Colonel Mustard

I print out the cache page after I log it and then keep it in a note book just to look back on some day when I'm too old to do those 5/5 multi's. I also print out the topos to go with them sometimes and any relevant pictures. Just for fun.

Comes from the game Clue obviously. Seemed to fit well with caching. Person.... object.......location. Colonel Mustard did it in the woods with a GPSr?????

Generally, everyone who's ever asked me about geocaching has responded with "wow that sounds like fun. Can I go along sometime?" Maybe they're searching for a life themselves. Could be that those who are knocking it are secretly envious but don't want to admit it. Or too lazy to get off the couch and do it themselves.

How about a deaf, dumb and blind nymphomaniac that owns a liquor store? OK I'll settle for an e-trex legend

Hi, maybe I'm wrong ______________________________ I'd say the "maybe" doesn't belong. If you don't like getting dirty, or encountering yucky things like bugs or snakes, then you need to take up pacman or something..........or else you are a red herring just out to stir things up.

Well we seem to be getting an overabundance of micros in my area. No challenge. Walk right up and look for the film container in the tree trunk or the hide-a-key box sucked fast to the drain pipe. The cough drop tin under the curb block. 1/1 stuff. Sad thing is some of them have the difficulty rating skewed, so you don't know till you get there. I'd rather do an interesting virtual. In some cases they could have hidden a traditional cache, but have now screwed up the area for the 1/10th so no-one can put a good cache in it. I agree, I beleive many are there just to avoid maintenance. I wish they labelled micros as a separate animal. They'd be on bottom of my list, or almost. Just below virts and above locationless.

19. Always use a cache container with a lid that won't go back on.

I never get too excited by the cache contents anyway. It is mostly just trinkets. I take a trinket, leave one. Most of the stuff never comes out of my cache bag till the next cache anyway. I've kept very few items I've ever retreived from a cache. Just recycle .The ones that leave a state park map that they picked up on the way in to the cache sorta tick me off though. If I'm traveling I often try to leave something from my home area. I trashed out some broken junk though, and soggy paper trash just to clean up the cache.

Bilder: I looked at the instructions, but they don't elaborate on the chamber or the barrel. The picture posted with the article also appears to use 1/2" and 3/4" pipe, but only 1/2" pipe is mentioned. ----------------------------------------------- The picture is compressed in one direction. I opened the graphic in another program and it all looks dimensional. I think the 1/2 inch is probably good.

Amazing how much discord 3 or 4 folks can cause. ----------------------------------------------- And some of it comes from people without an exceptional number of finds......amazing ----------------------------------------------- The bashing of the Approvers and Admins is the reason I started my thread. I don't always agree with everything they do, but I still respect them and think they do a hell of a job. ----------------------------------------------- Not a job I would want to be paid for much less volunteer to do. ----------------------------------------------- Personally, I think the site and the hobby are pretty good as they are. There are always things that could be improved, but this is one of the friendliest hobbies that I've found. I can do it without a lot of investment. No super expensive equipment. No mandatory things like attending meetings. Meet some really good folks. A good web site to work with. It's a fact of life that there are always those who throw themselves into a hobby or sport or something and just feel that they have to do it 110 percent and wish to make everyone bend to their idea of what that sport or hobby should be. I'm just glad they are the vocal minority. There will always be some complainers.

OK who's got a drawing or some dimensions for one of these? I need one real bad!! LOL

I'd be really concerned with how much water is going to get into the container when cachers inevetibly fail to put the lid back on right............Of course then you could turn it into a virtual goldfish pond cache.........but then you couldn't get it approved ............... hmmmmmmmm

Originally posted by CYBret: more than 600,000 million copies sold. That's 100 copies for every man woman and child on the planet. Wow! ------------------------------------ There are 2 BILLION people on the planet

5 gallon bucket? Wow that's a lot of loot........or some really BIG trinkets

Colonel Mustard: Maintenance Supervisor for a LARGE hospital Miss Scarlett: office manager for a drywall company <YAWN>

I'm not sure how much ILL WILL is caused by virtuals, so much as a vocal group complaining about them. I have visited a few. Some lame. Some very interesting. I have also visited some very lame micros hidden in some really stupid places. One micro hidden in under a curb block in a parking lot comes to mind. I'd have much rather went for an interesting virtual. One thing I like about having a few virtuals around is for bad weather days. Another is that those folks who are less mobile, or incapacitated in some way, have an oportunity to do some cache hunting. I agree that wherever possible a true cache should be placed, however there are locations that truely prohibit that. Should those places be ignored? I don't know. Most of the virts I've seen usually revolve around some local history. I figure if you don't like virts, don't hunt them. There are usually plenty of traditionals around to do instead. Personally, I think locationless caches are far more lame. Is walking three miles to some desolate spot in the woods to uncover a tupperware container more rewarding than visiting some bit of history that I didn't know about before? Not for me but then to each his own. List them separate like benchmarks if you must, but don't eliminate them as unworthy. OK I've got my asbestos suit and armor on to ward off all the arrows and flames.

While I would hate to see an over abundance of virtuals I have found probably 90 percent of the few I've done to be very informative. I've gotten to obscure places I never would have visited otherwise. I've learned some local history and generally had a good time. I can see that for disabled or those less mobile it is a good way for them to stay involved in the hobby. I can think of some locations nearby that would make excellent virtuals. Perhaps some guidelines about what makes a good virtual cache??? My feeling is that the diehards can ignore virtuals if they choose, but they would still be available for those that have few other options.

9/2/2003 quote, southdeltan: I'm beginning to wonder if some of the posters to this thread read anything beyond the first message before offering their opinion. _______________________________________________ 9/2/2003 quote, southdeltan: Some of the hypothetical situations you are suggesting are just absurd. _______________________________________________ 9/7/2003 quote, southdeltan:You seem to be making this some kind of personal attack - that is immature and uncalled for. _______________________________________________ Hmmmmm?

First, I think if you make a public leader board, it will turn caching into a competition. Maybe just for bragging rites, but a competition none-the-less. As it is now, I go out and it's me against my wits, experience, know how, the terrain, etc. Not me against you or him to see who climbs to the top of the list. Hypothetically, lets say the leaderboard posts the top 100 in the state. I have 41 caches. I am number 101. I know that number 100 has two bogus cache finds, but claims 43 finds. Do I A. Run out and find 3 more caches quickly? B. Log 3 bogus finds figuring I can do them over the coming weekend? (Besides someone has already done that to get into the top 100) C. Write lengthly e-mails to "TPTB" for a remedy. D. Give up and forget it. Everyone knows it will be "C", a gripe-fest first then B as an alternative. To keep the playing field level, somebody will have to police it, and make unpopular decisions, especially about questionable find claims. This will ultimately lead to disgruntled parties. It doesn't take much imagination to realize what those folks could do to a hobby that relies on trust as much as this one does. I think if "TPTB" want to provide data to a third party, and let someone else have the hassles then go for it. Right now, if I run into a cacher in the woods it's a friendly affair. If he or she and I were competing for that number 100 spot (or higher), do you think it would remain a frienly family oriented pastime? Also, think about this..... If I'm in one of the top spots and I want to slow down the competition, what better way than to just take a few caches along out of the woods when I leave? Now there's a plus for the hobby!! (Notice I didn't say SPORT). I'm for keeping it a hobby. A nice family type activity without pressure. There are enough sports out there for the radicals. Just my thoughts.

I think a bigger problem is cachers who fail to post the whereabouts of bugs they've placed, retreived, moved. Kinda leaves the owners in limbo until someone finally logs it. Perhaps the cache page needs some kind of big logging button as a reminder. I've seen some caches that are supposed to have bugs that haven't been there for months apparently. quote:Originally posted by Cache-Me-if-You-Can:What is the travel bug etiquette regarding revisiting a previously logged cache just to grab a travel bug?