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Guess that includes Police Departments too? Or will they say they don't use them while in motion?

But have you seen those rays, mtn-man? lol Actually, although it doesn't meet the requirements of a virtual, the argument of what is common is subjective. One could argue, as I think it was stated somewhere in this thread, that containers hidden in a stump, under a tree, amongst some rocks adn etc...is fairly common as well. A bunch of sting rays may be common to one, but for those who have never even seen the ocean before, it wouldn't be common. Even though I've seen sting rays before, it's not a common thing for me to see them in the trout brooks up here in massachusetts or in lake thurmond back at home.

I prefer not to Doc. In the summer of 2002, we went to Panama City Beach , FL camping. We had a great time with our boogie boards. Then the next to the last day we were there. I woke up and was outside drinking my coffee just at daybreak. The campground we were at was St Andrews State Park and our site was right at the waters edge on the bay there. I'm standing there on the rocks drinking my coffee, watching boats and all, when all of a sudden a huge shark fin comes up out of the water about 100 yards out. I say huge. I would gather to say the shark was larger than I am, so that's huge to me. I told my wife about it and she didn't believe me. Then later that day, we were on the ocean side of the park and decided to go on the boardwalk which we never went to. We saw sharks and rays everywhere and only several hundred yards from where we were playing in the water earlier. Good thing we didn't them until then as we wouldn't of gone back in the water...lol

I was just thinking yesterday when caching. I was walking the trail wearing a flight jacket, gloves, baseball hat, sunglasses, and had a scruffy beard. I saw and passed many people. Some with kids. I was wondering how many people were wondering what I was up to, out there all by myself and looking like that.

Thief! No disrespect!

That's awesome NavDog

Thief!

You? Didn't you do one on yesterday? You've done nearly 40 of them and even own one... Although the virtual cache stated in this topic does not meet the requirements, I wouldn't venture to say that swimming with and petting rays is lame. Unless of course you are use to swimming with great whites and killer whales...

I wouldn't archive it just yet dzdiver.....give them some more time...make a note on the cache page if you already haven't. Hikemiester: Some others have stated that they do similar things. I have ziplocs, pens, and etc in my bag with me normally. But sometimes I don't take my bag with me. Depends on the cache. If it's a quick and easy one then I won't take it. If it's in an urban area where others are around, I won't take it normally. And sometimes I plain out forget it at home. Plus the bag isn't really big enough to carry a container, unless that is all that's in it. Some people will not fix a cache plain and simple, whether it's theirs or someone elses. I have gripe if it's theirs, but I do not expect them to do it if it isn't theirs. However, most people will fix them up and sometimes carry items. Many times they will see it mentioned in notes on the cache page and go out and repair it. The great thing about having a system like I stated would be that when you are searching for new caches to do, that there may be a little icon stating it needs maintenance. You can at least look to see what it's going to need so that way you don't have to carry in an entirely new cache. It may just need some ziploc bags or a pen or book. Some people will still carry everything. Many won't. This may also change ones mind about doing it, just like the above multi that couldn't be completed.

Although it may be a letterbox hybrid cache, that doesn't make it any harder to find. What you described is a puzzle cache or mystery one.

I don't think that was called for....

I bagged four today. Would of done more, but had to get hoem to put chicken on the grill. Here are the ones I got today: Watershed Retreat The 'Usual Suspects' Cache Trout Brook Cache Quinapoxet Cache This brought me up to 87. I'm hoping to get to 100 by the end of this weekend.

Feel free to place on my site in the forums under the "sight Seeing Caches" area. Same thing as virtuals. People can post messages of their finds, but their is no record keeping. Just a simple and easy way of sharing great places.

Some "usual suspects" are gonna make sock puppets and let them be the first 6 and then the usuals will get to go in....lol

Good to hear Keystone. As far as the owner getting an email. Yeah I iomagine some will not look at it. But if it is marked differently and they know their cache could be archived, they may go and do soemthing, but then again, they may not care. Keystone. You mentioned adding a log type it needs maintenance. What about having it add an icon in the search listings like it does the TB's and the cache types. That way people who may want to go out and do some maintenance on caches could or at least it will get the attention of the next cacher and they could check to see what it needs and possibly bring it to fix it. Also just like how it does in red at the top of the cache pages about caches are archived or disables, then maybe there could be an attention getter there too for the same thing.

Doc....a lot of people do not even read the logs at all. I normally don't sit down and read the logs. everyonce in a while I will. Not my own caches , but ones I haven't gone after. Since I use the PQ's on my PocketPC. I usually don't read anything on the cache until I get there or in the area. Also as another stated here, they don't want to read them because of spoilers and etc. The point of making it of where it flags the cache as well as notifying the owner is that for those that do carry and/or like to help with the caches will know ahead of time. For instance, there may be some caches that are within a few miles of my house. I don't sit there and read the logs all the time. But if I were skimming across the listings and see that there was a maintenance icon, I would check to see what was up with it. I may be able to go and fix it quickly for the owner. Not everyone is carries stuff to fix caches. Although some feel they should, it's not a requirement. Technically the cache belongs to the owner, and just like a pet, it's ultimately their responsibility. Although many of us will help out the cache for simple things from time to time. Also I don't carry my pack to every cache I go to with ziplocs, pens, pencils, and etc. Also some people won't put in their postings about maintenance needed. It's not saying that they would use the feature, but some may see it and remember a problem. Also if the email is ignored, then after a certain amount of time if the flag was not removed, then the admin can be notified and they can take action as deemed necessary. Or they could be notified when the maintenance flags are placed and keep an eye out on those caches.

Yes that was sort of the idea on it, not sure if I mentioned it. I'm all for making it more automated and less work for the admin. But I think that there could be a part where the admins are notified of existing problems. Say ones that haven't ahd maintenance completed on them.

Not sure if this has been brought up or not, but I will give it a shot. Their is always talk about maintenance of caches. Many of us see that the real issue with "vacation caches" are maintenance. But not only with those type of caches. I had an idea on this. What if when you are logging a find on a cache that there is a section that you could mark stating that the cache needs maintenance. Then within, there can be a selection of common problems: broken container, needs new logbook, contents wet, no (or low amount/quality) trade items (for caches with trade items), and etc. This would be sent to the owner along with the report of someone finding it. Perhaps an icon can be made next to the cache on the listings annotating that the cache needs maintenance. This offers a few things. One the owner is made aware of maintenance issues, TPTB/Admin are aware, and it lets other cachers know. Many cachers feel that it's the caching community to help keep caches maintained. This is perfect for those people that feel that way. Some who people like to go and do those things and help each other out. Once the maintenance is completed, then TPTB/Admin should receive a message that it was completed. That way, the "flag" can be removed. Perhaps when a flag remains for a certain amount of time then the cache can be disabled and the owner notified, then after another amount of time of being disabled that if it's not taking care of then it's either archived or put up for adoption. It was just a quick though, so don't tear me apart. I know that some people wil lmake some comments in the online logs, but many times the owners never read them. At least if they get an email saying maintenance needs to be done, then they will respond to it. This could also be seperate from making a log entry buy one of the options of where the others like "found it", "make a note" and etc are. It could at least send a seperate type of email to the email and marked as important.

I take no responsibility in harboring a fugitive, I mean J5...lol Hey Sax, my son jsut turned 13....just you wait!

I may be interested as well RockyRiver. We may be moving there within the next few months.

Well Kiwi, I answered you on the regular forum about this a while ago. Guess what, I might be moving to NC myself. My wife did a phone interview this morning and they wil lbe flying her down for an in person interview soon. So by the looks of it and with the grace of god, we will be moving to the Charlotte area. Which will only put us a couple hours or so from home, Augusta, Ga. I can't wait either! Oh by the way BrianSnat, Grits or good and unbelievably they sell them up here in hte grocery store and at Denny's too. Yes Coke and Sweet Tea for breakfast, heck either one at anytime of the day. I remember visiting my aunt down near Charleston when I was little and their maid making fried chicken in the morning. I believe it was for dinner, but it seemed early in the morning. I can't wait to get back to some real country cooking. We went to NYC a couple months ago and stopped at a cracker barrel in CT. Man was it good to get some greens and fried okra. Talked to my dad in Augusta this morning and supposed to be like 70 degrees there today. Can't wait to get to cache some down there. I see since I was home in Augusta in July that there have been a lot more caches placed. Going to have to get those and place a few myself.

Looks like a good ambush spot for a cougar! Not sure if there are any big cats like cougar up here. Haven't heard of any. There are fisher cats though. Would be a big jump for a cougar. I would say it's around 20-30 ft high. There's an old powderhouse on top of it from back in a couple hundred years ago. It's where the town stored the gun powder. There's an alarm type of thing up there too with a siren. We also have bears, moose, and all the other animals and insects. I never thought I would ever say this, but the ticks and mosquitos up here are worse than they are down south (Augusta, Georgia)

But that would only be true if you had to reach 100% to get a ban. Some have gotten their bans with only 10 and 20%'s. So there is really no time to tell when you will be banned....

Why not? It's a great incentive to make sure your caches are good and not simply thrown into the brush in some lame neighborhood park. Why hide something that few people will go find because of the low rating? Many people who place caches won't care what people rate it at. Many let their caches go to you know what. Many don't respond to emails. It won't change the aspect of the caches. It may however slow down placing of caches. There's a thing that you can use from Texas Geocaching, which I have used on my caches pages that lets you tell if caches are kid friendly, steep climbs, restroom facilities and etc. These are some of the things that people mentioned. Whatever you get out of it will vary though from person to person. I did 5 this past sunday with my son. We had 2 total different aspects. I enjoyed all of them. I enjoy every cache. Some not so much as others and some much more than others. I mostly enjoy the caches that are either in the middle of something historical and/or micro caches. Personally I am starting to get bored of ammo boxes. How I would rate caches on those parts would differ from many others. I don't care too much for multi's, but many do. I think peoples own biased opinions could sway others into something that they will not see that good. Also as I stated earlier, if you have are having a bad day, then even the greatest cache will not be that great.

Big rocks.....and the mosquitos of course...