the pooks

Post deleted - I'm just confused

I've got October 15 in my mind, which gives it an 11 day jump.

I got the original info. Will forward it off-forum. John Gill have pretty much moved on from SA caching. Several of us have done maintenance (myself, Malo Mystery amongst others) on Da Vinci code as it is a bit of a Cape Town classic. Would be great if we can keep it going.

This starts venturing into the realms of "hard work" (putting in effort with no positive feedback). The return on investment gets too low. I would post a note on the cache page stating that I have re-enabled the cache with permission (so that others who read the logs may know it is up and running). If it is in a worthy spot (and a worthy cache) I would put in an adoption request and if there is still no response I will get the greener pastures process going with a SBA (should be archived - which alerts a reviewer). It often happens that cachers' interest/enthusiasm wanes - which is a perfectly natural thing. You neeed to do what you feel comfortable with.

I don't have the answer but it immediately made me think of "Riemvasmaak" - I think there is a place with such a name, and it probably has the same etymology. Interesting. Sounds like an outspan place - place with possibly water and trees were you can "outspan" the oxen by "maaking vas their rieme" - how's that for mixing languages...

and capedoc 500...

Largest bacon factory? Or was that Estcourt?

The book "Godel, Escher, Bach - an eternal golden braid" by Douglas Hofstadter is a fascinating book that had me thinking back in varsity days, when one is predisposed to thinking. It explores recursiveness (turning on itself) in mathematics (Godel), art (Escher) and music (Bach). It is quite fascinating how themes can express themselves in such diverse disciplines. The parallels between art and music is well known. Escher's mobius strip is discussed in that book. My signature line also comes from there - which is a literary example of Esher's endless drawings and Bach's music which returns on itself in a similar way.

I do not really take part in the FTF thing, but others in our area do. I have accompanied a cache owner on a tough hike to place a cache. I logged a find, but specifically stated that I accompanied the owner and even left the first page of the logbook open for the "official" FTF. This seemed to work well for all concerned - the FTF got his recognition and I logged it as a find. Everybody can (and does) understand the situation. Especially when it comes to the caches that involve a significant hike, a find tends to be more of a "I experienced this hike" than "I found the box and signed the log", so I don't see the point of having to redo the hike for the smiley. Caches placed for an event that will only be published after the event fall into a grey area - in that case the FTF will most likely be an event attendee, so as a non-attendee you will have to live with that fact. Breaking opening and closing times to be FTF is another dodgy area. I would say the FTF is legit, but the cache owner should probably make some effort to have it published at a time so that FTFs don't break rules - local knowledge of the caching scene should help in this case. If you do break into a compound to FTF, I suggest you don't tell the whole world about it - keep it to yourself - it is not something to be particularly proud of, unless you have a thick skin. These are just my personal interpretations, however I am aware that different people play the game differently, so although I do not necessarily play the way others do, I am mindful of the fact and do try to accomodate others if reasonably possible.

Wow this thread is buzzing lately! Just to confirm - still going ahead on Silverstream-Ledges this Sunday 6th March. Platteklip gorge parking 0730. At this stage it is the pooks, Dbob, capeccr, paddawan, hesamati that I know of. Please sms if you are coming so that i can contact you if plans change. Laurence 082 766 3807

I'm keen - not fussy re dates for now

We were looking at the Slingsby map while sitting in the cave and noticed it was shown a lot higher up. The contours lines are very close to each other in that area, so any small horizontal deviation relates to a big vertical deviation. I doubt Slingsby's sources would have really known much about the cave anyway - it is really quite little known. A Mountain Club expedition (reported in the 1958 MCSA journal) found buttons and various other items in this particular cave (they are on display at the MCSA club museum, don't know where that is though). See article by Mike Scott. In fact it is Charles Morisson mentioned in this article that took us to the cave. Having now done the route to the cave, it is not actually that hectic - only scrambling required - no rope stuff. Apparently the route Penny would have taken would be up the front of Kloof Corner and through the neck (at Kloof Corner Medium cache).

Pennys Cave was a wonderful adventure. A long hike (my brother got very tired by the time we descended Blinkwater ravine, so we took even longer, but at best it is a 6hr+ hike). After an initial slog to get to the rock bands, there was exciting scrambling up Cairn Ravine then traversing out of Cairn on steep bushy ledges around two butresses, more descending and slip sliding on hairy slopes to get to the Cave. Out of the cave on the right, up a steep bushy slope to a next level and then an exciting traverse on a ledge just below Traverse...Reverse cache and ending with a descent down Blinkwater. Lots of new territory. Very relieved that our guide knew his stuff.

Ding-a-ling! Your turn GEO

Having trouble finding a question - anyway...another abbreviation What does CAT stand for in a CAT-scan?

Different rates of sending and receiving data. Because we download much more data than upload, more of the capacity of the line is allocated to download hence downloading is normally much faster than uploading. That is what I understand about it. Someone else can offer a clearer explanation.

...when?..... Sorry - in the morning of Sun 6 March 2011 7.30am Platteklip Gorge parking. To be confirmed

I propose a hike in the morning. Silverstream-Ledges 7.30am if everything goes according to plan.

I'm gravitating towards a Silverstream-Ledges expedition but I need capeccr for moral backup (I make a lot of noise but he provides technical backup). Listing events is not my thing, so i will leave that to others. I'm thinking the weekend of the Argus has quite a nice ring to it (I mean - only 40000 people are riding bicycles, so what is the rest of Cape Town doing? - maybe we have the mountain to ourselves. Or we can do the hike beforehand and the event later...

thanks folks. zambeziboy (a long way from home...) has klapped 800. Busy here in the Western Cape...

Good idea 'Doc. I have been promoting these two hikes ever since I did them. Silverstream-Ledges is a lovely variation on the traditional ledges route. This one starts at Platteklip and then goes up Silverstream (a little to the left of Not For The Faint Hearted) and then a loooong traverse at about 850m contour all the way to Ledges (more or less above Newlands Ravine) with an exciting final pitch which is a bit hair raising (here we will incorporate capeccr and some rope for backup, although none of us needed the rope - we just used the rope to lift backpacks) before you pop out not too far from Maclears beacon. Hiddingh-Ascension-Carrel's Ledge starts in Newlands Forest, up Hidding, across and up a gully with stunning views and then up Ascension to pop out at the start of Carrels Ledge. Lots of lovely views of the city. It's a tough call to decide which to go for first. Silverstream-Ledges is a little fresher in my memory, but hopefully we will do both (not on the same day). Another favourite of mine is Spring buttress on the other side of the mountain (from the pipe track) All things considered I suggest Silverstream-Ledges as this is probably the route most of you have not experienced before Silverstream-Ledges Hiddingh-Ascension_Carrel's Ledge Cism on Spring Buttress

Think I have a MTB thing on 5th March

sounds like a kaapse klopse thing, but i have no idea

Favourites and other stuff... It's the day after Xmas, lazy and hot (Britons eat your hearts out), irrigation is under control (finally), the wine is good and so time to ponder about some things - like the "Favourites" feature. What do you think? In principle I am against any form of "Favouritism" as I feel Geocaching is the one activity where everyone has an opportunity to play the game the way they want. But like all activities, the more popular it gets, the more the need to apply rules. I decided that I would not make use of this new feature. I mean, what's wrong with reading the listing and the logs and then deciding on that basis whether a particular cache grabs your fancy or not? What happened to bookmark lists? And then there is the debate about whether the 1:10 "favourite":"finds" is the optimal ratio. So I avoided the issue for 1 day and succumbed. Went through the list of found caches. Ran out of "Favourites" before just before I got to the end of the list which suggests various things: 1. The ratio is quite spot on 2. I must enjoy the caches And then about the term: do you "favouritise" or "favour" a cache when you click that button. There is a little fuss about this on the UK forum. Although "favouritise" does technically not sound correct, it does do a better job of describing the specific activity of utilising this GC feature as opposed to some generic statement such as "Kate Winslet is my favourite actor" Then there is the topic of the new forum layout. Personally I don't think it improves anything. It does not add anything new (as far as I know) and looks more confusing than before, but then again I am notoriously resistant to change, so am willing to accept it is just me. Besides, it is not necessarily LESS confusing, and maybe a change is as good as a holiday. (This might sound critical, but actually the forum layout is and was pretty OK in my opinion). This might sound like the ramblings of a slightly bored individual, and if it does - it is!

It is unfortunate, ... Agreed. A "Question to answer" part of a multi-stage does not have proximity issues, so take finders to your historical point of interest and let them collect an answer that takes you to the final. Not ideal, but a workaround of sorts.