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  1. I've attended several events that had a "max capacity" simply due to the number of people the venue could accomodate. I think the interpretation of "open to all geocachers" more reasonably means "all geocachers who RSVP before we run out of room" rather than "as many people can show up as they want to, even if it means 300 people show up at a pizza parlor that can only hold 100 people."

  2. Given the fact that there is a Jeep pictured in the icon, and given the fact that there are separate attribute icons for quads and motorcycles, I would assume that the "off road vehicle" attribute would refer to Jeeps and the like.

     

    I would also assume that a trail accessible to a Jeep would likely be accessible to a quad or a dirt bike (with some exceptions, of course).

     

    I can't recall finding a cache with an "off road vehicle" attribute that I couldn't get my Jeep to. To double-check, I created a query of all the caches within a couple hundred miles of me. After randomly viewing the coordinates for about 20 of those using topo, street, or satellite maps, I didn't see any that didn't have what looked like relatively close 4x4 access.

     

    With those points in mind, I really don't see how there is a problem with how the system is currently set up. Is it possible to misinterpret the attribute icon? Sure. But I couldn't come across a glaring example of where this has happened. Perhaps you could point me to some specific examples?

  3. Yeah, but you have over 3,000 finds, I only have 500 so my percentage of DNFs is much higher. So who is the worse geocacher now smarty pants?

    Alright, wiseguy. I bet if you left an ammo can sitting on top of a picnic table I'd still find a way to DNF it. Heck, I've DNFd a cache while I was literally standing on top of it! :laughing:

  4. I've posted a grand total of ONE "needs maintenance" log. All of the caches I've seen that were truly in need of maintenance seemed to have already been identified by someone else. Unless it's in really bad shape, I won't remember to even write it down.

     

    I haven't gotten a single "needs maintenance" log posted on any of my cache hides yet.

     

    I don't have a set schedule for checking on caches. Usually it's "whenever I'm in the area"--which is at least a couple times a year. One of my micro hides gets visited at least every couple of months when I'm nearby, and there have been a couple of my remote ammo can hides that I haven't visited since I hid them because I've had no reason to.

  5. Wait, how does hiking at 7,000 feet have ANYTHING to do with this topic? (But since you asked, I was hiking at 10,000 feet last weekend, and it's just like hiking at 1,000 feet, only a little chillier.) The fact that we're a gun-toting, shoot-em-up country and many other countries aren't has absolutely zero to do with geocaching either.

     

    But now I'm left wondering...What was the point of this topic again?

  6. I also like to know when the moderators have removed something really juicy from the text.

     

    For example, If I state that TheLep is a flaming <<removed by moderator>>, and if someone else then removes the above-referenced profanities, we'll know I'm REALLY in trouble! :D

     

     

    This post has been edited by Keystone: Oct 4 2006, 4:10 PM

  7. Same thing happened to me when my old card expired and I forgot to input my new card info...so my premium membership bounced. However, Groundspeak seems to do the Paypal auto-renewal a few days before the membership actually expires, so you might not lose any of your membership benefits before they re-run the transaction (at the very leaste, your profile still displays you as a premium member).

     

    By the way, in trying to add my new card in Paypal, I accidentally deleted my auto-renewal entirely, so I had to sign back up for premium membership. My next renewal started on the date that my membership was set to expire, so I didn't wind up double-paying for any length of time. So either way you're fine.

  8. IC, perception is everything in this game.

     

    Picture this: Groundspeak says "Okay, knives are banned in caches except in Idaho." When my local parks department hears about geocaching and goes to the website, what they'll read is "Weapons are allowed in geocaches!" Won't go over well, but could be solved after lengthy explanations.

     

    But then, after I finally convince our park ranger he has nothing to worry about, let's say our caching friend "IdahoJoe" goes on vacation and finds a few caches while he's in town. Since knives are okay in caches in Idaho, he assumes they're okay in California, and leaves a few cool knives in some local caches.

     

    So when my local park ranger hears about this, how do I refute his argument that geocaching is dangerous and should not be permitted in his park system?

     

    Likely? Maybe not, but certainly possible. And geocaching nearly got banned entirely in South Carolina because of the perception that geocachers were disturbing grave markers and damaging historical sites, based on even less plausible theoretical scenarios. Government officials--and ESPECIALLY lawmakers--will use any opportunity to distort the truth in their favor. Why give them more reason?

     

    I never asked for idaho caches to have "Knives" there should be some way responsible people can act accordingly..we can make up senerio's forever well what if the sky fell and killed us all?? you know the point i am making you have to make the decision to be part of the solution or part of the problem...If you fear your lawmakers vote them out..they are supposed to be serving you ,you pay their salary..stand up and be counted or stand back and be led..it is all your choice.

    On that note i think all bases and points of view have been covered remember i can not choose for you you have to do that part..thanks ..

     

    Moderators Please close this thread thank you...

     

    I assume I'm also either with the President or with the terrorists too, eh? Lovely rhetoric, but ultimately meaningless. Life ain't all black and white, and there are many other people in the process of establishing reasonable geocaching guidelines--most of whom I'm not in the position to "vote out" (as if my one vote is going to scream out among the millions of other voters anyhow) because I don't necessarily live in the same state/district/whatever (folks in my area are generally supportive of geocaching and aside from NPS lands, only a few specific state parks/national forests have formal policies regarding the game). Yeah, I don't support the guidelines for my own benefit. I support them for myself AND everyone else's ability to play the game.

     

    You're fairly new to geocaching, so you might not be fully aware of the many years' worth of constant struggling between geocachers and skeptical land managers/legislators. Many of these have played out very publicly in these forums, but there have been many other more private battles that have had to be fought to retain the right to enjoy this game in our public lands. As with any sport/hobby, those who refuse to accept a few simple rules (IC, I'm not referring to you) make everyone who enjoys that sport/hobby look bad. As I already stated, the perception that people don't follow the rules is enough to accomplish that.

  9. I rarely cache in the vicinity of my home, so the bulk of my finds are many miles away. I've had a small chunk of FTF's on caches that were hundreds of miles from my house and my computer. I tend to find a lot of caches at a time while I'm away for the weekend, so when I get home I have a lot of logging to do (including reviewing my notes, editing/uploading photos, etc.). Consequently, it can be days or a week or more before I get my log online.

     

    That doesn't negate the fact that I got to the cache, and that I got there first.

     

    With that said, though, I don't get what all the fuss is about. Sure, it's fun to try to get there first, especially if it's a far-flung cache that has been out for a long time. But I don't brag about being FTF (I don't even acknowledge it in my online logs anymore), and I most certainly don't keep a running tally of my FTFs like some people do.

  10. IC, perception is everything in this game.

     

    Picture this: Groundspeak says "Okay, knives are banned in caches except in Idaho." When my local parks department hears about geocaching and goes to the website, what they'll read is "Weapons are allowed in geocaches!" Won't go over well, but could be solved after lengthy explanations.

     

    But then, after I finally convince our park ranger he has nothing to worry about, let's say our caching friend "IdahoJoe" goes on vacation and finds a few caches while he's in town. Since knives are okay in caches in Idaho, he assumes they're okay in California, and leaves a few cool knives in some local caches.

     

    So when my local park ranger hears about this, how do I refute his argument that geocaching is dangerous and should not be permitted in his park system?

     

    Likely? Maybe not, but certainly possible. And geocaching nearly got banned entirely in South Carolina because of the perception that geocachers were disturbing grave markers and damaging historical sites, based on even less plausible theoretical scenarios. Government officials--and ESPECIALLY lawmakers--will use any opportunity to distort the truth in their favor. Why give them more reason?

  11. Ok i am the bad guy yet cache heads you post nothing but flame bait instead of addressing the points i ask about ..why are my questions so amusing ,Oh you live in SOcal..ok you have alot of Forest service and BLM ground there do you have land managers?and snoogans does the armpit have them??sioneva do you have them in OH sorry you did not post where you live ok do they have them there..? Hmmmmm all primium members and they have nothing to tell the new guy...interesting...in all seriousness i have yet to see but a handfull post in this thread something with substance besides complaining about my complaint...come on and i am the bad guy ?/right.

    If I had an attitude like that, I wouldn't be too shocked if I got more than a few snide retorts.

     

    How about putting a gift certificate to a hunting store in your cache? That would be cool... and within the guidelines.

    Or heck, how about a certificate for the FTF to redeem the knife directly through the cache owner? There are easy workarounds that don't involve violating the cache listing guidelines. I don't agree with every rule on this site, but if I want to play in this sandbox, I have to follow each and every one of them...not just the ones I like.

     

    I've met many of the land managers the OP seems quite eager to deprecate, and I can assure you that the listing rules are what keeps many of these guys from saying "no" to geocaches on their lands. If given the choice between either 1) allowing you to hide a knife in a cache or 2) my local forest officials banning geocaching, I think it's pretty obvious what my decision would be.

  12. The truly ridiculus thing about this is that the cacher has now attempted to log the cache over forty times, with each log receiving the same fate - my delete key - and he has yet to get the message!

    As I see it, the truly ridiculous thing about this is that the cacher has now attempted to log the cache over forty times, with each log receiving the same fate - your delete key - and YOU have yet to get the message.

     

    He found the friggin' cache. His name is in the log book. As I asked before...how is that NOT a find? :laughing:

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