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Based on the chatter on social media I've read, it ended last night. A few people were hoping they would extend the deadline a bit. Apparently some folks were caught a bit off guard with the final step, which apparently is not insignificant.
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Yep. Totally up to you how you'd like to celebrate milestones.
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Probably a pointless superfluous set of instructions anyway. You can already get loads of trackable codes and Puzzle solutions on social media, wouldn't surprise me if this one is out there too. Like the CO states in the Description...
" I thought it would be time to mess with your heads a little bit. "
Yeah, well there's loads of people that will likely mess with you right back buddy.
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Wow, an ALR and Agenda (e.g. the part about "bad apples"). Bonus points for effort. I've heard of people trying to see how many Waymark Categories they can list a certain object or location, but I rarely see the same challenge applied to Guideline violations. A for effort, but sounds like they geocided (minus the dramatic Archiving of all their Listings of course) back in May/June time frame.
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This happened in my area once, and the only way to resolve the issue (without HQ intervention) was to Unarchive the Listing by a Reviewer to unhang the process. Seems to me the issue came about when a CO sent the unsolicited Adoption notification to the recipient, but then Archived the Listing some weeks later when they didn't get any response from the recipient. The recipient CO was then able to reject the request, which cleared their queue.
If you local Reviewer is willing to do it, that is one approach. Otherwise it will take HQ stepping in to fix.
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Even with a fairly explicit Hint, it was pretty tough. Unfortunately, it was a pretty tough location to keep a cache active, due to it being a bit of a tourist attraction.
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25 minutes ago, Elektrazz said:
I have a question about Earth Cache distance requirements. Does anyone know if they have the same restrictions as regular caches?
No. Or at least not the same way physical caches are checked for Proximity. The only restriction is based on duplicate lessons/content for the same geologic feature. No distance is mentioned in the guidance, so YMMV.
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10 hours ago, lee737 said:
Funny, how just about everytime we walk in a national park, we see people merrily walking their dogs....
Link for reference:
https://www.nps.gov/subjects/pets/index.htm
Most of the larger National Parks I've been to don't allow pets in the backcountry however.
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3 hours ago, Krabby86 said:
Hello everyone,
I am new to this community but already thinking about some ideas. Maybe I will create my own Cache after gaining some experience soon.
My first idea would be to place a Multi cache in a non public area and I would like to ask if this is allowed. An idea could be a climbing gym where (at least of a part of the multi cache) something is hidden inside. Since it is necessary to pay an entrance fee ... is this unwanted or even forbidden? The approval from the owner of the gym will probably not be an issue.
Thank you.
Regards
André
Another option would be to find a publicly accessible climbing area. Be sure to check with the local land manager about any restrictions on geocaching in the area.
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6 hours ago, webmicha said:
Every geocacher is forced to see souvenir events on his profile, even if this is not wanted. I know that really a lot of geocachers love this souvenirs. But there are also a lot of geocachers which are bugged out of them. So why not give every user the choice or at least an opportunity to opt out?
The option to opt out is already available if you post a Note rather than an Attended.
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Mount Saint Helens is one of my favorite stops between the two cities. A number of predictable volcano related EC's are to be found, but Ape Cave and Impressions of Trees are fairly close together and quite remarkable:
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2 hours ago, dprovan said:
That's right. As I said, I don't see anyone in my area cheating. THen I went on to say that even those that some with puritanical log signing requirements would consider cheating are normally not following those puritanical log signing requirements only because they've never thought about it before.
I’ve had, on a few occasions, reported accounts that appear to log bogus finds over many States and/or Countries in a single day. I’m not sure an ALR is going to make those problems disappear, but that sort of “cheating” still does occur.
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Related article from the Garmin site regarding custom icons:
https://support.garmin.com/en-US/?faq=gtDjiglxSO5nLNr3BP8m36
Maybe that will help. I haven't done this sort of thing in years, but there is usually a place to choose the icon in a menu of some sort (e.g. Customize or something similar). I'm guessing the icons are specific for each file that you download, and that is why you have the different icons, so you can tell which file it came from.
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14 hours ago, carmichael0578 said:
I'm trying to organise a cito with my local council they are asking for a plan of works closer to the time what do I need to include?
many thanks in advance
I would include the boundaries where the work is to be done, the type of work, an estimate of the number of people involved based on historical attendance of nearby CITO events, the time frame the work is expected to take.
Questions I might have for the Council would be the kind of support I could expect, such as equipment and personnel that could assist in the work, like trash bags, trucks to haul away any trash, or any relevant equipment needed for the proposed work. Additionally, any permit requirements as well as liability insurance that they might require.
Above all, be thorough and answer all questions to the best of your ability.
Best of luck.
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40 minutes ago, The A-Team said:
Source?
I Googled that and couldn't find where it came from.
Yes, a citation would be nice so that it could be added to the public Wiki:
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13 hours ago, Crazedllama said:
Would deleting a log even change anything with CHS? I guess that's a question for another forum.
Some examples have been posted in other threads that suggest that deleting logs has no impact on the CHS. I'm pretty sure the Developers took that type of gaming the system into account in the design of the CHS, since it's a pretty obvious hack. It's just like the example of deleting a NM log type from a Listing page has no impact on the accompanying Attribute (e.g. the dreaded wrench). I'm pretty sure the CHS sees everything, even if it's not visible to us.
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3 hours ago, SN67 said:
Thank you very much
I'm surprised that the first regulation didn't happen until the beginning of 2007
2007 probably coincides with the time frame that people stopped reading Descriptions
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15 hours ago, funkymunkyzone said:
2017. The anti-commercial guidelines have been there as long as I can remember. And I highly doubt grandfathering and no precedents applies to geocaching.com giving away free advertising or giving away "valuable web impressions for free" as Keystone put it. Because that would not be what a "smart online business" would do.
All of this is quite OTT anyway, not to mention veering wildly off topic... I just don't see the issue with paying a reasonable fee to enter a touristic spot that a/ many people would enter anyway, and b/ people can choose not to enter.
(And I don't have any such cache I'm trying to get published or bitter about not being published, if that's what you're thinking.)
The introduction of the Commercial portion of the Guidelines dates back to 2002. Back then, the guidance read as follows:
QuoteCommercial Caches
What is a commercial cache? A commercial use of the web site cache reporting tool is an direct or indirect (either intentional or non-intentional) attempt to solicit customers through a geocaching.com listing. Examples include for-profit locations that require an entrance fee, or locations that sell products or services.
Some exceptions can be made for certain cache types (e.g. locationless) In these situations, permission can be given by the geocaching.com web site. However, permission should be asked first before posting. If you are in doubt, ask first.
Commercial by this definition is not restricted to monetary solicitations. Caches posted for religious, political, or social agendas will not be posted either.
In the Off Limits portion of the same version, there is also mention of various means of granting exceptions to various portion of the Guidelines. For example, back then, there might be exceptions granted for the Proximity portion of the Guidelines, which you rarely if ever see nowadays.
Then, like now, the usual approach is to describe the situation in a Note to the local Reviewer, who may or may not agree. Failing that approach, Appeals can be reached through the Contact section of the Help Center for a final ruling.
Success may hinge on your abilities of persuasion and the merits of your argument (e.g. things like "because I said so" are rarely successful). It really depends on how strongly you feel about the subject, and judging from your posts, it sounds like you are fairly passionate about commercial locations.
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I've always used my Username. Like Max said above, I wouldn't worry too much about it. Most cache owners I've met are pretty reasonable.
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3 hours ago, funkymunkyzone said:
Should it really matter?
Apparently it does. Link for reference:
https://www.geocaching.com/help/index.php?pg=kb.chapter&id=22&pgid=475
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12 minutes ago, Wet_Ground said:
only because it stands a control burn better than plastic and I don't have to many metal caches but I see why it could be a bad Idea.
I had an ammo can on the edge of a wildfire. The can sort of survived, but the rubber gasket was completely melted and useless. The contents were blackened and charred beyond recognition. All the trees in the area survived with only slight damage to their bark. I may be wrong, but I’m pretty sure glass would fair far worse.
I replaced it with a plastic container, expecting that replacement just comes with the territory.
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Nothing really in the Guidelines to restrict you from using glass, but this Help Center article mentions that it’s not a great choice:
https://www.geocaching.com/help/index.php?pg=kb.chapter&id=128&pgid=75
Although, rather than saying it may get broken and cause a hazard, I would say it’s inevitable.
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I would add a fourth way:
Leave the cache in good or better shape than you found it.
Not talking about non cache owner maintenance here, but simpler things like making sure the lid is on tight, dry out the container if it’s a bit damp, trade up or even ,etc.
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3 hours ago, barefootjeff said:
Good luck with that.
Using the scooter analogy that arisoft mentioned, you would confine the allowable area in which Users would be allowed to place the traveling cache. In my area, you can pretty much ride the scooters anywhere, but there are certain areas that you MUST leave the scooter. Similarly with a traveling cache, the CO would define the geo-fence that would confine the area where a drop off would be allowed. Presumably, in this process, a Reviewer would be able to see on a map, the area that the geo-fence encompasses (most likely not the entire world), and be able to reject a submission that does not have certain areas excluded that have known restrictions. The person moving the cache would then find that when they move out of this allowed "fence", would see that the ability to "drop" the traveling cache would be disabled, until they moved back into the geo-fenced area. In addition, the phone app this game would play on , would also have to be "aware" of existing caches at the same time, in order to exclude areas to close to existing caches. Same with Events (e.g. "pocket lint" problem), which would have to be active during the duration of the Event, to discourage people from passing them around at Events (good luck with that for sure).
Another possibility is to have these geo-fenced areas predefined, say, an entire State, or County. A bit more costly as someone would have to input all that data beforehand.
Ya, sounds like a total nightmare to develop, but interesting thought experiment.
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Power trails in the suburbs are bad for “Geocaching”.
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Knowing a bit about the cache owner and their situation, I think it's best to just ignore them if it bothers you, and apply more filters to your searches to help weed them out (e.g. D/T combinations, and/or Attributes). On the plus side, they appear to be a very active cache owner when it comes to maintenance. I think that kind of behavior is to be applauded if not lauded these days.