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quote: 1. As you mentioned you have no intention of maintaining it. From what I could gather, the cache was a collection of items - not a traditional container full of stuff. Once the cache was depleated, it wouldn't require maintenance - as there would be nothing there anymore. quote: 2. It wasn't a permanent cache quote: 3. It had no log book. I still haven't seen anyone show proof that those two things are required to place a cache. In fact, not too long ago one of the cache approvers even said that single use / single finder caches were okay. (In this thread he seemed to be saying that they are still allowed, as the caches were approved and posted... nothing was ever said to the contrary, at least in that thread) quote: I guess the real problem is with the inconsistancies of the PTB if other similar ones are getting approved. I personaly am impressed by the approval process. Very true. If there is a page somewhere saying that temporary caches are forbidden, or that log books are required... then I'll accept when caches like this are refused. But, when I've placed a cache nearly identical to this one - and it was allowed, it makes it hard to swallow when someone else's similar idea gets smacked down. If you MUST have a log book, fine... make that clear somewhere. If it MUST be a cache that you intend to leave out there indefinitely, okay - just put that in the "rules" somewhere. As it is now, all we have are lots of suggestions of what a cache should be. Too much room for interpretation, imho. View The ToeCam

My Monster Cache sounds similar to what you are doing. It didn't contain a log book, and it was there just to give away little good luck monsters... at first I intended to archive it when it was emptied, but then I did refill it once before it was stolen. Everyone that found this one seemed to love it. I also recently replaced an abandoned cache near Moonville Ohio with my Moonville Replacement Cache which I happened to place without a log book. I was going to use the log from the abandoned cache, but when I got there to place the new one - I discovered the log book was destroyed... so it is sitting there with no log book as well. Next time I'm down that way I will add one, if it hasn't been done by some kind geocacher before then. I don't think this cache is any less worthy because it doesn't have a log book yet. It has assloads of goodies in it, it is in a sturdy ammo box style can, and it is hidden in a pretty nifty little spot. I've not seen anywhere on the site where it says that a logbook is mandatory for a cache to be approved, either. View The ToeCam

A condom falls into the catagory of an "item that will be of no value to anyone else" once it is placed in a cache. Obviously nobody will use it, so it is no better than wadding up a burger wrapper and chucking it into the next cache you find, imho. View The ToeCam

It most likely isn't a problem with your coordinates. I have a cache that is placed about 50 yards from the edge of a nearby lake, but the MapQuest maps show it as being several feet into the lake. I think a good description should be able to let people know it is not in the middle of a lake, without giving away any crucial details. View The ToeCam

Newbies helping newbies... what a wonderful world! View The ToeCam

Measuring against a benchmark might not be the best way to check, as many of them have adjusted values - or can otherwise be several feet off from the given coordiates. I forget the reasons/explanation - but if you go benchmark hunting, you'll notice many of them aren't where the coordinates say they will be. Depends on what type of marker they are, or something. I've never had reason to doubt my GPSr... if it says accuracy is within 20 feet, and I let it sit for a few minutes... it usually will settle in at once specific reading. And when I check my waypoints against their display in USA PhotoMaps, it is usually dead on. Make sure your receiver is set to WGS84 data, too... that's one thing that might be wrong. View The ToeCam

quote:Originally posted by GoldKey:Here is a little secret. In the weeks before Thanksgiving, search the net for "Black Friday Lists". These will tell you what all the sale items are going to be. Go shop the week before Thanksgiving and buy the items you want and then just go in to customer service on the day of the sale and get a price adjustment. Yeah - several of the stores around here got wise to that, and pulled the super deals from their shelves (until today) when they learned that price lists and ads were being leaked to FatWallet and other such sites. Luckily I wasn't going out after any deals in particular - I was just kinda out there to look around and get whatever caught my eye. View The ToeCam

You just get to wait until someone logs it... and... umm.. I'm not sure what it will do about the miles. I guess whoever logs it into or out of a cache will start the mileage there. I shouldn't have replied... I don't really know what happens next. View The ToeCam

Ahh - I see... I didn't check the actual cache page. I guess there is no question why this particular cache is not there anymore, eh? I think the folks who took it were pretty considerate, since it sounds like they at least gave the owner a chance to come and get it before they picked it up themselves. View The ToeCam

Yeah, I always kinda feel bad for the last person who found a cache that has been stolen/vandalized. I kinda go out of my way, when talking about it, to make sure they don't think that I am blaming them or anything... hard to tell when/why a cache gets plundered and stolen completely sometimes. View The ToeCam

Yeah, and I'm about to delete all my Mort links too. View The ToeCam

Yeah, and I'm about to delete all my Mort links too. View The ToeCam

I suggest getting the 1.5 version of HomeWatcher if you have some personal web space that allows FTP uploads. It is what I use for my webcam... while it isn't "live video" it will at least update images at any intervals you'd like. See my cam via my link below. View The ToeCam

I went out to get some deals, like the other 95% of the population today... and boy were there a bunch of idiots to be seen. I dunno - when I go out on the day after Thanksgiving, I understand there will be lines... I understand that stuff that I wanted might be sold out in some of the stores. I understand that there will be lots of traffic. Evidently these things weren't considered by a lot of the folks I saw today. I saw people trying to ditch in line in front of people, which of course instantly turned the rest of the line into a grumbling frenzy. I saw people yelling at the poor cashiers about the lack of items... I saw people driving in and out of traffic, zipping past a slow car only to jam on their brakes when they come upon another car a few yards ahead. Countless people shaking their fists and yelling at other drivers inside their cars... some of them almost looked like they were having seizures. Then the best example of holiday spirit... in the parking lot at the mall. I had a nice spot up front, and I sat there as I waited for my wife to get done with her shopping. In less than 15 minutes I saw about a dozen different cars where people were making gestures at other drivers about getting a parking spot, or getting out of a spot, etc... but the best one was when two people were waiting for a car to pull out, and then one girl zipped into the spot - and the other guy proceeded to get out of his car and stand outside that woman's car, yelling at her through her window. She wouldn't even get out of her car - evidently creeped out that this yelling guy was standing there. Anyway? WTF is wrong with these people? If you are guilty of it, perhaps you can explain. I'd think it is common knowledge that the day after turkey day is going to be insane - and if you can't deal with it, perhaps you need to stay home and take your medication. At least it is mildly entertaining to us easy going folks... it was almost like I was watching cavemen or something. *laugh* View The ToeCam

quote:Originally posted by carleenp:I was also considering the alley behind my garage. I have a vine covered fence and could wire a micro to it or something. That could also be a good hide. You are right... we'd have to see these to understand how/why they would be good places for caches. Just hearing that you want to place a cache in an alley, on a fence - it just sounds very uninteresting to me, so far. But, I'll give the benefit of the doubt and assume that you want to place it there other than you wouldn't have to leave your own yard to do it. View The ToeCam

I wanna complain about people who start a thread, get a conversation going - which then turns into a bit of a pissing match, and then they delete the original content of their post, and close the thread to anyone else that wants to comment. Personally, I kinda liked the idea as stated in the original post, but now that he deleted it - nobody else reading that thread will know what they are talking about, or be able to form a fair opinion on it. If you start a thread and you don't like what it has turned in to, just walk away.... no need to cover your tracks or have the whole thing locked down. View The ToeCam

quote:Originally posted by bmac:What do people usually use as log books in micro caches? I would also like to find something to act as a sort of passport for a travel bug. They make Post It type sticky pads that are pretty small... they are probably 2 inches long by a half inch wide or so. Not exact, but the pads are about the size of a fat index finger. I either staple them at the sticky end, or glom some Goop on it to keep it from peeling apart. View The ToeCam

CHEATER!!! Actually, thanks for finding that out... I figured that someone, somewhere must have done the same thing we are doing here - and made a web page out of it. I just wasn't sure how to go about finding it. View The ToeCam

I miss the "Earth" so much, I miss my bug It's lonely out in space On such a timeless flight... And I think it's gonna be a long long time Till Fly4Food brings me round again to find The bug I sent away when I was home Oh no no no... it is rocket man's Rocket man's, roaming out in California alone... View The ToeCam

Lots of good replies... ones that I hadn't thought of, and some that I was like "DOH! Of course!" when I read it. I mean... Jello, duh... has anyone anywhere ever called it flavored gel dessert product? I can't believe neither me or my friends thought of that one. *laugh* Although... I'm not aware of "chicken" "eggs" and "duct tape" as being trademarked or copyrighted or whatever by a specific company. I'm guessing those were jokes, but "eggs" was mentioned twice. Any further info on those are appreciated. View The ToeCam

quote:Originally posted by Mr. Snazz:Perhaps rephrasing the yes/no questions: "I understand that the guidelines ask for permission to be obtained for the placement of caches from the owner or land manager of the site". There ya go. That would work. And as for the "never show me this again" thing, well - it kinda already is that way now. I think in order to use the site you have to agree to something, so I guess it assumes it... but I see what you mean, at least there would be one time of acknowledgement before you'd not have to see it again. Although, it isn't like people hide a new cache every other day... having to click a few yes boxes wouldn't be that troubling to hiders, imho. View The ToeCam

I'm not sure how it came up, but some friends of mine were recently discussing things that despite of whatever brand name they might be - they are all referred to as one particular brand's product. Some more often than others, and some terms may be regional, so there may be a bit of debate about these. I'll list the ones we thought of... please add any others that you can come up with. Kool Aid Cheez Whiz Band Aids Q-Tips Post It Notes Kleenex Ziplock Baggies Tater Tots Magic Markers Tupperware View The ToeCam

I have hidden a few caches that are made of little containers, about the size of a fist... I call them micros, and assume that most people will seek it just because it is a cache, and it is there. But I also stuff it full of trinket crap, so that people might still be pleasantly surprised that a "micro" will have so much choice of booty items inside. View The ToeCam

quote:Originally posted by Sissy-n-CR:Oh, just had an evil thought. Water cannon with that dye from dyepaks from banks. Mmmm.... you are my new hero. Excellent idea. View The ToeCam

Sounds like sound legal advice for J and TPTB at least... and it would possibly protect seekers, a bit - if they are ever hassled by someone about looking for a cache, they'd be able to point to the form that will filled out by the hider, saying it was "all good" or whatever. What is the term... plausable deniability or something. Although, "guidelines" is the key word in this whole thing. It doesn't say anywhere that we MUST get permission - so you couldn't very well force everyone to check "yes" in order to have a cache approved. At least not with the current set of rules. *shrug* Click To View The ToeCam