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    What do you recommend?

    in EarthCaches

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    Per the Terms of Use of the website:

     

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    Publish on our websites the solutions, hints, spoilers, or any hidden coordinates for any geocache without consent from the geocache owner.

     

    I don't think it's necessary to reiterate on the Listing page what is already stated in the TOU.  I would probably log a Note on the Listing page that the image was removed due to a spoiler.  That should make it clear to future Finders what was going on.

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    Have The Rules Changed?

    in General geocaching topics

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    6 minutes ago, The A-Team said:

    In my opinion, if a cache looks like it's on private property and permission has been granted, it would make a lot of potential seekers feel better if they saw a statement in the cache listing saying so. @Keystone, I know you and your fellow canine companions can't require adding such a statement, but do you ever recommend it to COs? If so, how often do COs tend to agree with you and do so?

    From the Guidelines:

     

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    If you have permission to place a geocache on private property, indicate this on the cache page for the benefit of the reviewer and those seeking the cache. A community volunteer may ask you to provide contact information of the person giving permission.

     

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    Have The Rules Changed?

    in General geocaching topics

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    5 minutes ago, cerberus1 said:

    I just find it odd to go straight to the Reviewer

    Some people are more comfortable going straight to someone they are familiar with, rather than confronting a new User, and the title of the topic is merely asking whether there has been a change (which Keystone addressed).

     

    I think it's fair to ask, just like it's fair that we give them our accumulated wisdom and critique ;)

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    Making caches in different countries

    in How do I...?

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    We have military families stationed in my area for various time frames, but for the most part, longer than the minimum 3 months.  They typically will place a few caches in the area while they're here, and then collect them and Archive their Listings when they move on.  One of my favorites was an ammo can along a bike path with coins from around the world that the cache owner had collected on their tours.

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    Combination Of A Wherigo And An Earthcache.

    in EarthCaches

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    1 hour ago, Camroo said:

    Hey There Cachers! Ive Got This Idea For An Earthcache That Requires You To Play A Wherigo Teaching You About The Geology And Then Brings You To A Final Location Where You Answer The Earthcache Logging Tasks. Has Anyone Seen Something Like This Before? And Is It Even Aloud?

    Not successfully that I'm aware of.  I suspect that it runs afoul of the following FAQ regarding auto-responders, which is basically how a Wherigo would behave:

     

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    We appreciate that you are attempting to make the logging process more efficient, however, the use of “auto-response” e-mails and third-party websites is not permitted, for two main reasons:

    1. People do not need to wait for permission to log your EarthCache. Requiring someone to wait is not supported by the EarthCache guidelines. People should send their logging task answers to you, then log your EarthCache. When you review their logging task answers, if there is a problem, you should contact them to resolve it. If there is no problem, then their log simply stands.
    2. The types of questions/answers used by “auto-response” e-mails and websites are too limiting and usually do not provide a strong educational experience, which is a vital part of EarthCaching. Logging tasks that ask for highly-specific, generally short answers, such as “15 meters” or “brown”, do not meet the educational goals of EarthCaching, and do not allow for enough flexibility or interpretation.
      Furthermore, the proper review of logging tasks is considered one of the basic maintenance duties that must be performed by EarthCache owners. Because no physical container must be maintained, it is expected that EarthCache owners take the time to review logging submissions on their own, without automated aids.
      Although there have been EarthCaches published in the past that use auto-response e-mails, this will no longer occur, as autoresponders are now prohibited by the 1 January 2013 update of the EarthCache guidelines. EarthCaches that were published before 2013 and include the use of autoresponders are not "grandfathered" and are expected to be updated by removing the autoresponder.

     

    Mystery rules location clarification

    in How do I...?

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    20 minutes ago, Jbird and Zip said:

    I have a Traditional cache in front of our house. I want to place a new Mystery cache about 50 feet from the existing Traditional. The Mystery's final location will be about 1.5 miles away.

     

    We've seen this sort of arrangement on other caches and want to make sure we're following Geocaching rules for Mystery caches.

     

    Steve (Jbird and Zip)

    As RA said, if your posted coordinates at the top of your Listing page are virtual, it should not be an issue.  Virtual waypoints, like you might commonly see for Puzzle and Multi cache types, are not evaluated for Proximity.   Only physical Stages, and of course, the Final cache container will be checked for nearby caches.

    Power trails in the suburbs are bad for “Geocaching”.

    in General geocaching topics

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    3 hours ago, L0ne.R said:

    This is how I feel. 

    In my experience, the PT culture has decreased the overall quality of the pastime.

    By sanctioning PTs, Groundspeak promoted cheap quality containers and lots of them. Then said it's OK to community-maintain them. That attitude quickly became the norm for all caches. 

     

    Citation needed.  The only references I could find regarding maintenance, seems to put the responsibility squarely on the person who placed the caches (i.e. cache owner)....

     

    https://www.geocaching.com/play/guidelines#cachemaintenance

     

    https://www.geocaching.com/help/index.php?pg=kb.chapter&id=38&pgid=57

     

     

     

    3 hours ago, L0ne.R said:

    Has the comments about how PTs effect geocaching negatively had any effect? 

     

    Apparently it has:

     

    https://www.geocaching.com/seek/log.aspx?LUID=5d11f05a-89d3-409b-851b-e06406b9daf4

     

    Congratulations to the OP.  Job well done. [/sarcasm]

    Mit den Augen gefunden...

    in How do I...?

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    Related Help Center article:

     

    https://www.geocaching.com/help/index.php?pg=kb.chapter&id=141&pgid=533

     

    The guidance is pretty simple, and it's what I typically follow.  Personally, such "virtual" visits that you describe, run the risk of getting the attention of a local Reviewer (however unlikely that may seem), and be interpreted as either an attempt to avoid maintenance obligations and/or turning a physical cache into a virtual cache.

    Freezing ticks

    in General geocaching topics

    Posted

    The wart remover OTC products are ether based, so technically, I wouldn't call that "freezing".  More like anesthetizing.  CDC (here in the U.S.) still recommends the tried and true pulling ticks out very close to the head, where the object is to remove it as soon as possible, so that the exposure time is minimized.  I'm thinking that the "freezing" home remedy merely prolongs the time that the tick is attached.

     

    For true "freezing" methods, I found mention of using liquid nitrogen, which most people don't typically have just lying around.   You'd have to go to a Dermatologist or someplace similar, which no doubt runs into the $$$.   Those drastic measures are typically reserved for situations where the ticks are attached near the eye etc.

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    Power trails in the suburbs are bad for “Geocaching”.

    in General geocaching topics

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    3 minutes ago, Goldenwattle said:

    Yes sometimes, although I placed a NM and a month later a note to remind them about one broken cache with sodden log, and they finally placed an OM log to say that someone had reported leaving a new cache. It didn't sound like they did the maintenance. I hope the old cache was removed.

    Just for clarification, I'm talking about a cache owner located in California referenced by the OP, which it doesn't appear  you've visited, judging from your Profile.

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