sataraid1
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Call the police and get your stolen property back. Today.
I'm not so sure the police would consider a box that you left out in a field to be stolen property if it's taken.
Once it was illustrated that the cache was a purposefully placed object, taking it off of someone else's property was a malicious act of theft.
If that was someone's tree stand the police would be all over it.
There is no splitting of hairs, there are no "degrees". Willful theft is willful theft. Not to mention they had to trespass to take it. Hold them to their own paranoid standards and see how they fare.
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Call the police and get your stolen property back. Today.
Suggest that the officers explain to these jerks that they have no control over property that doesn't belong to them. "Passing near my property" doesn't cut it. Point out that the ACTUAL property owners could well charge THEM with trespassing. I sure would, especially since they won't return your cache.
Then saturate the woods with caches. Measure the cache-to-cache distance with a ruler if you need to.
I am absolutely sick to my bones with paranoid, belligerent, self-serving [people] who think they've got some moral imperative to control every square inch of everything they can see.
It astonishes me that you found someone who'd let you place a cache, and the site was STILL ruined by some jerk who can't practice what he preaches.
[Edited by moderator to remove potty language.]
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I use MacCaching to export cache records to my second-hand iPod. Unfortunately, it's so old that I can't take advantage of the new feature of exporting the cache logs to iPod notes.
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There is a cache close to home I visit repeatedly for the purpose of dropping off TBs. The cache is kind of lonely, and when I put TBs in there people visit it more frequently. I just leave a "TB drop" note in the log and on the cache listing.
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I found this pretty little stick figure in the woods once.
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The good thing about a competent, serviceable hint is that it gives the finder some control over the difficulty of the cache. Think about it: you may place some ultra-clever hide that's going to have seasoned cachers talking to themselves, but what if it's some first-timer? A decent clue gives them a shot at it as well. Instead of a DNF and a bad experience, the cacher is going to look at the hint, probably figure out the hide, and come away thinking "ah, now I have a better idea what to look for on tough hides now".
And it's always up to the finder whether they want to look at the clue or not.
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Get thee to the closest halloween closeout aisle, and grab some of those fake plastic severed fingers!!!
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I have a couple of tough caches where I have given a hint to help out because, after 20-30 minutes of searching, there is a strong probability that a hint will be needed. So a log says " Quick and easy find, walked right up and made the grab", there is NO WAY, with the average cacher, on that particular cache it would be a quick and easy find without the immediate use of the hint (unless of course the previous cacher left it totally exposed to make it "easier" on the next cacher, but (sigh) I'm sure there has been many a thread about that).
Don't assume, and don't oversell yourself. Sometimes, finders just get lucky, and the cache appears in front of them like magic. Especially if the coordinates are spot-on.
Luck trumps skill.
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Oooh, make a really big one out of a bear trap with an ammo can welded in the center!
Seriously, though, I think it's pretty funny. But the only way I would consider hiding it would be as a PMO cache way, way, WAY off the beaten path to keep the muggles away and reduce the chance of being found by cachers with kids.
If I made a mile-or-two hike into the deepest woods and found that, I'd laugh my a** off.
FWIW.
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It's already deemed appropriate in several locations. IIRC MIGO is paying an annual fee for cachers statewide in Michigan, and I think there is something similar in Georgia. In NC we also have a fee for placing caches in State Parks, and I can only think of 2-3 hides that have paid the fee. The rest of us play elsewhere.
And there are parking fees and/or admission fees for many public lands already.
I wish I could say that this surprises me. Typically insipid governmental behavior, stepping over dollars to pick up dimes. Geocaching probably brings hundreds of visitors to a park that wouldn't otherwise have come there, but they can't resist grabbing that extra buck, can they?
I personally would refuse to pay a fee to place a cache in a park that I had to pay to get into in the first place, and this is from a guy who usually buys DNR park annual passes AND horse tags.
It would be interesting to see exactly how much revenue the state of Indiana generates specifically from geocaching.
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We had to stop placing good hints due to one local cacher who was using google earth and the hint and mapping programs to determine final locations for caches etc, all our hints our now either not there until he / her / they have found the cache or are they deliberately obscure until you hit ground zero.
We use to like leaving clear hints for the final cache but now find we can not.
This is a complete non sequitur for me. How does using GE differ from using your GPS itself or a topo map? GE may give you a general idea of where a cache is located, but it's not detailed enough to show you that it's in one particular tree or fencepost or whatever.
Unless you're hiding your caches in the center of giant red "X" marks, GE isn't going to give away it's exact location.
Regarding the OP ... I agree with your hinting criteria completely. A serviceable hint will CYA if you post awful coordinates. If people find the cache, but note the coordinates are off, you can fix them. If you just get a string of DNFs, your cache will end up ignored by everyone.
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You need to get over the idea of micromanaging your TBs. They go where they go.
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I have mixed feelings. I suppose that it's good they allow caching at all, however ...
It's their park and they can make the rules, but dealing with pages of boilerplate would make me simply want to go somewhere else. What's more, how challenging or fun is it going to be to find caches that are no more than 5 feet off of a trail? In that proximity, how long before they're muggled? No thanks.
I predict that it's only a matter of time before one of these "public lands" decides that a fee for placing a geocache is appropriate. Mark my words.
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$3 a month for the five or six PMO caches in the area? Not much of an incentive.
$3 a month for bookmarks and pocket queries? I couldn't get to PayPal fast enough.
There are a LOT more reasons to pony up the measly $3 than PMO caches. It's money well spent, and only the tiniest fraction of the actual cost of geocaching.
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Try not to take this the wrong way, but to my mind leaving $60-80 worth of stuff in a geocache is nothing short of lunacy. I mean, it's a tupperware box out in the woods, fer cryin' out loud.
This whole thread makes me all the more satisfied that I don't bother with trading at all. I really don't want to have to carry a book of itemized receipts, an assessment schedule, and a calculator just so I can pick up a plastic butterfly. FWIW.
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I have yet to run into another cacher in the field, but I keep hoping to. On nice days, I've actually hung around at particularly scenic cache locations thinking someone might show up. No luck yet.
And it amazes me how often I've logged a find only to see that someone had been there less than a half hour before or after me.
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What about in a cache log entry? There are times when I've wanted to add some bold or italic text, but basic HTML tags seem to be ignored.
Yet, I've seen it done in a few logs. What's the secret?
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I used to avoid reading the logs prior to searching, and the cache records I carry on my iPod don't include them. However, I'm going to have to start peeking at the last few before I go, because I've been burned too many times already by searching an hour for a cache, then going home to log the DNF only to find that the last five or six logs were also DNFs.
Frankly, I wish the system would automatically flag caches with 4 or more current and successive DNFs with some kind of icon. That way I could avoid adding them to my bookmark lists altogether.
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1. Is there anyone out there familiar enough with the Cobra GPS 1000 GPSr
to field a few operational questions I have?
2. Are there enough users out there with already built street-level maps
to explore the possibility of swapping maps?
Given the shortcomings of the Cobra software, and the time involved in
making and uploading street-level maps to the receiver, we could save
ourselves a lot of time and frustration by swapping the maps we've
already built. Once they're on your SD card, they can be pulled off
with any card reader, backed up to CD, transferred to another SD card,
or swapped with other Cobra users.
Maybe there aren't enough users out there to make a go of it, but it
seemed like it was worth asking.
Muggled Cache Suggestions
in General geocaching topics
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You might be able to make that argument for a cache left on public land, but NOT private land. Otherwise, every tree stand, hammock, picnic table, and camper left for a summer would be up for grabs. And clearly that's NOT the case.