download in one file caches spread along a route. I would enjoy the search features previously mentioned, but if it isn’t likely that they can be implemented perhaps this could at least address some of the requests. http://home.earthlink.net/~whidbeywalk/