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Similar topic from a few years ago:
I would imagine that the answer to the question is much the same today as it was then.
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1 hour ago, KayakGZ said:
The rules mention removing the cache if a permit is not obtained. The permit application asks for exact coordinates, as if they want to inspect it first?
My experience is that they want/need the coordinates in order to determine if the cache is off trail or not, and if there is any adverse impact that must be taken into consideration. Other considerations might include restoration work that they don't want disturbed, or culturally sensitive areas they would rather the public doesn't know about or get advertised on line.
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I often will just post a Note on a Listing page I want to go back to and either update or write more about later.
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In my area (i.e. Not Connecticut) I wouldn't hold my breath between Thanksgiving and New Years for an answer. Most of the Park and Open Space offices are either closed or minimally staffed. Most people on on duty are dealing with law enforcement activities and patrolling, and not too concerned with taking care of paperwork.
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You might get a small number that are sequential, but for a geoart project, I'd say that's nearly impossible without some help from HQ, and I just don't see them going out of their way to support something like this.
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One of the more creative arduino based caches (maybe one of the first):
http://arduiniana.org/2010/10/puzzle-box-a-long-awaited-opening/
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29 minutes ago, HunterandSamuel said:
I replaced a lost capsule cache that was hanging in a tree for a geocache friend today on our bike path. He got several DNFs so we checked it out and sure enough...it was missing. We logged a "found" over a year ago so this one is called..."helping others before the reviewer gets there first". LOL
I think a real friend would offer to Adopt the Listing. When/if your friend was able to get back into the game and adequately maintain their caches, you could always Adopt the Listings back to them.
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8 hours ago, Ragnemalm said:
IMHO this should be against the rules,...
I don't think we need more rules.
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When I placed a cache near the cabin that we share with family, I tried to put as much information in a Note to the Reviewer as I could, to demonstrate that I not only would maintain the cache, but also have a long history of caching in the area, as well as, and understanding of the land management issues in the area. The types of issues I addressed in my Note were:
1. The frequency and length of time we spend at the cabin.
2. The fact we share the cabin with other family members who could be called upon to address any maintenance issues.
3. The distance from the cabin to the cache site, and the type of access required.
4. Land management policy for the area regarding geocaching on public lands.
The Listing was Published on the first pass. The more information you can give, the more likely the process will be pretty simple.
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In my area, a list of 10 local Users who qualify is usually sufficient to demonstrate the Challenge is reasonable, not hundreds.
as pointed out already, your Challenge is contrary to the guidance based on the specific list portion.
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Link for reference:
https://www.geocaching.com/help/index.php?pg=kb.chapter&id=107&pgid=547
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3 minutes ago, Lynx Humble said:
It should be maxed at 500 active cache.
So it sounds like it would take 10 Sock Accounts to get all those caches Published. Either way, the result is the same, only slightly harder to track. I think it's better to have them all under one account. Streamlines the GDPR (or if we're being honest here, self-banning/geocide) action down the road.
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9 minutes ago, HunterandSamuel said:
Big difference in my opinion. Because I wasn't seeking "help". Never clicked on that link because I didn't know it was actually a guideline/rules/regulations section.
More of a clarification section, to expand on some topics, in order to keep the already lengthy Guidelines as brief as possible. I counted over 2 dozen links within the Guidelines that lead directly to expanded relevant topics in the Help Center. It's hard to imagine someone so steeped in the Guidelines as yourself hadn't noticed that.
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1 hour ago, OusKonNé & Cétyla said:
In such an example, it would have been great to have a way to allow the community of geocachers to salvage these abandoned caches.
I have no doubt that there are scores of Users that would jump at the opportunity for an all expenses paid trip to France to undertake this enterprise. I suggest one of those online fundraising websites to get the necessary funds to finance this project.
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I think the Title of the thread is a bit misleading. Oxford describes "etiquette" as being a, "customary code of polite behavior". Throwdown's do not appear to me to reach the level of "polite behavior", as much as they appear to be an attempt to secure a Find at any cost. So in essence, a throwdown is more of a selfish act and not altruistic at all.
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6 hours ago, Guido-30 said:
Is it possible to delete the attribut "need maintenance" automaticaly when a owner log "enable log"?
Many owners don't log "owner maintenance" with enabling, so the attribut often stays for a long time.
I see this all the time, and yes, it is a problem. My suggestion would be to add a checkbox to the Enable log type, that would clear the NM attribute, rather than doing it automatically. That would give the cache owner the option to clear it, or not, depending on the situation.
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10 hours ago, Rathergohiking said:
Time to have new web cam caches. It has been done with virtuals, similarly with the evolution of lab caches. Limited amount of hiders resulting in above average quality. WHY NOT WEBCAMS??
I love your sense of nostalgia.
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Before initiating a search for your mojo, the first question you must ask yourself is, does your mojo want to be found. If your mojo left voluntarily, it might be a fruitless search to try and get it back if it has no intention of returning.
If you merely misplaced your mojo accidentally, it may be helpful to retrace your steps to the last known location of your mojo. If you enlist the help of friends and family, be sure to give them a thorough description of your mojo, so that they don’t accidentally pick up someone else’s mojo by mistake.
Good luck with your search. For future reference, it’s always a good idea to use a tracklog when caching. I’ve found it indispensable in retrieving my mojo when it accidentally falls out of my pack or pocket when I’m on the trail.
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3 hours ago, dprovan said:
Surely parks don't routinely complain about articles encouraging people to go to their park, do they?
Actually, yes they do. I was asked by the BLM to Archive 3 of my EC's due to concerns regarding foot traffic to geologically sensitive areas (I was allowed to keep three others in less sensitive areas). These were EC's I had permission to place by the previous Resource Ranger, but was subsequently revoked due to impact concerns. It's there land to manage, so I grudgingly complied (courteously of course).
My original point is that the EC Reviewers were merely complying with stated polices that are readily available in links I provided. If you have a problem with the policy, talk with the Land Manager to change it. There's nothing in their public facing document that addresses EC's or Virtual caches, so I can't blame the local and EC Reviewers of taking the default position that regulates physical caches. In other words, I would not presume.
But as barefootjeff stated, maybe I'm just misunderstanding the situation.
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I would assume that the geoaware for your area would follow the process put in place by the local Reviewer. It's also a publicly available document, so while it may be annoying, it shouldn't be any big surprise:
https://wiki.Groundspeak.com/display/GEO/New+South+Wales
Your energy might be better spent working with the NSW NP in updating their Policy so that it includes some less onerous process for Virtual and Earthcache types. Kind of interesting aside, which you probably already know, but the very first Earthcache was placed in a NSW NP back in 2004!
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40 minutes ago, barefootjeff said:
Here, I'm sure the immediate reaction would be "You must be joking, mate!" and, if you persisted, you'd be deemed a trouble-maker and escorted to the door. Front-line staff don't have the authority to give written permission for anything that doesn't have a pre-existing form they can stamp and those that do have legal authority don't want to be bothered by such trivial things as a few people going to a public beach to look at some rocks.
I'm not sure what your reference to "written permission" pertains to. For the most part, my dealings have been with mid level staff. Examples are Backcountry Rangers, NPS Unit Supervisors, Interpretive Rangers and Resource Management Rangers. I've always supplied contact information in my Notes to the Reviewer, which usually includes Name, Title, Address, Phone Number and/or email address.
In general, I'm not usually considered a "trouble-maker", but I do enjoy a good joke.
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7 minutes ago, barefootjeff said:
Can you imagine the reaction you'd get if you wandered into the local council offices wanting written permission to take a bunch of mates to the beach?
Yes I can, and the exchange has always been courteous.
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1 hour ago, spacemule said:
Scenario: small log sheet. People signing with a stamp that takes up 5 lines or they skip lines.
Am I the only one that finds this behavior annoying, self-centered, and tacky?
Nope. You're not the only one...
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adopting a cache from a desceased geocacher???
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As a Family member, I would imagine that you have some say in either Adopting his caches or taking over his account. I've seen them do that with Spouses, who have taken over the maintenance of the caches under the primary account.
Sorry for your loss.