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I think it is just a reasonably experienced cacher who doesn't know how to log TBs properly.... they seemed to pick up a handful in 2019, sometimes logging correctly/grabbing, sometimes not, then dropped them without logging..... all the TBs I picked up had recent dealings with the same team.....

Hell, we just hid two free climbs higher than that! (and the FTF attempt fell out of the tree and wound up in hospital!) I'm an amateur technical tree climber, and feel *far* safer with ropes/harnesses at 15m up, than free climbing or up a ladder (they are killers too!) 5m....

Yep - and it didn't dawn on me until after I had noted it marked missing, looked at the logs and it was me who marked it missing - I initially just assumed it must have been in one of my caches, but no, it was my TB.... I had forgotten about it - it was a TB we found unactivated somewhere, so activated it and sent it off.

I'm assuming you were after something easier than 'print one out and manually enter into the other...' - You can do that, usually include a spiel in your (backdated) log that this is what you're doing.... Automatic methods.... I don't know. My first instinct is that you'll be out of luck on that one.

If you find one, be sure and tell the rest of us.... the only ones I have found are arborist types, not helpful to your recreational climber....

Yes, but rock climbers also do use static lines in situations where the rope isn't being used for fall arrest - abseiling/rapelling, climbing a fixed line.....

Sounds like a great idea to give your descender a weight/function check before taking the ascenders off....

https://coord.info/TB8PRAG An interesting one, of a seemingly short-lived TB.... we found it yesterday, and I had completely forgotten about it until I logged it in a group of dumped TBs we found in a cache, and wondered how I had marked it missing in 2019.... The cache we found had 6 random TBs, all either marked as missing or unaccounted for over the past 2-3 years.... a nice find really, they are all back in the game now....

We are gradually teaching ourselves single rope technique, using standard 10mm static line - our local climbing gym and 'climbing anchors dot com' have it for the same price. I've also bought arborist climbing ropes from treegear.com.au, they are good to deal with....

Sounds like an easy fix for the site developers then??

I always correct the coordinates of puzzles and multis etc on the website, then keep a current PQ in the GPS. At a new GZ, we can just check in the GPS for the closest cache, if >161m, all is good.... Of course multis can still be a problem, I do try and keep multi WPs in the GPS also, so can check for them too.... luckily multis with multiple physical WPs aren't common around us..... More ideal would be this supported by the website showing the corrected coords of course....

Yes. The website is useless to cache hiders. Cache hiders don't care where the bogus coordinates are (does anyone?). We're lucky that our GPSr's and apps like Cachly preserve the solved coords of puzzles/multis, so we can squeeze in more caches (for HQ...) Cachly even provides radii to indicate saturation zones....

My suspicion is that the average reviewer would look at an out of the blue NA from a zero find newbie, raise their eyebrows and move on.....

That's funny.... I can't say I can recall seeing a first log as a NA, but plenty of DNFs, where they are usually absolutely adamant that the cache is missing, or has been stolen, often whilst they are looking for a puzzle at the posted coords....

Bonding with my sons, making new friends, exploring our country (and yours). I do like the sense of responsibility it helps foster with my kids in maintaining their caches. When I look back through my photo library, I see mostly great times geocaching. I can't see myself ever wanting to stop, and hope my sons continue with me. Geocaching has introduced us into kayaking, camping, bushwalking, tree climbing and abseiling. In my work I see a lot of behaviourally challenged kids/teens, I've never seen one who was doing badly due to spending too much time in the bush with his/her Dad.....

Rain has destroyed more containers (logs) than anything I think. I rely on your points to keep our cache contents dry, and for the most part it works well. The most important thing IMO is layers - anywhere possible, have 2 waterproof containers nestled. I don't hang bison tubes anymore, but use a 3D-printed 'cocoon' hanger around the bison to shield it, and results have been great - we've had a *very* wet 2.5 years around here, and none of our doubled containers have had any water ingress. These compression/seal fitted polycarbonate containers are the closest thing I've seen to an ammo tin (maybe better for waterproofness) - this one was under a riverine flood not long ago, I suspect it had at least 2 metres of water over it for days. Our local hardward used to stock them for <$10 each, now they seem unavailable, I wish I had bought 50 of them! A video of the opening (10 seconds).... https://youtu.be/GT2y6eb9pu4

I'm in favour of bulletproof containers, but as far as fires go, all bets are off! I've found ammo tins with 'lightly singed' contents from brief grass fires/flashovers I guess, but if the fire gets established in a zone, you have charcoal contents.

This might be due to UV blocking properties of the pigment in the plastic base material....

Sounds like a good cache... I'd search for it.

I agree with this, and what niraD has above. If its a D3 gadget after a D1 find, its a D3 cache.....

I hope that isn't a long-series bit in the drill Jeff! You need a vice.... I still have a scar on my leg from the creation of GC9D932....

I note the anti-log-deletion-FP has been deployed.... nicely played!

We've put unactivated trackable tags and instant lottery tickets in ours before....

Definitely. We would have no choice but to quit as we would have exactly nothing to do.....

Arborist supplies, rock climbing supplies.... leave cheap Chinese Amazon stuff alone.... I actually did an online course with this place - it was educational - https://treeclimbing.com/ - they teach a doubled rope technique, which is cheaper to get into (literally can be done with just harness and rope), but IME slower and more tiring.... we've moved to various single rope technique (youtube has a wealth of info) and have started some abseiling courses (which use the same gear). Start small/low (repeat low) and practice....